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WINDOWS 10 By Susan Bradley • Comment about this article We are a year away from the official end of the road for Windows 10. It’s pretty clear that y
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Susan Bradley wrote:

Microsoft’s Tech Community post Windows 11, version 24H2 security baseline documents additional settings, such as recommending that we disable the sudo for Windows unless we explicitly want it or need it in our businesses:

Sudo for Windows can be used as a potential escalation of privilege vector when enabled in certain configurations. The baseline configures this setting to a value of Disabled, which disables sudo for Windows.

Sudo for Windows is not enabled by default though; it has to be switched on at Settings, System, For developers. So the recommendation is really to not enable it unless needed:

How to enable Sudo for Windows

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Microsoft, I know up there in Redmond, sitting in a conference room with a dozen marketing executives sitting around a table, it is very easy to say, “Let’s start charging consumers for extending the life of their Win 10 PCs.”

There are millions of consumers with home PCs that are used for home banking, medical, and other critical purposes. The national news reported last night that elderly people had lost billions, yes billions, to hackers this year.

How many people will just keep using their PCs rather than pay for an extended license, which millions of people would not even know what an extended license is or how to use it? How many people, like me, have 3 Win10 perfectly good PCs and find being charged to keep them as offensive. How many people like my neighbor could no longer afford the constant stress of changing systems and threw her PC in the trash and now does all her banking on her iPhone?

Microsoft the average person is not like a business with an IT department that manages “licenses”. The average home use PC user just needs a simple, quality, secure, affordable piece of equipment that is not going to be forced into obsolescence for no reason other than for you to make more money and in turn help the hackers to make more money.

Microsoft, in that marketing meeting, think about all those people on pensions and all those people with $10/hour jobs living from paycheck to paycheck and all those people with little kids to feed and all those people that would have no idea their PC was at end of life. Please reconsider your plan to charge home PC users “extended license fees.” Instead make your money with such an attractive Win 11 that people will want to buy it if and when they can afford it.

Thank you.

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Speaking of the Brave browser.  The Brave search  has a  thing called Goggle.   For the political aficionados it gives you a choice of  left leaning search  or right leaning search.

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— Yeah I wonder if Edge becomes a mess without uBlock Origin.  We’ll see…

— I currently use Brave with uBlock Origin.  I may have to turn Brave Shields on in the future as an alternative.

— I would pay a fee for Win 10 ESC as long as it’s reasonable.  I have to hear how much, first.

 

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Why do they do this? I guess I know. But I liked Windows 7. My Win7 pc can’t run Win10 but it works fine. This is it they’re forcing you to upgrade HW and SW. If it ain’t broke why fix it. Also it adds to the pile  of Tech rubbish on this planet. Can’t be good. Some one should make MS support old OS for as long as they’re wanted, ok make people pay, I would, it’s still cheaper than buying new.

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They do change because they can’t put all of the security goodness on older OSs.

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2024/10/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-27718-canary-channel/

Case in point ”

• Administrator protection is an upcoming platform security feature in Windows 11, which aims to protect free floating admin rights for administrator users allowing them to still perform all admin functions with just-in-time admin privileges. This feature is off by default and needs to be enabled via group policy. We plan to share more details about this feature at Microsoft Ignite.”

That’s not something YOU would ever want.  But business customers want it.  Mark Minasi years ago would always say that Microsoft built their code for businesses but not us in small business or consumers. We just tag along for the ride.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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It wouldn’t shock me if Microsoft comes out around this time next year and says Windows 10 security updates will be extended for free.

Windows 11 has had nowhere near the adoption rate that they expected. I still can’t believe that they expected people to just throw out millions of perfectly good computers just for an OS update that no one asked for and that most people don’t want. Windows 11 is still a buggy mess with or without third party utilities.

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kandb

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Susan:
I’m 85 and only “geek-adjacent.” My DELL 8500 desktop and is not quite as old as I am, but in “PC years” likely older. I attribute my longevity to genes, but my Win10 PC longevity to the “geniuses” of AskWoody chief among which is YOU. Without your guidance over the years I may have been forced into a new computer. As it is–if one of us quits first–my Dell or me–it’s likely not the Dell. Thanks you all y’all.

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Hello Derek,

While I’m not 85 years of age – I’m 78  and continue to run my blowtorch Dell XPS 8500 desktop too.  And a mighty fine tower she is…  Bought mine during 2013 and upgraded from Win 8 to Win8.1 and the machine played on until Aug 30 this year when I upgraded to Win10 Home.  For me the x-64 based Win8.1 did everything I needed an OS to do with 24 GB of ram and the huge HDD.  Even without MS security updating I was careful where I computed used MS Defender, Malwarebytes and other items to stay safe.  The ONLY reason I updated to Win10 was that Firefox browser told us users that Firefox would stop providing security updates during Sep, 2024 and after I updated to 10, Firefox then extended security updating for six months.  I like Firefox and did not want to lose it as my browser.  Win10 works quite well with the 8500 but I miss Win8.1 and all that was familiar to me.  Almost three months later I am continuing to be on the learning curve constantly reminding myself how I do this and that when using 10 and rereading notes that I’ve written to assist me.  If not the biggest bitch I have it’s near the top of the list is my dislike for Windows 10 updating and the steps needed to keep updates off the machine until I’m ready to accept them.  Grr!!!  Microsoft says my PC will not tolerate W11 so it’s either a new machine or 0 patch or whatever Microsoft offers for ESU or go back to what I did after Microsoft stopped supplying security updates.  Only the passage of time will tell cause my 8500 is gonna go until one of us drops!!!

I echo and completely agree with you and your thoughts about the “geniuses” at AskWoody.  The folks that make up AskWoody have assisted me for years with their published information much of which I’ve printed and do refer to as reference to this day.  The organization is valuable to countless of us.

Bill T

Peoria, IL

 

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I’m a fan of Microsoft Defender, but Microsoft may drop support for it in Windows 10 when 10’s support period finally closes. This is something I’m watching closely, because antivirus updates for Windows 7 continued long after 7’s official support ended.

With regard to the above comment by Susan, I continue to use a Win 7 machine for an on-going project.  This machine has Microsoft Security Essentials installed and every time I boot it up the MSE icon in the system tray quickly turns green as the antivirus data base is updated.  Not only that but every Patch Tuesday this machine receives the Malicious Software Removal Tool.  I keep expecting this to end but so far it hasn’t.

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