Are there any NEW operating systems on the horizon?

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Windows OSs crash and have too many other problems. Apple is too proprietary and non-upgradeable. Linux is too much like DOS (the last time I used DOS was 1994) and, without a Windows-like GUI, is too unwieldy for my tastes.

I would gladly dump all my Windows-based software for a new OS without all the problems of the above three mentioned OSs.

SO, does anyone know of any New OSs in the works and how soon they would be available???

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Kaspersky is said to be in the process of developing one.

MorphOS

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Windows OSs crash and have too many other problems. Apple is too proprietary and non-upgradeable. Linux is too much like DOS (the last time I used DOS was 1994) and, without a Windows-like GUI, is too unwieldy for my tastes.

I would gladly dump all my Windows-based software for a new OS without all the problems of the above three mentioned OSs.

SO, does anyone know of any New OSs in the works and how soon they would be available???

The way most new OSes get started is from someone like you not finding what they want, so they write their own. Or grab a Linux build and add to it until it does what you want.There are many of these out there already, some with very nice GUIs.

Here are just a few built on “Ubuntu” An internet search will reveal many more to use or to begin with and build on.

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The way most new OSes get started is from someone like you not finding what they want, so they write their own. Or grab a Linux build and add to it until it does what you want.There are many of these out there already, some with very nice GUIs.

Here are just a few built on “Ubuntu” An internet search will reveal many more to use or to begin with and build on.

“Raring Ringtail” is the code name for Ubuntu 13.04, scheduled for release on 25 April 2013

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Linux is too much like DOS (the last time I used DOS was 1994) and, without a Windows-like GUI, is too unwieldy for my tastes.

Seems to me that it’s a long time since you used Linux, too! About all you get in most distros that looks like DOS is a Terminal Session, and you get GUIs in distros all the way from Puppy Linux to Debian, stopping off at Ubuntu, Fedora and Mint. For example look at the quite good Cinnamon desktop GUI in the latest Mint 1.3, which you can run from a so-called Live CD or put onto a bootable USB Flash Drive, so you don’t even need to install it on a hard disk to try it!

BATcher

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It hasn’t been that long. What I object to is using command-line interface for fixes and updates. Is there a Windows-type GUI version that totally acts like Window (minus all the crashes)??? I left the use of DOS long ago, and do not like to have to revert to it or any command-line versions–period.

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The short answer to your question is NO

Maybe you ought to focus on WHY you are having so many crashes, instead of looking for a new operating system TO crash.

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Sometimes the Command Line interface is the best way to go to run programs or solve problems. I wouldn’t have chosen my username if I didn’t believe this!

BATcher

Plethora means a lot to me.

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I can’t remember the last time I had a serious crash in Windows, at home or work, and I see a lot of Windows machines. Sometimes I see software crash in Windows, but not from Windows.

cheers, Paul

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My experience, expecially with Win 7 is the same as Paul T … most crashes are not caused by Windows, but software using windows, or the operator.

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Have you tried reactos.com? It’s goal is to be binary compatible with WinNT versions through at least Windows XP – still in alpha (last time I looked) and it is donationware. I support it because I want alternatives to Linux and Windows OS’s – and BeOS hasn’t seemed to be particularly viable at this point.

Of course, if DOS is your pleasure, FreeDOS is always an option.

-Russ

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Which Windows have you used? Have you tried Windows 7? You have to work at it to get Win7 to crash more than rarely.

If you’re still using WinXP or earlier, then there’s more likelihood of crashes, plus more software which won’t work well or at all with it. And any of the Win9X versions are going to crash daily for a ‘normal’ user–due to mass infections if nothing else.

Give Win7 a shot, and read a couple of ‘How to setup…’ articles here or around for the best approach for your needs. Add a 24/7 real-time security app like MSE to reduce your exposure to bad stuff. The only way that’ll crash much is via poor user practices or poorly written 3rd-party software.

