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    Yesterday in the early evening my area in Washington DC metro area got hit particularly hard by what is known as a “bow echo storm”, a storm front curved backwards, seen as extending from horizon to horizon and producing continuously along its length strong downdrafts that when they hit the ground spread out as very powerful horizontal winds, in this case peaking at 70 mph around where I live.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_echo

    A bow echo is the characteristic radar return from a mesoscale convective system that is shaped like an archer’s bow. These systems can produce severe straight-line winds and occasionally tornadoes, causing major damage. They can also become derechos or form Line echo wave pattern (LEWP).

    The spectacle was amazing, with the rain falling horizontally in powerful curtains, as if gushing intermittently from a huge fire hose, while the majestic trees framing the edge of the property where my high-rise apartment stands were shaking and swaying as if they were so many tufts of grass.

    All of the above observed in twilight darkness, because although the sun was still up, the cloud cover was very thick, the scene illuminated sporadically by big flashes of thunderous lightning.

    The whole thing lasted less than twenty minutes because, as such storms do, it moved very fast, its departure revealing a scary, angry red sky, but it also left my neighborhood and my apartment in what was to be a prolonged darkness, having downed power lines and causing a blackout that, in the event and in my place, was going to last 26 hours. In the whole area affected, that covered several counties, the total number of houses left in the dark in such a very short time was more than 200,000.

    So I proceeded to lit candles and to live with no internet and, therefore without email and other things I use often, or most of the time, because the fiberoptics connection Optical Network Terminal box (ONT) in my apartment is powered from the mains, as is the router, and the mains was the power supply that was now out. My landline phone was also out, because it receives its signals from the same fiber connection, and fiber cannot deliver power to the phone the way copper lines did from the telephone exchange when they were still in use.

    So, for 26 hours, it was mostly living as before electricity, except for four things: my wrist-watch, powered by a tiny battery, was still working, my cellphone as well, the same as my pretty powerful rechargeable flashlight (then with noway to recharge) and, equally important, my trusty CCrane-2e multi band radio (that I bought to replace my old one after it gave up its ghost, on advice of radio enthusiasts here at AskWoody) so now I could listen to a local all-news FM station and learn about the situation outside my building and about the blackout and the repair efforts to end it, as well as to the National Weather Service warnings and other useful information, in the Weather band.

    Now I have the problem of getting rid of all that was in the freezer, that first defrosted and then stood in 70 degrees for so many hours without refrigeration. And wondering how long to wait before replacing all that at the supermarket, trusting that by then supplies there are going to be fresh and OK once more.

    This video shows clearly the effects of this brief storm in a neighborhood in my general area.

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/weather/weather-video/college-park-prepares-to-clean-up-after-severe-storm-damage/3099615/

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    • #2460438

      Wow, impressive.!

      300px-Bow_Echo_Kansas_City

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    • #2460620

      I saw on Weatherbug that a storm was coming and would eventually be affecting Maryland.  They mainly predicted heavy rain, high wind in some areas, flooding, and possible quarter sized hail.  Where I am we got some rain, heavy at times, and some wind that wasn’t enough to do any damage.  Our power stayed on the whole time.

      My wife and I watched the news and were astounded by what we were seeing.  The weather was the top story!  Various places around MD had been hit by storms with very high winds, knocking trees down on houses and on electric power poles. They said they looked like Derechos or straight line high speed winds that had done a great deal of damage and caused tens of thousands of people to have no electric power.  “We were lucky” I said to my wife.

      We ate dinner, watched Jeopardy!, and then we started watching another show when our power went out.  It was weird, the storm had been gone for a few hours, the sun had been out and was setting in a beautiful reddish orange sky, why was our power going out now?  I call the power company and just got the usual “we’re not sure right now but we’re looking into it”.

      Well, our power was out for 4½ hours, coming back on at around 12:30 am this morning. I know this because our microwave beeps when the power comes back on.  In a way we were lucky compared to what happened to many other people.  Calling the power company again I found out that they had to cut our power in order to fix another area.  4½ hours was not enough time to ruin the food in our fridge, and in fact the ice cream was still not melted.  Yeah, we were lucky – this time, but these storms have become an almost weekly thing!

