Belarc showing KB2565063 and 5021953

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[Deo]

I installed the free Belarc on my PC in Dec showing same 2 bolded results as below, and I just updated Belarc to latest version today and these 2 are still there. I’m not sure what the below ‘important’ older kb’s and results mean? (PS I haven’t updated itunes yet, nor installed May updates, so those 2 are of no concern). My concern is with Belarc results:
kb2565063 & kb5021953.

This old Dell win 10 Pro, had a start from scratch reinstall by tech in 2021.I don’t have many programs installed: Macrium free,itunes(Apple), my non-Windows A/V, Imazing, Epson, and sundry Intel(Graphics, Rapid storage, Mgmt & security status). I uninstalled Dell support assist, Dell command update, and Firefox in 2022.
I use winshowhide.  I control updates via Group Policy setting ‘2’.

Neither of these KB’s show as having ever been installed in updates or via control panel;

So I wouldn’t know how to install them now? The above noted KB’s do NOT show up to “hide” nor “install”, nor anywhere else. What are they? Are they necessary? How to safely install if they are needed? Or just not, and dismiss? Discussions on here vary ie some say older Belarc results are included in later CU’s, some not. I think these are .NET & important?  TY:)

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KB2565063

KB5021953 2022-12 .NET Core 3.1.32 Security Update for x64 Client

You can skip both or you can run winget upgrade command and install missing updates

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Hi Deo

As Alex5723 noted, KB5021953 is a Microsoft .NET Core 3.1 update (released 13-Dec-2022) and KB5021953 appears to be the MS11-025 security update for the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable (released 09-Aug-2011). Belarc Advisor currently reports “All required security updates have been installed” on my Dell Inspiron / Win 10 Pro v22H2 machine (purchased 2019, reset to factory condition in 2020)  and these are the version numbers I currently see at Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features.

I don’t know what, if any, software I have on my Inspiron laptop that would need these old components (I do use an old version of Microsoft Money Plus Sunset Edition v17.x that hasn’t been supported for several years) but note that I’ve used both Macrium Reflect Free v7.x and v8.x on my computer and also have an Epson printer.  I uninstalled SupportAssist v3.x and most of the other Dell utilities that shipped with my computer and currently only use Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.x and My Dell v2.x.
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Further to Alex572’s suggestion to use winget to update your outdated applications, if you open an elevated command prompt with Administrator rights and enter winget upgrade it will list all your outdated software that can be updated with winget. I currently have three outdated applications that winget could update on my computer.

NOTE: This command won’t actually apply the updates – you will need a different winget command for that.

Go to Settings | Apps | Apps and Features and search for “winget”  to see if winget (also called Windows Package Manager Source) is installed on your Win 10 computer. If it isn’t, the first time you run a winget command in an elevated command prompt you will be asked permission to use winget on your computer. Just answer “Y” as shown in the  image below and your winget commands should run correctly after that.

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Hi Deo:

Sorry, I just noticed a typo in my 26-May-2024 post # 2675266.

The first paragraph should say:

“As Alex5723 noted, KB5021953 is a Microsoft .NET Core 3.1 update (released 13-Dec-2022) and KB2565063 appears to be the MS11-025 security update for the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable (released 09-Aug-2011) …”

I had the correct link but wrong KB number for the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable.
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lmacri wrote:

KB5021953 is a Microsoft .NET Core 3.1 update (released 13-Dec-2022) and KB5021953 appears to be

Bit confused with the following results and what they mean/what to do about them. I ran both dotnet –list-runtimes and installed winget (ty for instructions,as it wasn’t in my programs) and ran it:

I don’t know any other winget commands than what Imacri had posted. (Also,odd that Belarc shows needs update, though I updated it yesterday?)

Here is what is listed in my Control panel. It is odd that my .Net Core Runtime 3.1.28 shows updated June 2023, and Imacri’s shows updated to 3.1.32 in Dec 2022? Not sure why I didn’t get the update?

Perhaps it is bec I have “get updates for other Microsoft products” unchecked (so I don’t get drivers when I do my monthly updates). Wonder if I should ‘allow’ it this month with May updates? I have Group policy set to not allow drivers, but unsure if drivers will sneak through if I check “get updates for other…” 

As well, every month, I DO get Cumulative updates for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 and install them, so not sure why they aren’t listed under the dotnet command results?

