Lots of reports this morning about Outlook freezing on start. Quintalis on Reddit: Outlook immediately crashing on open after patching last night Even
[See the full post at: Bad Office Click-to-Run update blamed for Outlook freeze]
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Bad Office Click-to-Run update blamed for Outlook freeze
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AskWoody PlusJuly 15, 2020 at 12:52 pm #2280779Glad this was here, was able to use info to fix. See notification that MS has a new fix now.
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GuestJuly 15, 2020 at 1:33 pm #2280789I have the same issue as @flyingdutchgirl but atleast safe mode is working now, also Clicktorun still running and unable to terminate in taskmgr.exe
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AskWoody_MVPJuly 15, 2020 at 1:46 pm #2280806See Brandon reply here for a possible fix:
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ManagerJuly 15, 2020 at 2:04 pm #2280810Not seeing it here and I’m semi-annual NOT monthly.
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AskWoody LoungerJuly 15, 2020 at 2:43 pm #2280823Nearly everyone has been questioning Microsoft on their “quality control” with the monthly updates for a long time. And I do believe a press statement was released a few months ago from Microsoft stating that they would be improving the testing process.
I’d like to know how something like this new Outlook issue manages to get released if they have improved quality control with updates as they claim. It sounds like anyone on the monthly channel or who installed the new office updates have been affected. I don’t see how this could occur if there was testing involved before release.
Someone from Microsoft needs to step up and explain how this Outlook issue got past their “improved quality control”.
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AskWoody LoungerJuly 15, 2020 at 3:51 pm #2280852Hello, everyone. I too had a gut-wrenching half-hour of panic (i live on Outlook) until i found a Reddit thread that had this roll-back info. By the way, the problem seems to have affected more than Outlook. In my case, i have long been able to type in part of a file name … “budget” in my case … and Windows 10 Pro finds my latest budget spreadsheet. Hitting enter brings up the sheet in Excel. Before rolling back, hitting enter brought up Excel, but without the sheet opened.
Perhaps the underlying problem is that something has messed with the ability of the apps to parse input files on open? In my case, Outlook is governed by a .pst file (not .ost).
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AskWoody LoungerJuly 15, 2020 at 7:11 pm #2280892Hello. Nothing seems to have been pushed to me, so i decided to live dangerously and try to update it manually. I turned back on updates and went from Click-to-Fail 2006 (13001.20384) to Click-to-Run 2007 (13029.20200). Both Outlook and my ability to search for file names and bring them up in various Office apps has been restored. I guess they squashed whatever bug they introduced, but i’m darned if i know how they introduced it. I turn off auto updates, so it wasn’t on my side.
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AskWoody_MVPJuly 15, 2020 at 7:22 pm #2280896Perhaps this update is through the Microsoft Store? Precedent has been established.
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AskWoody PlusJuly 16, 2020 at 7:47 am #2281023Just an FYI that I currently have Win 10 Pro v1909 Build 18363.900 (June 2020 KB4560960, installed 09-Jul-2020) and my MS Outlook Home and Business 2019 C2R was still on the previous v2006 Build 13001.20266 (rel. 30-Jun-2020) when I was hit by this problem yesterday, so I don’t think it was the latest v2006 Build 13001.20384 (rel. 14-Jul-2020) that introduced the problem.
As flyingdutchgirl observed <above>, I discovered I was able to use Outlook 2019 in Safe Mode (Ctrl key + Outlook shortcut). A manual update to the latest Build 13001.20384 from Excel didn’t fix the problem, and the issue eventually resolved itself after a few frantic hours of troubleshooting.
I’m looking forward to reading the “post-incident report” mentioned in NetDef’s post <here> when it’s eventually published to see what actually caused this Outlook failure.
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64-bit Win 10 Pro v1909 build 18363.900 * MS Office Home and Business 2019 C2R v2006 Build 13001.20384anonymous
GuestJuly 15, 2020 at 5:19 pm #2280868Woody – can’t tell you my source but basically rumor is something was pushed server-side on Microsoft’s end in regards to a security or authentication change (who knows what specifically) and in that change it cut off communication with Outlook clients past a certain patch. I confirmed this was not last night’s patch that contained these changes, but one previously issued. I do not know anything more specific about this patch in question. This is why rolling back worked – it went to a client version that was before that change in how it talked to their servers. Why this was done in the middle of the day, I don’t know. Very unusual. All I’m willing to go into right now.
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AskWoody_MVPJuly 15, 2020 at 8:45 pm #2280909This fix was rolled out late afternoon today, and all Outlook clients should be able to start normally.
Admins: do not need to check for updates or re-apply updates. Just start Outlook. If you rolled back earlier today it’s safe to roll forward again to bring you back to current patched status.
The bug was a combination of a new security check on the client, and a back-end server patch/change. For now the back-end server change has been reverted for Office 365 Exchange tenants.
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AskWoody_MVPJuly 15, 2020 at 8:55 pm #2280915Ticket closed status message from Microsoft: (Listed times appear to be PDT)
Final status:
We’ve confirmed that the issue has been successfully resolved after extended monitoring of our telemetry. If users are continuing to see impact, please restart your Outlook client for the changes to take effect.
Scope of impact:
This issue may have potentially affected any of your users attempting to use Outlook.
Start time: Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 9:12 AM (3:12 PM UTC)
End time: Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 4:35 PM (10:35 PM UTC)
Root cause:
A recent change to the Outlook client inadvertently resulted in this issue.
Next steps:
– We’re reviewing our update procedures to isolate these issues prior to our deployment cycle.
– We’re analyzing our telemetry data to better identify these issues before they impact our customers. We’ll publish a post-incident report within five business days.
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AskWoody PlusJuly 15, 2020 at 8:54 pm #2280914It is disgusting that they do not test better than this.
This kind of stuff should never happen !!!
Glad I do not run my business like Microsoft although I would take all the money they rake in.
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AskWoody LoungerJuly 16, 2020 at 6:21 am #2281002Lots of reports this morning about Outlook freezing on start. Quintalis on Reddit: Outlook immediately crashing on open after patching last night Even
[See the full post at: Bad Office Click-to-Run update blamed for Outlook freeze]Woody,
Just my 2 cents worth. I have had no problems with this, yesterday or today. Maybe just a Win 10 problem?? Running Win 7 HP x64 SP1.
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AskWoody LoungerJuly 16, 2020 at 8:28 am #2281030ToddMeister
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AskWoody LoungerJuly 20, 2020 at 3:11 pm #2281991Just thought I’d add that we didn’t see any problems with Outlook 2016 MSI on our isolated systems (v1809), nor did I see it on my home laptop (v1909) which is running Office 2016 C2R. Obviously our isolated systems never get to “phone home” to MS, so probably why it wasn’t bothered.
Ditto for my home laptop. I have it locked down so no updates get applied unless I want to have updates run. I use the metered connection and also double-down by locking out updates through the registry.
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