       

      Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
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      • #2460731

        Charlie: “but these storms have become an almost weekly thing!”

        We often have had, in my forty years living in this area — and mostly in summer– strong rain, snow (in winter) and wind storms some with hail, including one tornado, one blizzard (with the eye passing right over where I was living then), two or three hurricanes and one tropical storm, with a few occasional blackouts. But I don’t remember anything like this one, except for just another one as strong as well as brief: the 2012 derecho storm: a fast moving straight line of thunderstorms working together, as it were, similar in its effects but not exactly the same weather phenomenon as Tuesday’s, as this one was a bow echo one.

        That derecho caused devastation in several states as it run from the Midwest towards the Mid-Atlantic, before finally getting here, in Maryland and Northern Virginia, to do its nasty work.

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        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
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        • #2461029

          Yes indeed, I remember that 2012 derecho storm well.  We had tree branches all over the back yard including one big branch out of my favorite Maple tree.  That was the first time I ever heard of a derecho.

          Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
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    • #2460652

      I feel your pain. Where I’m at we’re usually first to go out and last to be restored. That’s why I bought a couple generators because it’s often enough that it pays for itself.

      One tip I can offer is we place a couple well formed ice cubes in a cup in each freezer. If an outage occurs when we aren’t here we can somewhat gauge how long power was out by the melting of the cubes.

      Before the generators we just started cooking like crazy. Everything in the fridge then everything in the freezer. Have to say I have had some crazy gumbo come out of those events and it alleviates some of the boredom 🙂

      Stay safe guys!

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      • #2460655

        But, then, you have to find a place to store the cooked food without refrigeration, or make a pig of yourself. Even stuff cooked on a Coleman stove doesn’t outlast a four-day or longer outage. BTDT.

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        • #2460657

          No doubt! We’d stuff ourselves and give it away. No way I’m letting a couple hundred pounds of shrimp rot without a valiant effort to gorge myself first! 🙂

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    • #2460658

      That’s why I bought a couple generators because it’s often enough that it pays for itself.

      I almost bought a 15 KW whole house generator years ago, but didn’t like having to have two big ugly propane tanks standing near it.  I’m getting to the point where I’m reconsidering that decision.

      Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
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      • #2460672

        My Dad’s on propane. A little landscaping around the tank makes a world of difference! Just keep the tank as far from the house as practical. I worked a couple of those fires. They aren’t pretty and rain fire everywhere!

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    • #2460666

      well with fuel and power prices rocketing here, a standoff bicycle is in the back garden that may come in use yet to generate drive to power our old genny.
      8 hours cycle each day thru snow, hail, winds and rain await..
      I’ll have legs proportionate to a T-Rex lol

      Windows - commercial by definition and now function...
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      • #2460669

        Put a heavy metal flywheel on it with a clutch.  Once you get that flywheel going, engage the generator and you only have to keep the flywheel rotating.  Engineers love this kind of project but I’m too old for that and there’s no kids around much anymore.

        Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
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      • #2460670

        You ain’t kidding! During a months long outage I was filling up 3 55 gallon drums of gasoline every couple weeks I think to run mine. Heck, I’d have to get a 2nd mortgage for that now!

        I have a nat gas distribution line running in the front of my property and have what they call a “farm tap” BUT it is surrounded by trees so not 100% that it’ll work always. They did build a cage to protect our meter somewhat. Tri-fuel is my answer to the issue!

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          Tri-fuel is the answer if they could make it more inexpensive, and easier to find.

          Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
    • #2460698

      Hope you had a good book handy. Take pics of the freezer carnage and maybe the electric company will reimburse you. Did they not offer dry ice?

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
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      • #2460710

        wavy: I had plenty of books to read and re-read.