If I “update” via winget, will it erase older C++ versions? I ask as I do know something on my system needs to have the older versions (either my A/V or an Itunes/Imazing program? Can’t recall which one) but I did accidently uninstall a old C++ version via control panel last year and chaos ensued).

Alex5723 wrote:

KB2565063

Does anyone know if I need kb2565063? Alex’s link to that showed a post from 2015 as a Service Pack 1, don’t know if it’s important or has been superceded. If important to have, how do I get that? It’s not listed in winget results? I have never used Microsoft Catalogue before.

Is kb5021953 related to the winget result above? In that, if I figure out some update winget command, will it be installing this kb? Appreciate help with this head scratcher;)

EDIT: Fwiw, I looked at this thread referred by Alex in AW beginning post 2660146

and ran winget list .NET Here’s my output:

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winget shows 4 visual c++ updates missing yet Belarc reports no missing updates.

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Alex5723 wrote:

winget shows 4 visual c++ updates missing yet Belarc reports no missing updates.

Hi Alex5723:

Belarc Advisor will only flag missing Windows / Microsoft updates that include a security patch for a vulnerability. The most likely explanation is that the newer MS Visual C++ Redistributable versions that winget detects for your system only include non-security feature changes.
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Deo wrote:

(Also,odd that Belarc shows needs update, though I updated it yesterday?)

Hi Deo:

The Belarc Advsor v9.0.0.0 you recently installed is over 5 years old. Update to the latest v12.1.0.0.0 and run another scan to see if it still reports that the KB2565063 security update is missing.

When you ran Belarc Advisor you were likely prompted to update the Belarc Advisor Security Definitions as shown below, not the actual Belarc Advisor program. To update Belarc Advisor download the latest installer (advisorinstaller.exe) from the official download page at https://www.belarc.com/products/belarc-advisor (they will email you a download link), save the .exe file  to your desktop, and then right-click and choose “Run as Administrator” to do an over-the-top update. The latest installer is also available from MajorGeeks at https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/belarc_advisor.html.

FYI, If I run a UCheck v5.x scan with winget scanning enabled (History & Settings | Scan Settings | Winget | ON) it reports my Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable v10.0.40219 (the same version you have) is the  latest version. I don’t trust UCheck or any other third-party software updater to actually install updates (erroneous detctions can sometimes recommend unwanted beta versions) but it’s a quick way to check for outdated software.

Deo wrote:

I don’t know any other winget commands than what Imacri had posted.

I’ve never used winget to update my software, but the MS support article upgrade command (winget). has some sample commands.  For example, the value for the ID column for your MS .NET Core Runtime v3.1.x is Microsoft.DotNet.Runtime.3_1 so the command …

winget upgrade --id Microsoft.DotNet.Runtime.3_1

… should update your MS .NET Core Runtime v3.1.28 to v3.1.32

Deo wrote:

I ran both dotnet –list-runtimes and installed winget …I DO get Cumulative updates for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 and install them, so not sure why they aren’t listed under the dotnet command results?

The commands dotnet –list-runtimes and dotnet –info will only display information about your .NET (Core) Runtimes. The command reg query “HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Net Framework Setup\NDP” /s will show information about your .NET Framworks. I use the ASoft .NET Version Detector utility to display information about both. HINT: You can click the Copy button at the bottom of this utility’s interface to copy and paste the output into a text editor like Noetpad to save it as a .txt file.

Deo wrote:

Here is what is listed in my Control panel. It is odd that my .Net Core Runtime 3.1.28 shows updated June 2023, and Imacri’s shows updated to 3.1.32 in Dec 2022? … Perhaps it is bec I have “get updates for other Microsoft products” unchecked (so I don’t get drivers when I do my monthly updates). Wonder if I should ‘allow’ it this month with May updates? I have Group policy set to not allow drivers, but unsure if drivers will sneak through if I check “get updates for other…”

I would suggst you turn ON your Windows Update setting at Advanced Options | Update Options | Receive updates for other Microsoft products.

