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they go so far as to indicate that they probably won’t support it for the entire tax season (typically January through April 15th)

and non-typically through October 15th with extensions

That should give them enough time to be ready for the 2022 season!

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The concept of waiting a time for a new piece of critical software to become known, and bugs reported and worked out, is sound business practice.

That these things are happening on 6 month intervals (and from what I can see, Windows 11 is just 21H2 in the series) seems to be just too often. Business doesn’t actually NEED constant change from its operating system. In fact, it craves stability in its infrastructure so change in the business itself can be managed. It needs systems it can stop worrying about and get down to, well, business with them. It takes people time to figure out how best to use their tech. To get in a good groove.

Ask yourself these questions: Are you feeling MORE or LESS stress about your tech than you did 10 years ago? Do you worry MORE or LESS about security? Is your life MORE or LESS complicated? Do you have MORE or LESS control over what the devices you have surrounded yourself with are doing?

Who made a rule that says life has to get ever MORE complex and frantic? Why is that considered good?

-Noel

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Thank you for your post, I agree.
If I mange to achieve some goal (like deploying new Windows build) I have to do it again and again and again. And between those deployments I SHOULD be testing functionality. But I cant simply make it, because I dont have so much time, nor colleagues do. And believe me, often some functionality does not work. I cant be testing all functionalities of all software we use. And its not only about testing Windows, its about testing the third party software too – VEEAM backup, SAP, Office, AutoCAD, PolyWorks, Accumark, NiceLabel, … all mentioned software has its updates too and SHOULD be kept up to date.

Meanwhile, I should solve the problem about domain users unable to print, because Microsoft released fix for patching the previous patch? It takes a day at least to do it right. This is ridiculuos, and in IT there are less people that should be, especially with corona and moving lot of work to home office and hybrid work. Its shortage of staff, I think.

As a bonus, users are complaining, that their favourite app is missing, they are not sure how to use new Outlook UI, and if I left notebook in the cabinet for few months (for futher use in the future – VPN possibly for ill users), I must pay attention to that ntb for at least one hour, because there are 3 GB of updates missing before I give it to the user..

Therefore, I wont move to Windows 11 anytime soon, thus betatest it. Thanks, not interested.

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Disclaimer: I am not a small business owner and I don’t use proprietary business software.

Noel Carboni wrote:

Ask yourself these questions: Are you feeling MORE or LESS stress about your tech than you did 10 years ago?

Less.

Noel Carboni wrote:

Do you worry MORE or LESS about security?

Less.

Noel Carboni wrote:

Is your life MORE or LESS complicated?

Less.

Noel Carboni wrote:

Do you have MORE or LESS control over what the devices you have surrounded yourself with are doing?

More.  While I can understand that people who are trying to stay with Windows 7 can be a little stressed, trying NOT to get updated to Windows 10 while trying to keep Windows 7 updated.  I don’t have that burden.

While I can understand that people who are trying to block some Windows 10 updates while letting others through can be a little stressed, I don’t have that burden.

Does Microsoft “take liberties”?  Yes, but I can just as easily take them back.  Do Windows Updates constantly break my PC?  No, and in my view the reason is that I stay fully updated with everything Windows Update has to offer.

I use regular drive imaging as protection against things that go bump in the night (and my own tinkerin’), but I have yet to need to restore an image because of problems with a Windows Update.

I don’t have to duck/dodge/delay/limit Windows Updates, so that makes life quite simple.  I’m fully updated on security and features, while at the same time I am able to rip some of those “features” out by the roots if they get in my way.

In my view Windows 10 is a better, faster, more secure version of Windows 7.  Of course there are many who won’t agree, but they are, after all, “Personal Computers”.  Why does Microsoft do what they do?  Because we all agreed to their EULA, like it or not.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Why does Microsoft do what they do? Because we all agreed to their EULA, like it or not.

Nope.

Why does Microsoft do what they do?
Profit. Stock price appreciation. In a word… Money.

How does Microsoft get away with doing what they do?
Because we all agreed to their EULA, like it or not.

FTFY

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I’d prefer our business be eased into updates on a regular interval, rather than a whole lot of changes at once.

 

So yes, I do want frequent updates.

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Noel Carboni wrote:

Who made a rule that says life has to get ever MORE complex and frantic? Why is that considered good?

Not good!  Full stop!

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Noel Carboni wrote:
Who made a rule that says life has to get ever MORE complex and frantic? Why is that considered good?

I agree, but unfortunatelly, its a law of physics. The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system always increases. Entropy can be understood as clutter of the system.

In other words, if you put two shoelaces into your pocket, they will always come out tied up (tangled). If you put two tangled shoelaces into your pocket, they will come out even more tagled.

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doriel wrote:

Entropy can be understood as clutter of the system

Entropy is less energy/order in the system, potentially less clutter because things move less.

cheers, Paul

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Noel Carboni wrote:

(and from what I can see, Windows 11 is just 21H2 in the series)

No.

There will be 21H2 Enablement Package and a new Windows 11 released side-by-side.
21H2 will have the same kernel and updates like 2004-2009-21H1.

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Hm, OK, I wonder whether the code is unified and a run-time switch is being used to differentiate them, or if Windows 11 and the remnants of 10 are being built from two separate codebases/branches…

Have to say, I do like rounded corners on windows.

-Noel

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I liked round corners in XP too

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Noel Carboni wrote:

Have to say, I do like rounded corners on windows.

Cropping screenshots of windows with rounded corners is tedious. I prefer windows with corners for precision. Just an opinion. Another opinion is that it keeps MS UI designers in a job whilst adding nothing of value. Just moving goalposts fractionally to give the impression that they are busy… when the innovation pot is empty.

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