        What I did not have was adequate light to read by. My flash light would have been adequate, but I could not risk depleting its batteries without knowing how long the blackout was going to last, only that was likely to do so for one or two whole days (the blackout caused by the 20-minute Monday event lasted one whole day and two hours in my place – but there are still others in this region that are just starting to get the electricity back.) The candles I was using were not enough to provide reading light, unlike those from ancient times, that were built to provide light, not to add mood to a romantic dinner. I am considering buying more suitable candles to replace some of the ones I have.

        As to asking for a reimbursement from the power company for the cost of replacing the spoiled food in the freezer: small enough of a loss for me, not as if I were the owner of a butcher’s shop or a fishmonger’s and had my business in trouble after loosing all of the merchandise because of the blackout, for example; so not worth the hassle. Besides, this unusual and unusually destructive brief storm was definitely an “act of God”, same as  a major flood and most likely not legally the power company’s fault. So it’s quite likely I would get nothing from a claim for reimbursement. It’s not as if I had blackout insurance, if that even existed.

        Finally, about having and using a propane or gasoline fueled generator: there is one in this apartments’ building for the whole building, to keep lights on along the corridors and staircases, not all corridor lights and for staircases only when someone is  using them. In all cases, providing just enough illumination to see one’s way. As to having one’s own generator on standby, no to mention keeping a catch of its fuel in one’s apartment, or anywhere here, just in case: seriously and strongly discouraged in this place. For what to me are excellent reasons.

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        • #2460727

          Oscar,

          My wife bought a bunch of “fluorescent  lanterns” (think the name is “VONT” or something) some time back and positioned them throughout the house. Great when power is out. Just yank them up and they illuminate the area.

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    • #2460728

      What I did not have was adequate light to read by. My flash light would have been adequate, but I could not risk depleting its batteries without knowing how long the blackout was going to last, only that was likely to do so for one or two whole days

      I realize that you are referring to reading real books. But last year I bought a Kindle Paperwhite.

      I read at bedtime on that with the lights out, and the gentle backlight in the Paperwhite does just fine. And the battery charge lasts about a week on a charge. And easily replenished with a cell phone charger, or backup battery.

      Just something to consider…

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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    • #2460784

      JohnW: I have looked at “Kindle Paper”, that comes with ads (?) or, for some dollars more, without ads. Fine, but I can’t find anything about with what one charges its battery: cables, AC adapter, the usual? Nothing about that at all. Nice that one can connect with WiFi via one’s router to the Internet to download books. There is also a USB-C cable that might or might not be for charging the battery from a mains socket in the wall. Assuming one has a compatible AC adapter to plug in there, with the USB cable connected to it at one end and to the Kindle on the other (?).

      Also about glare: is this as bad as a PC screen or can be adjusted to be less harsh on one’s eyes? How different is it from reading a book with a 60W desk lamp close by for illumination?

      Thanks for letting me know about the possibility of reading with this device, because it looks like less effort holding one than a 500-page hardbound book with the same content. But I am not quite sure about that, because it seems that one must hold it with one hand, particularly in bed. Isn’t that also tiring, in a different way?

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      • #2460914

        Charge lasts several books, even several weeks turned off. For charging: USB cable + power adapter.

        Mine is one of the first ones, has an actual physical keyboard. Had it for probably 10+ years. Still works good. You can adjust the font size to match your eyes. I understand the newer ones have a background light adjustment as well. Put on a cover and it feels like a reak book.

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    • #2460977

      JohnW: I have looked at “Kindle Paper”, that comes with ads (?) or, for some dollars more, without ads.

      PKCano covered your power questions already, so I’ll just add a bit more info about the ads and screen.

      I have the previous generation Kindle Paperwhite, 10th gen (2018 release) that is waterproof, ad supported, with 8 GB memory, and 6″ display. This model is no longer available new, I got it a year ago in a very good Amazon sale for $71.