I have that setting turned ON and my KB5021953 update for MS .NET Core v3.1.32 was installed on 19-Dec-2022 with my other Dec 2022 Patch Tusday Updates (see my 21-Dec-2022  post # 2509885). Turning that setting ON is not going to trigger Windows Update to deliver hardwar driver updates for non-Microsoft products (.g., Intel, Realtek, NVIDIA, etc.). Like you, I have Windows Update configured in my Win 10 Pro Local Group Policy Editor so it dos not offer driver updates (see Brink’s TenForums tutorial Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10) and Windows Update does not offer driver updates on my system.

Perhaps your MS .NET Core Runtime v3.1.28 was installed on 11-Jun-2023 because that was the version bundled inside an installer for a third-party software program you installed on that date. If you have software that requires a speecific MS .NET (Core) Runtime (e.g., like Dell SupportAssist v3.x, which requires MS .NET Runtime v6.0.x) and it isn’t already installed on your computer then the software installer will typically install the required .NET (Core) Runtime at the same time.

Deo wrote:

Does anyone know if I need kb2565063?

I wouldn’t bother for now, especially if you aren’t comfortable using winget.  At this point you don’t even know what software you still use, if any, that requires this MS .NET Core Runtime v3.1.x.

If you run a winget list (or winget list | sort) command to see a list of all your installed applications the value for the Source column for Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable should be “winget”, which confirms that winget supports this software.  NOTE: If the value for the Source column is blank / missing that means winget cannot be used to update that particular program.

Your Control Panel shows you and I both have the same Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable v10.0.40219 and your winget upgrade command is not finding an update for this program, so I’m not sure why Belarc Advisor thinks you are missing the KB2565063 security update.  The file list in the KB2565063 release notes shows the version number of some .dll files you should have if KB2565063 is installed (e.g., 10.0.40219.325), so if you’re still concerned you could use File Explorer to find those DLLs and see what versions you currently have.
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lmacri wrote:

I wouldn’t bother for now, especially if you aren’t comfortable using winget. At this point you don’t even know what software you still use, if any, that requires this MS .NET Core Runtime v3.1.x.

i Deo:

Sorry, another typo on my part.  That section should have said: “I wouldn’t bother for now, especially if you aren’t comfortable using winget. At this point you don’t even know what software you still use, if any, that requires this Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable.”

Every time I try to post a longer reply with multiple images in your thread it goes straight to to moderation and it’s too late to make edits by the time it’s approved by a Moderator.  I’ll have to be more careful about proofreading my replies before they’re submitted. _____________________

So basically, my advice is that you should update your MS .NET Core Runtime v3.1.x to v3.1.32 (which Windows Update might do for you if you turn ON your Windows Update setting at Advanced Options | Update Options | Receive updates for other Microsoft products) and don’t worry about the KB2565063 update Belarc Advisor recommends for Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable.  That advice might change if we can find more information about KB2565063, but as far as I know the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable v10.0.40219 we both have is the latest available version for this product, so I am assuming the security patch in KB2565063 (released 09-Aug-2011) should already be included in v10.0.40219.

Deo wrote:

Can’t recall which one) but I did accidently uninstall a old C++ version via control panel last year and chaos ensued).

Just a thought, but perhaps something you did last year has created a glitch (e.g., like a missing registry entry) that is causing Belarc Advisor to believe that KB2565063 is missing from your system.
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lmacri wrote:

Every time I try to post a longer reply with multiple images in your thread it goes straight to to moderation and it’s too late to make edits by the time it’s approved by a Moderator.  I’ll have to be more careful about proofreading my replies before they’re submitted.

That is very odd as my post don’t have any delay at all? Thx for mentioning, hope Mods chime in here. I have always rec’d your replies & posts. I find the site is acting weird lately.

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lmacri wrote:

(which Windows Update might do for you if you turn ON your Windows Update setting at Advanced Options | Update Options | Receive updates for other Microsoft products)

I updated May updates prior to recieving your advice @Imacri. No updates for kb5021593.

I updated Belarc, via major geeks to avoid ’email address’ prerequsite. Now on 12.1 with all its security updates installed. Still same results as OP! Both show ‘security updates’!

I searched via file explorer for anything to do with kb 2565063. Via C:/, I get file folders from 2011 in both x86 and x64?? I had this PC reinstalled 2022. What on earth.

I don’t know what to do anymore. This PC holds all my itunes backups and other important downloads from a court case that I will lose. And programs dependent on this PC ID name. AND the winshowhide hidden.