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WIN7 64 is the BIG pain! I have been using Windows since 98SE. WIN XP PRO has been the most stable of them all. Even a repair-install is easier in XP than in WIN7. WIN7 is causing all the crashes. The causes it reports include some of which I have never heard before (and there have been way too many). WIN7 always blames my hardware when it crashes, but when it works, no hardware problems are ever reported!!! My computer never over-heats, I do all the re-seats just in case, I do regular dust clean-outs, and I keep all the drivers up to date. All Windows Updates are current. I use Avast! Free, MBAM Pro, CCleaner, WinOptimizer7, jv16 Power Tools, and Windows Defender. I use their Real-Time modes (where available) and scan with them every day.

I use Acronis T.I. to image my system everyday. It is easier to use the Rescue Disk to restore my system than going thru all the vain attempts of using Windows Repair. Every time WR checks for problems (after taking forever to load, in my opinion) it states that the problem “will” be fixed when found. When found, it then states that it is “attempting” repairs. After failing to repair, it states that the problem cannot be repaired automatically. The exact problem is never specified.

Microsoft’s generic answers to specific error messages never work for me. What good does it do to send crash reports, when they have no intention to address specific problems? Even when an error message (mostly from update problems) is addressed, their solution never works. Their Community Forums will never supply a definitive answer to a specific problem because no two computer systems are exactly alike. You would think that MS would use its billions and vast manpower to investigate all possible problems and find their solutions. But NO, all they care about is enriching themselves!!! After all, the vast majority are enslaved to their OSs. And the other OS providers are no different (Apple requires use of their proprietary equipment).

So, what can we do??? We are caught between a rock and a hard place!!!

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I use Avast! Free, MBAM Pro, CCleaner, WinOptimizer7, jv16 Power Tools, and Windows Defender. I use their Real-Time modes (where available) and scan with them every day.

As 3rd party softwares are the single biggest cause of BSOD’s/crashes in Vista/7, it’s no great surprise to me that you have problems – the 3 bold softwares above have Registry ‘cleaners’, don’t they? Snake oil if used without carefully checking and choosing what’s actually safe to ‘clean’ and having a known good backup (created before any Registry tampering) to fall back on.

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Honestly, I rarely boot Windows anymore (I use Linux day to day at home) but I’m not here to convert you. I’m here to echo what others have already told you. Windows 7 is solid. I use it at work, and I very occasionally use it at home, and I have never had a crash from it.

You should be looking elsewhere for the cause of your problem, not at Windows (as much as I hate to admit it).

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I strongly suggest you download (totally FREE) Linux Mint 13-MATE, live CD, and boot from it. I believe you’ll br amazed. I’ve toyed slightly with many different distros of Linux over about 10 years, and in the past three months use Mint almost exclusively, while dual booting with Win7. Bear in mind, that it also offers over 31,000 FREE programs.

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I re-built HAL(9000):p less than two and a half years ago. I have Catalyst 12-8 64bit installed. The Registry Cleaners are used judiciously (I am not a newbie in this matter). I did just disable the WMP Sharing in Services, so time will tell if that was the problem. My other Post on software vs hardware still stands. I have had problems resulting from Windows and other Software updates that required undoing or waiting for updates to fix the previous updates.

The biggest problem at the moment is Shutting Down/Sleeping/Hibernating. Even Screen Saver does not work, tho I have it set to come on after 10 minutes. I have adjusted the Power Plan to allow these and then not allow these, and the results are always the same–they don’t work as advertised!!! I have followed advice on this and other Forums on setting up the Power Options, yet none of it works for me. Worse, if I can get some sort of shut down (and I am not certain as to the type), every effort to restart eventually results in a BSOD, requiring an image reinstall. The strange thing is that my backup computer, which uses a dual-boot of XP and WIN7, allows Screen Saver to work and enters Sleep or Hibernation Mode as programed with no problem. Do you blame this problem on the hardware or the software?:confused:

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Hammondmike,

Just occurred to me in reading over your messages; if Ubuntu is forcing you to do a command line interface to boot up / install, and Windows 7-64 is having the kinds of problems that you are having, then it might be a video driver problem that you’re facing.

