Acronis True Image 9.0 version 2323 update

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Acronis has issued a new update for version 9.0 (build 2323).

Better read the following thread BEFORE updating: Installation Issues, etc. for build 2323.

Jeff

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Hi Jeff,
Yes the new build did fix a number of things and I do see a couple of my suggestions in the new build.
2323 does have an issue with the install feature, so just UN install the old build before installing the new one.

I think the biggest issue yet to be resolved is the 4G file problem. Acronis is working to resolve that. I personally don’t have any files that large to image so it doesn’t bother me and probably not most other users.

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2323 caused a disaster for me.

See http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread/?t=109976%5B/url%5D.

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Hi Jeff,
Being a confirmed MUASN (Must Update All Software NOW) addict I’m trying to hold the line and waiting a week before upgrading my setup . Guess I’ll let the dust settle before – and might even see another upgrade by then.
Later
Bob (the other one)

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Yeah, me too. I don’t know why I’m the only one here in The Lounge who can’t seem to get selected file restores to work, but after reading a number of the threads in the above forums, there ARE others who have the problem, including this most recent build. I too shall bide my time…

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is this program that good that so many loungesr use it?? what do you use this for? just to back files up?

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(Edited by skitterbug on 08-Dec-05 08:42. Decided to add a bit more to my post!)

Oh my goodness – yesssss, it is that good!! It can be a lifesaver for restoring precious files! There are lots of posts about it to read!!!
I should add that this program works for me and I am not an authority on it. But I have restored my hard drive from my back up using version 8. I haven’t had any problems serious enough since then to use it although I have kept up with the updates until this last one. I am waiting to see what everyone decides about it.

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yeah i’ve read all the posts on it, including the one in the official forum posted here earlier… i’m wondering if i should use it. do you have a dedicated backup hard drive? internal or external?

actually… i guess it doesn’t matter, with the invention of the external enclosures, internal can easily become external! i just ordered a dvd burner & external drive earlier this week.. looking foward to trying it out. maybe i should consider doing the same with a hard drive……….

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I make an image in the 650MB size and then burn them to disk. I haven’t ever tried burning to DVD. I also have backups made to my external hard drive! I figure if worse comes to worse, I can reload the O/S and then restore my previous set-up exactly the way I had it before a hard drive mess up.

We always backed up the server to a tape drive and had to use it off and on to recover whatever needed to be recovered but that wasn’t an option for home use. So I started with this product because of the positive remarks in the Lounge. I’ve been happy with it, but as Al said, there are other products now that may also suit an individual’s needs. For simple back up of documents, I use the program that came with my external hard drive. Its called Bounceback Professional (I had to purchase the upgrade to get the full program since only Bounceback Lite came with the External HD.) I like the fact that I can get to individual files easily with it. I haven’t experimented with Acronis since it has implemented this capability. Maybe in January when life slows down a bit, I will. And that’s my

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I have an external 120 Gb firewire drive that I image to. That’s all it’s for and it works quite well.

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It my understanding that version 8 was fine.

It seems that version 9 was a premature release, not uncommon in the software industry.

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Imaging backup programs became popular “several” years ago as hard drive prices descended and folks became more and more unhappy with tape, etc. The only ones I’ve used have been Ghost, Drive Image and now TrueImage. There are others. Imaging is probably the quickest way to restore a blown system, sometimes taking only “minutes” to do, excluding hardware replacement of course. Imaging started out as just that – a complete, bit-by-bit image of an entire drive, take it or leave it. It’s only been in more recent iterations that individual files have been (possible) to recover (or backup).

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is it worth backing up the entire system? (in my case, it would be a 20GB partition)

i would need a dedicated drive to hold that information… and i guess i would set it to run once a week? or every night? have you actually used it to restore a system? does it work well when restoring?

i’m just trying to justify purchasing the software (and hardware) to myself. how do you have it set up? external drive that backs up every night or so?

can you run a backup server that backs up all of your computers in your house?

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Oh yeah, John, yes to all of the above. All ya gotta do is search the Lounge for TrueImage or DriveImage (with or without spaces ) to see how many of us have had our “bacon saved” by an image backup. I personally do my imaging once a week, but I also don’t use scheduling, prefer to do it manually when I’m ready. How frequently is a matter of preference. As you will see if you do search, some of us use other software to backup daily critical files each night and imaging to do the whole shebang every xx days.

I’m serious when I tell you that with both of the above programs, I’ve made hundreds and hundreds of full drive restorations and could count on the fingers of LESS than one hand how many times I’ve had problems. There’s no accounting for how “minor” the cost of the software is for this task! Personally, I use removable IDE drives, mounted in racks but many other Loungers use USB external drives, CDs and what have you. The choice is up to you and your ingenuity.

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thanks a lot for the input guys. I am sold on the idea, and i will be looking into the software as of Acronis’ next stable build

i plan on moving soon and when i do i think i will set up some sort of back up system for all of the PCs (two of my own, and two of my girlfriend’s) on a server – i have no idea of how i’ll be doing this… yet – but hey, thats what the lounge is for, right??