If I take it into shop for total reinstall of win 10 pro, I lose all my program licenses. Atop, I don’t have oddles of time to attend to this. Daily. Weekly. Monthly, Windows worries.  Sorry for venting, I just don’t know what to do. Limp along with what I have, forget? Or wipe whole device and start all OVER? That isn’t right. I also see, like me, many on the site unable to keep up with windows changes (thankful to many whom post and Susan for solutions).

PS I went back through other threads linked here – no mention of 2565063 nor 5021953. Yet like  Retired Geek, via MS catologue there are alot of files and dll’s. Any ideas? TY

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Deo wrote:

I updated May updates prior to recieving your advice @Imacri. No updates for kb5021593.

Regarding the 5021953 update for Microsoft .NET Core 3.1, did you try Alex5723’s suggestion and try using winget to update this app (see the command I posted in post # 2675549). If that doesn’t work did you try running the UCheck v5.x software updater I mentioned that same post with winget scanning enabled (History & Settings | Scan Settings | Winget | ON)  to see if it detects an available update for your Microsoft .NET Core 3.1 and / or MS Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable? See the attached image of what UCheck v5.4.0.0 finds today for my Win 10 v22H2 machine when I search my installed apps for “microsoft”.

Deo wrote:

I searched via file explorer for anything to do with kb 2565063. Via C:/, I get file folders from 2011 in both x86 and x64?? I had this PC reinstalled 2022. What on earth.

Regarding the KB2565063 for Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package Service Pack 1, the FAQ for Microsoft Security Bulletin MS11-025 at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security-updates/securitybulletins/2011/ms11-025 (which includes KB2565063 for Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package Service Pack 1 in the list of affected products) states in part that :

Why was this bulletin rereleased on April 21, 2011?

Microsoft rereleased this bulletin to reoffer the updates to address a known issue in which the updates were erroneously offered to Microsoft Windows 2000 systems, which are no longer in support. This is a detection change only. There were no changes to the security update files in this bulletin. Customers who have already successfully updated their systems do not need to reinstall this update.”

The system requirements for KB2565063 on the Microsoft Download site at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=26999 also says supported operating systems for this update are “Windows XP, Windows Server 2003 R2 x64 editions, Windows Vista Service Pack 2, Windows Server 2003 R2 (32-Bit x86), Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows 7” so I doubt KB2565063 would install on your Win 10 computer anyway.

As I said before, your Control Panel shows you and I both have the same Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable v10.0.40219 on our Win 10 v22H2 OSs (which UCheck tells me is the latest available version) and your winget upgrade command is not finding an update for this program, so in my opinion you can safely ignore Belarc Advisor’s advice to install the KB2565063 patch released in 2011.

If you’re still concerned then  .exe installers (last modified 04-Apr-2012) are available on the Microsoft Update Catalog at https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB2565063.  I have no idea if the installer would run correctly on your Win 10 machine, or what effect installing this patch might have on software installed on your computer that uses the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable.
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PS, could anyone tell me why, after sucessfully installing and running “winget” prior to updating to May updates, I suddenly get this?  ” Failed to upgrade winget…” TY

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Deo wrote:

after sucessfully installing and running “winget” prior to updating to May updates, I suddenly get this? ” Failed to upgrade winget…

What version of winget do you currently have and what date was it installed?

Go to Settings | Apps | Apps and Features , search for “winget”, and click the Advanced Options link for Windows Package Manager Source (winget). I currently have v2024.529.2410.106 that was just delivered yesterday on 29-May-2024, so I would suggest you just wait a few days to see if winget eventually self-updates.

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Hi Imacri et al,

This I what I have, after installing as per your instructions above. Comparing mine and yours, mine is way out of date?:

Note: I updated above (post coming next) and here is the “new output of winget upgrade command” showing no update neeeded”? Alas, what is in the first scrn shot here is what is on my PC, as of right now, regardless of next post with updates on the belarc & KB issues.

Am not sure why winget has not “updated” even though when running it, it no longer shows as outdated as per my previous post 2676417?