Obviously I don’t know what your hardware is, but if you have a mobo with on-board video, or alternatively a second video card, I would switch video, and see what the heck is going on with the driver. Most will run (badly) in VESA mode, but those native VESA drivers from microsoft while slow are solid.

I’d be real curious to see what happens – ’cause if you have a laptop/notebook there may be no other option than doing the RAM check.

There are some Windows Software driver utilities out there, and the better ones (Download.com) will also indicate that there are multiple drivers available – I’d try switching drivers if all else fails.

Good Luck!

-Russ

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I missed this follow up when I wrote my original reply.. Heh.. Perhaps it is possible that your original post wasn’t made in jest 😀

WIN7 64 is the BIG pain! {…snip…} and I keep all the drivers up to date. All Windows Updates are current. I use Avast! Free, MBAM Pro, CCleaner, WinOptimizer7, jv16 Power Tools, and Windows Defender. I use their Real-Time modes (where available) and scan with them every day.

If I may suggest one possibility.. you may in fact be “over maintaining” your operating system and causing yourself grief as a result.

You’re frequently using tools (Ccleaner, WinOptimizer, jv16 Powertools) that all mess around with the Windows Registry. Doing that on such a regular basis (unless you are certain you know what you’re doing) can cause absolute havoc with an operating system. Even more so when you frequently use multiple tools designed to “fix” the registry. Such tools should really only be used when specific problems need to be addressed in my opinion.

Using more than one tool (3 in your case) to address the same thing can compound the possible problems no end. Ever wondered why you can run CCleaner in it’s default configuration to clean your registry and when you finally get a totally healthy result out of it, you run jv16 Powertools and it finds a whole host of problems CCleaner missed? Which one is right and which one is wrong?

Anyway, that’s definitely one reason I think you may be having so many problems with Windows 7.

Another is keeping “all the drivers up to date” – the latest is not necessarily the greatest. The old adage of if it’s not broken, don’t fix it applies here in spades. Unless there is some pressing security issue with the drivers you’re already using, or features you desperately need to take advantage of that only newer drivers will provide, I’d strongly suggest just leaving your drivers alone. I wouldn’t be updating them just because a newer version was available. Look into what the newer version of the driver you want to update addresses before you make a decision to install it..

On the other hand, if you use software to automatically keep your drivers up to date, I’d be getting rid of it. More on why below.

Over the years, I’ve struck many occasions where problematic systems [BSOD’s in particular] were easily fixed by simply reverting back to prior driver versions. Now that’s just from my own experiences, but as a result, in MY opinion, the vast majority of those automatic driver up-daters could easily be classed as a form of Malware because they can often cause more problems than they solve or supposedly prevent!

[ Apologies in advance to Fred Langa, a person I’ve read and hold in the highest respect since holding a paid subscription to his Langalist newsletter several years ago before he merged with Windows Secrets. Unless my memory fails me, Fred advocated and even encouraged using driver version update checking software in a recent article – Sorry Fred, on that topic I couldn’t disagree with you more, but I guess we can’t agree on everything :p ]

it states that the problem “will” be fixed when found. When found, it then states that it is “attempting” repairs. After failing to repair, it states that the problem cannot be repaired automatically. The exact problem is never specified.

With all of the “maintenance” you say you do so frequently, I’d start keeping a running journal (in the form of a spreadsheet perhaps) of all the changes I made to the system (or changes made by tools like jv16 and WinOptimizer etc) if I were you and reverse those changes as a starting point to fix any problems that suddenly popped up for no apparent reason.

You would think that MS would use its billions and vast manpower to investigate all possible problems and find their solutions. But NO, all they care about is enriching themselves!!!

