ARM is really important for Windows 11

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WINDOWS 11 By Mary Branscombe Microsoft is pushing people to Windows 11 to get AI features. Today, that means Windows 11 on ARM — even though the AI i
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Where does tradotopma; desktop computers fit into this new picture. I want to replace my aging windows 11 pc with something that akin to an ai-pc. I have not heard any discussion on this topic. What do see comming for me.

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there will be desktop PCs with NPUs: at the very least, they will be sold for developers and there are already a couple of Arm+NPU NUC format devices for developers; if there’s a market for a desktop with the specs for it, it will absolutely work. But so far, the Copilot+ branding is just on laptops (and the Qualcomm chipset that qualifies for Copilot+ is optimised for laptops).

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Yet another reason to shift to *nix PC’s. I want personal control of my PC, not Microsoft AI control of it. And not everyone buys new PCs every year, as this article seem to imply. At my previous work place I could get a new one every 4th year, as a private user I want it to last as long as possible with proper support against security threats. It seems Microsoft Windows is becoming less and less the place to be as a private person.

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This is the first time I’ve been exited about ARM. It has a long history but has always been meh. But this new batch is exciting. It’s time has come

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I have the original Surface Pro X and the second generation Pro X and I absolutely love them because the battery goes for *ever*. I have and like the ThinkPad Arm model and I would like it a lot more if I didn’t have to use Windows 11 on it. But the Copilot+ Arm device I’ve used is definitely faster and better battery than any of them.

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I am reminded of the “revolution” in computing instigated by RISC processors running the UNIX operating system on “work stations” … back in the late 80’s and 90’s. It did in DEC “mini computers” and turned Apple and Widows into the kings of desktop/private computing.

I lost track of RISK systems when I transferred to Windows running on Intel processors. How does ARM fit into this picture, if at all?

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ARM originally stood for ‘Acorn RISC Machine’ because it came out of the RISC work done by Acorn for the Archimedes; that went to Intel as StrongARM and they did work towards what Apple wanted out of a mobile RISC processor. Fast forward through a few business manoeuvres and a LOT of technology development and you have today’s Arm, which isn’t an acronym any more but did at one point stand for ‘Advanced RISC Machines’.

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Amy Babinchak wrote:

It has a long history but has always been meh.

It was never, and still isn’t, meh on Apple devices.

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the real question is when will microsoft release active directory tools for users and computers in windows 11 arm and when can you then add those tools into powershell.

I am testing a Dell Latitude 7455 and so far all is working except that and 3 other items we use.  If Microsoft and vendors will step up and port to windows arm, then this is a good thing.  so far the support is working well both ARM native versions or std x64 versions are running extremely well even our 20+ year old ERP system installs and runs correctly..

Give us RSAT tools and Powershell AD and then other vendors fixing a few things and then this is a real winner, way better that the first round, this could be a serious contender.  I am working on it now and I am very impressed.

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Frustratingly, RSAT is in maintenance mode and Microsoft suggests using Windows Admin Center instead; being Web based, that works fine from Arm systems. If you need things in RSAT that aren’t in WAC, I’d suggest raising them in this thread and if you have an enterprise agreement, you could try the App Assure route because this is one of the continuing gaps on Arm. One user over on Reddit claims to have got it running on Arm manually, so that might be something to experiment with?

 

 

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