 

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Winget updated late last night! Windows Package Manager Source (winget) is now ver. 2024.602.1105.795 (see attached)

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A few updates to report:

On a happy note??:
Both KB 5021953 & KB2565063 finally surprisingly showed up in my winshowhide,  under the following conditions, which I was then able to ‘unhide’ & install:

1. Metered connections set to “Off” under Network>Ethernet>Metered connections>.
I then did the Matador ‘trick’ of “pause/resume”, both installed.
2. Checking/allowing  install other updates for Microsoft products with windows updates”

I am not sure why they needed downloading. (Am older Dell, x64). But it did?
New Belarc shows NO outstanding security updates:

And now Webview2 runtime is now out dated?:

The other weird thing when using winget to list:

My current Winget (aka ‘Windows Package Manager Source’, installed via @Imacri guidance above) is WAY outdated (Winget still shows old version in System>Apps & features, even though I just installed on May 29. I looked in Microsoft store, and there were no winget updates pending there.)
Yet when I ran admin command ‘winget update’ , it didn’t show that same pic as in my previous post.

Marking resolved for now, as it has been quite the journey. Still unresolved.Feedback welcome!

But know there is still a huge confusion (for me) over Net.Framework, Net Core, Net runtimes, .Net net net – so confusing! Are we to be programmers now?

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PS I ran the

lmacri wrote:

ASoft .NET Version Detector utility to display information about both. HINT: You can click the Copy button at the bottom of this utility’s interface to copy and paste the output into a text editor like Noetpad to save it as a .txt file

and it would NOT copy to my clip board (from either my admin nor user account) D/load from first link softpedis to thumb drive and ran. Here’s what I got- took screen shot):

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Deo wrote:

it would NOT copy to my clip board…Here’s what I got- took screen shot):

Hi Deo:

Sorry, I don’t know why the Copy button on your ASoft .NET Version Detector utility will not copy the report into your clipboard. You could try the download from Majorgeeks (https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/asoft_net_version_detector.html) but the Softpedia download has always worked for me. Just FYI, I’ve attached a sample .txt report I generated today that I pasted into Notepad so you can see what the output looks like.

I did notice your ASoft .NET Version Detector says you’re still on MS .NET Framework v4.8.0. Does this mean you’ve hidden the KB5011048 (Microsoft .NET Framework 4.8.1 for Windows 10 version 22H2) that Windows Update installed on my system with my October 2023 Patch Tuesday updates?

From the “Other Updates” section of my Windows Update history :

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Deo wrote:

And now Webview2 runtime is now out dated?:

Webview is part of Edge and the version numbers in you screen shot indicate Edge hasn’t been update to the new 125.0.2535.79 version released on 30 May.

Deo wrote:

If I “update” via winget, will it erase older C++ versions?

No!

I currently have 19 different Visual C++ packages installed on my Windows 10 22H2 system (v8.0.50727.4053 thru v14.38.33130.0) and whenever Winget indicates an update is available and I install it, it doesn’t delete any of the other versions.

BTW, the “easiest” way to ensure your Visual C++ packages are up-to-date to use the All-in-one installer from TechPowerup.

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

They regularly update the download to include the latest versions (current file is dated 27 May 2024).

You can either run the installer for the specific version of Visual C++ you need to update or you can use the install_all.bat to install/update all of them.

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n0ads wrote:

No!

Thank you for verifying all other visual C++ will not be overwritten! I don’t know what programs use/require such older versions, but will attempt to update via winget.

n0ads wrote:

Edge hasn’t been update to the new 125.0.2535.79 version

Edge was updated and on ver. 125.0.2535.79 as of June 1.

Runtime updated to same version (ver. 125.0.2535.79) as Edge this morning! Unsure why the delay, but it’s here now:)

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Deo wrote:

Both KB 5021953 & KB2565063 finally surprisingly showed up in my winshowhide, under the following conditions, which I was then able to ‘unhide’ & install:

Hi Deo:

I’m glad you discovered why Windows Update was not delivering updates KB5021953 (Microsoft .NET Core 3.1) and KB2565063 (Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable).  However, the obvious question remains – do you recall why you hid those security updates in the first place?

Deo wrote:

But know there is still a huge confusion (for me) over Net.Framework, Net Core, Net runtimes, .Net net net – so confusing!

From the Microsoft Learn article What is .NET Framework?, which states in part:

1. .NET Framework is the original implementation of .NET. It supports running websites, services, desktop apps, and more on Windows.
2. .NET is a cross-platform implementation for running websites, services, and console apps on Windows, Linux, and macOS. .NET is open source on GitHub. .NET was previously called .NET Core.