Here you must be kidding surely? lol.. Yes, I’ve no doubt that Microsoft’s biggest priority is how to increase its profit margin – the user will always come second. Welcome to the business corporate sector. :o:

So, what can we do??? We are caught between a rock and a hard place!!!

Well.. In a word, unless you code your own flawless operating system, then yes. 🙂

Cheers..

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HOLD THE PHONE!!!

Just learned that MS is working on a totally NEW OS called “Midori”. The programing uses C#.

The implications are–MIND BOGGLING!!!

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Have you tried PCLINUXOS? I use it more than Windows and have been doing so for several years. I find it very “windows like” and it has a pretty user friendly GUI including “tools” for setting up and fixing things. It may not be quite as GUI oriented as Win, but for everyday use, it works great. And, it’s fast. I am very command line handicapped, but if I run into problems there are a lot of friendly helpful folks on user forums that I call on. It is much less crash prone and almost (not quite) virus proof. If you want to try it you can download the OS, put it onto a CD or flash drive and run it from that without disturbing your Win install. I will run slowly that way, but you can get a feel for it. BTW, Firefox comes with it as its standard browser.

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I’m not sure just what your problem is. I’ve been using Windows 7 64 bit on my Acer laptop computer with no crashes for over a year. I’m using XP SP3 on my HP desktop for about five years and had several freezes, two of which were cured by removing the built-up dust from my fan. I also restart my desktop computer at least once a week as it seems to slow down otherwise.

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Hammondmike,
it sounds like you definitely have some issues with Win7.

Have you taken the time to download any linux distribution and test out a LIVE CD, where you simply boot to the cd, and it will run the distribution in Memory?
Ubuntu will do this.
That gives you the opportunity to at least see that Install and Updates are NOT command line anymore. You are not forced to Command line at all in Ubuntu, if you don’t want to.
Honestly though, your description of issues and combination of Programs you run every day make it very difficult to pinpoint your Crashes. (It could be your Registry cleaners, cleaning badly, or it could be bad Memory, or bad harddrive, obviously lots of variables, and you didn’t ask for help or advice on your system)

It sounds to me like your hardware may have issues, so even running a LiveCD may show some problems which might help you pinpoint your issues which might help you get appropriate fixes if you want to keep Win 7.

Keep in mind, running Ubuntu or any linux distro in Memory will not be as fast as when installed on harddrive, but it will at least give you a taste of what you can do, and see if you like it.

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Has Fred just identified your problem?

https://windowssecrets.com/langalist-plus/bsods-from-an-unexpected-source-wmp-service/

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It’s difficult to say, we could use more information on your specific hardware and software environment.

The use of the Windows 7 Event Viewer …and

Troubleshoot sleep and shut down issues in Windows 7 …and
Have you performed a repair install or a clean install recently.

The strange thing is that my backup computer, which uses a dual-boot of XP and WIN7, allows Screen Saver to work and enters Sleep or Hibernation Mode as programed with no problem. Do you blame this problem on the hardware or the software?

Home built computers require a considerable amount of research before hand in order to work out all the potential compatibility
issues that can arise. Much more information, action, and investigation is required on your part.

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Windows OSs crash and have too many other problems. Apple is too proprietary and non-upgradeable. Linux is too much like DOS (the last time I used DOS was 1994) and, without a Windows-like GUI, is too unwieldy for my tastes.

I would gladly dump all my Windows-based software for a new OS without all the problems of the above three mentioned OSs.

Short answer – no, not that I’m aware of. To expand on that though..

You’re going to be struggling if you’re going to insist on a “Windows-like GUI” along with the mountains of software support it enjoys, yet in the same breath claim that you don’t like Linux or DOS.