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There are two issues.

1. Saving one’s bacon, tho I prefer soy, is a function of using a backup program, image or file based, it matters not.

2. Whether to use an image based or a file-based backup.

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Howard,
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image or file based, it matters not
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I think you still confuse Imaging and file backups.

A good read about one versus the other is HERE

Maybe it will clear up your views.

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knot at all.

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Bob, in spite of Howard’s usual sarcasm, I think that’s a good link to save for folks who could USE a little training on the STANDARDS of modern backup. I’m gonna bookmark it.

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Thanks Al,
It’s got a lot of good info in it.

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folks who could USE a little training on the STANDARDS of modern backup.
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Then there are others (?) who could use a LOT of training in a LOT of things.

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Bob, Just to let you know that I appreciated the article as well. Since I have had problems with a failing hard drive a while back and lost files – anything that gives me an idea of how I should do things is a help! Thanks!

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most gracious lady

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See this Backups: 1 from Fred Langa (a well known tech columnist). It has links to several other pages with more information on backups. Good stuff to consider.

Joe

--Joe

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Ayup, I’ve restore entire systems using REtrospect, and other backup software.

Indeed to get around the problem that I mentioned in an earlier article in this thread, I tried restoring with TI 9.2323 and it screwed things up, so, I restored ALL my drives using Retrospect..

One should use backup software to create a FULL backup of all drives, and then incremental backups as needed, I often do incrementals several times per day. This is easy using an external USB drive.

I use two USB drives, only one of which is connected at a time, and I swap the drives as the mood strikes me.

On my slow system, I do full backups overnight, tho with Retrospect it takes more than 11.5 hours on my ancient system.
I do incrementals whenever the mood strikes me, e.g., when I going to eat, or watch TV, or run errands.
I do NOT schedule backups. If I’ve just done several hours of whatever, I am not about to wait for a scheduled backup to run.

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Imaging programs also have an advantage over file-based programs, such as Retrospect, on a multiboot system.

With a multiboot system, say, you have OS on drive G and J, and Retrospect is installed in the OS on J.

In this case, Retrospect backs up the system state associated with the OS on drive J and backs up drive G
as if it had no OS, i.e., just backs up the files.

The problem is the backup set created by running Retrospect in the OS on
drive J CANNOT be used for a restore by a Retrospect that might be installed
in the OS in drive G. If you do, Retrospect really messes up drive G’s
system state.

With a dumb image backup, each drive is treated as a bunch of sectors, so
the system state issue does not exist.

A big problem I see with image backups, at least with Ghost 10 and TI 9, is that they do not acully do a compare during the backup, instead they use some sort of, I think, CRC to validate the sectors.

With, say, REtrospect, a true compare is done, or it just detects a changed file, and the discrepany is reported.
Allowing the user to, as needed, immediately make an incremental backup.

Most of the time the discrepancies can be ignored. For example, on my system, the stupid scanner software updates a .ini file once per minute, even if the scanner is unplugged.

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John,
Yes, it is that good.
GREAT insurance also for users like me who are always trying new programs.
This said, despite the few users who have trouble tying their shoelaces, not to mention using a computer utility.
( names omitted to protect the )

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Hey Bob,

I’m of the same mind on this one. Since my current version of True Image is working 100%, I really don’t have a need to update with this questionable build being offered. So, I’ve decided to wait for the next one, which I suspect will be forthcoming very soon. The installation issue sounds like a minor fix for Acronis.

Jeff

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I have not been able to install TI 9 on my system. During the install, I get the following error message:

Could not write value ExcludeMiniports to key SystemCurrentControlSetServicesASPI32Parameters. Verify that you have sufficient access to that key, or contact your support personnel.

Clicking Retry on the error did nothing except recycle the error. Clicking Ignore terminated the install and I got the following message:

The installer was interrupted before Acronis True Image could be removed. You need to restart the installer to try again.

Click “Close” to exit.

I am running as administrator, so I have all the access authority I need. I experimented with doing a clean minimal boot, stopping/terminating every possible task and stopping any user services. This did not help.

I don not have the ASPI32 key in my registry (referenced above). And further investigation shows I don’t have any of the normal 4 ASPI files on my WinXP SP2 system and they are apparently not needed because I have a mix of SCSI and ATA drives running without problems.

Has anyone else uncounted this problem with Acronis? Support (so far) says they do not understand what is going on.

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Edited by Bigaldoc to add: Corrected (I think) Bob’s post reference.[/i]

Are you trying to upgrade from a previous version of TI?
If so, you should completely UNINSTALL the old version first before attempting to install V9.

See my post above. post 540,544

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Nope. Never had TI on my system, so this is a complete new install.

The question I am interested in is why does TI NEED ASPI support and why doesn’t the OS (WinXP SP2) need it?

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