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Hi Imacri
The KB’s were NEVER present nor originally hidden in winshowhide!

They only showed up AFTER I had checkmarked/turned ON “recieve updates for other Microsoft products” in windows update setting Advanced>Options>Update Options as per your instructions (thank you!).
I then immediately ran winshowhide, suddenly saw both KB’s as available (yea!), and ‘hid’ them temporarily to check what other effects turning the above “other products” update settings would have on my system. And made another Macrium back up before installing.

Then I unhid them both, and allowed them to download & install.

Still don’t know why they were needed, or what software could be requiring them..

PS I ran winget list | sort
Not sure what Microsoft.UI.Xaml programs are? (see attached)

(And thank you so much for your patient sage help all along with all of this puzzle @Imacri! Happy to have had successful conclusion:)

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lmacri wrote:

I did notice your ASoft .NET Version Detector says you’re still on MS .NET Framework v4.8.0. Does this mean you’ve hidden the KB5011048 (Microsoft .NET Framework 4.8.1 for Windows 10 version 22H2) that Windows Update installed on my system with my October 2023 Patch Tuesday updates? From the “Other Updates” section of my Windows Update history

No KB5011048 anywhere.
No, they are not hidden in winshowhide…only these are hidden.

Nothing in “Other Updates” (Only thing in “other are kb890830’s). Here’s my update history from Oct..I am recieving Cumulative updates for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1.

Attached are my Asoft results (got copy button to work). See attached.

What is going on? What happened to my 4.8.1?

PS I did a repair ‘over the top’ reinstall in July 2023 fwiw, but all was fine (except for User Edge issues)

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Deo wrote:

No KB5011048 anywhere. No, they are not hidden in winshowhide…only these are hidden….

… Attached are my Asoft results (got copy button to work). See attached.What is going on? What happened to my 4.8.1?

Hi Deo:

The release notes for KB5038285 (Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2: May 14, 2024) show this May 2024 Patch Tuesday update actually installs either KB5037592 (Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 22H2) if you have MS .NET Framework v4.8.0 or KB5037587 (Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2) if you have updated to MS .NET Framework v4.8.1.

Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features | Installed Updates shows I received the KB5011048 (MS .NET Framework v4.8.1 Feature Pack) in October 2023 so  KB5037587 (Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2) was installed with my May 2024 Patch Tuesday updates.

Your Asoft .NET Version Detector report seems to confirm that you only have MS .NET Framework 4.8.0, so I assume you received KB5037592 (Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 22H2) with your May 2024 Patch Tuesday updates.

If that is correct see WCHS’s 21-Oct-2023 post # 2595947 about how their hidden KB5011048 (MS .NET Framework v4.8.1 Feature Pack) mysteriously disappeared from their WUShowHide queue, as well as my 21-Oct-2023 reply to WCHS in post # 2595986 about why KB5011048 is not a critical update.
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I should mention that I  use the  Local Group Policy Editor on my Win 10 Pro machine to set my Target Release Version (TRV) to Win 10 / Version 222 (TenForums tutorial <here>) and prevent Windows Update from offering updates for hardware drivers (TenForums tutorial <here>).  However, I don’t use WUShowHide, WUMgr, or any other tool to manage Windows Update. I just pause Windows Update a few days before each Patch Tuesday at Settings | Update & Security| Window Update | Advanced Options | Pause Updates | Pause Until (I normally pick a date at least 2 or 3 weeks after the Patch Tuesday date), wait a few days after Patch Tuesday until I’m sure there are no major problems with the monthly updates, and then unpause Windows Update at that same advanced setting and let Windows Update install all the updates it finds for my system.

I doubt it’s relevant to your qustion about your missing KB5011048 (MS .NET Framework v4.8.1 Feature Pack) , but the two updates you have hidden on your system, KB4023057 (Microsoft Update Health Tools — Windows Update Service components) and KB504441 (Windows Recovery Environment update for Windows 10 Version 22H2: January 9, 2024) both installed successfully on my system.
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Ran a few winget commands in case any results help.

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I was finally able to attend to the winget command updates. I checked today,  I was surprised that other older Visual C++ were not offered, but winget shows ‘up to date’.

AND thank you for your link to update Belarc! Amazing (as nefarious links seem to abound). Thx @Imacri , @Alex5723 , and @N0ads! Will now for future

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