It all depends on what your needs are. There’s a couple of alternate early multitasking solutions I still occasionally have a play with (namely OS/2 and DesQview) that I keep running on a couple of old 386 machines at home, but that’s purely for some occasional nostalgic fun and neither (to my knowledge anyway) are still supported in any meaningful way and I can assure you that neither are without their own unique problems. I’m not even sure you could still buy them (?)

Both Windows XP and Windows 7 are about as rock solid an operating system as you’re going to get and are still serving the majority of the home and business computing communities around the world. (Forget about Windows 8 – it’s just been released so still in its infancy and riddled with all types of problems) Putting Apple Macintosh as a solution aside (also solid in so far as OS stability goes) as you’ve also dismissed that option, then I’d say you’re in between a rock and a hard place.

I’d have to agree with CLiNT’s comments.. If I were you, I’d be looking as to “why” your Windows OS’s crash so often and what the cause of all those “many other problems” you speak of is, rather than hoping for an operating system you’ll have zero problems with. Due to the many variables and different requirements folks have, the fact is that what you’re looking for simply doesn’t exist and nor will it ever in my opinion.

Actually as I write this, I wonder if you’re not just having a bit of fun in starting a thread like this just to see what sort of reaction you would get ? If I’m close to the mark on that one, then congrats on getting me in for a few minutes too! :rolleyes:

Cheers..

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What about Google’s Chrome OS, as used in Chromebooks?

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Google Chrome OS is still in Beta!!! They are adding Aura to liven it up, but it is still a work in progress.

I just installed the Chrome Browser on my new cell phone. Chrome no longer supports Flash, and I use many Web Sites that use Flash for various displays (weather radar, tutorials, etc.). Unless the people at Google have an epiphany, I won’t be using the Chrome OS on my desktop any time soon.

I guess I will have to wait on “Midori”.

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Google Chrome OS is still in Beta![/quote]
Are you sure? Looking at http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Chrome%20OS it would appear that there’s a stable channel and a beta channel, in the same way as Firefox has a release channel and a beta channel. I’m no expert though and I might have misunderstood the situation.

Chrome no longer supports Flash

I’m not disputing that statement on phones and tablets, but it might just be worth pointing out the Google Chrome browser on traditional computers still has Adobe Flash Player built-in.

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Careful reading of the blog site shows the development and stable versions apply only to Chromebooks. There does not exist a desktop version of the Chrome OS.

You are correct about the desktop browser still supporting Flash Player. All other versions support HTML5 only, which will be a pain until all Websites switch from Flash to HTML5.:(

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I wouldn’t hold your breath when it comes to “Midori”, it’s been a “skunkworks” research & development project for many years now.
You’d be far better off trying to figure out how & why your hardware and software environment is crashing Windows 7.

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I run Win7 and have very few crashes. The few that have happened were beauts though. I’m reading (I think) a general interest in leaving MS behind if it can be done without ending up in a frustrating backwater.
Ninety pecent of usage is browsers and Office apps. This lends to Linux or Chrome quite easily. I’m uncomfortable with Chrome because of reliance on the cloud. Sorry, I don’t trust OP with my security and a possible “wild hair” to lock me out, snoop or delete my files.
That leaves us with Linux. I’ve built dual boots with Ubuntu as well as using a Live Disk of Linux. It’s been a few years now but (and I’m reading between the lines from the posters here) I absolutely hate having to tar or use any other CL with a boatload of arguments to make a device work properly. We have been using very capable Wizards for many years and I don’t need a test of my masculinity or geekiness by writing a long context sensitive command to try and get a driver. When I read Linux hackers posts that some of the special qualities of Linux are the power of the CL I want to get sick.
I grew up System7 and BSD. I think I can find my way around this. I don’t want to. I’m not running an 8086 processor and I don’t want my OS to feel like DOS 3.0 either.
When I can get my apps working (main concern Quicken) and feel that I can get all my drivers (mainly printers and wifi devices) up easily it will be a pleasure to wave off Steve Ballmer. My love affair there died after Win2000.

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