      First, about the ads. “The ad-supported option (also known as Special Offers or Lockscreen Ads) displays sponsored screensavers on your device’s lockscreen.” They only show up on the welcome screen when the device wakes up, and are generally for books that may be of interest. Just a swipe with one finger clears the welcome screen. Amazon never interrupts your reading with pop-up ads or anything distracting on-screen during your session. So IMO, ads are not an issue.

      The screen itself is unique, and quite unlike any tablet or laptop LCD. Of course it is 300 ppi black & white, glare free, laser quality text. The amazing thing is that unlike with most color LCDs, you can read this thing outside in direct sunlight. Perfect for beach, pool or backyard!

      And this thing goes with me just about anywhere that I might have to sit and wait for a while. It’s small and thin enough, even with a cover, to slip into a pocket in pants or a jacket. You don’t even need to tote along a charger, because this stays charged for a long time. I only charge mine about once a week.

      And you can carry your library with you in a device that’s about paperback book sized, but much thinner!

      I bought mine without the Kindle Unlimited plan, but caved and added it later for $9.99/month. Great value! I haven’t needed to buy any books since, with the thousands of titles available to “borrow” on the plan. It doesn’t include all of the books sold by Amazon, but it is like drinking from a fire hose! 🙂

      And, I forgot to mention that you can install the Kindle app on your color tablet or laptop, so some color textbooks and magazines are more legible. The Kindle app will synchronize your library with the Paperwhite, so you can move seamlessly between devices, to keep on the same page, so to speak!

      Back on topic: No candles or flashlights needed to read one of these during a power outage!

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2

    • #2461045

      Those lanterns are still going to need batteries and have their uses but for me I put my LED flashlight on end pointed up and the light reflecting off the ceiling serve well and does not shine unwantedly in my eyes. I make sure I have a good stock of batteries, I buy them by the box (Home Depot used to ,before covid have HDX branded, Best Buy had a house brand Insignia that were both very good) They generally claim a suitably long shelf life. I also make sure I have a couple of C cell flashlights as these are less popular and more likely to be in stock in an emergency.

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #2461055

      JohnW and PK:

      Thanks for your kind answers.

      But my question about power to recharge the Kindle Paper battery remains, because what I have seen about today’s Kindle Paper model, either does not mention what is needed to recharge the battery (i.e., no mention of cables or AC adapters in Amazon’s offering, for example), only online advice elsewhere that none come in the box of a just bought Kindle Paper, so I need to buy my own, whatever “my own” cable and adapter for this device might need to be.

      As to the Kindle application for computers, I have had it in my Mac laptop for several years by now, with quite a few books there already. I also have another application, freeware this time, with voluntary donations, called “Calibre”, with hundreds of books in it, mostly classics out of copyright, all obtained for free, mainly from the Gutenberg Project. And all of these not in the Cloud, but saved in my computer, the Windows 7 before and now my MacBook Pro. But not very convenient for reading in bed.

      Particularly when there is a blackout and I need to spare the laptop’s battery to do some actual work offline …

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

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    • #2461069

      But my question about power to recharge the battery remains, because what I have seen about today’s Kindle Paper model, either does not mention what is needed to recharge the battery (i.e., no mention of cables or AC adapters

      My older model uses a standard USB cable with a USB B-micro male connector at the device end, and USB A male end at the other, such as for (most common) use is with a USB charger adapter that plugs into the wall.

      It ships with the required USB cable, but not the wall adapter. I just use the wall adapter for my cell phone. Newer models (may) use a USB C plug instead of USB B-micro. At least My Kindle Fire Tablet does. But that also shipped with the required cable.

      For uses other than the wall charger adapter, I can plug the USB A male cable connector end into anything that supplies power over USB, such as a computer’s USB port, a portable USB backup battery, a public USB charging station, etc. It’s fairly common industry standard that USB chargers offer a USB A type female port at the charger end, so most charging cables are equipped that way at one end.

      And the Kindle Paperwhite works great offline! It only needs Wi-Fi access to the Kindle cloud to download books, or sync with your Kindle account. It stores the books you download on the internal flash memory. With 8 or 32 GB, it can hold thousands of books locally. They are also backed up to your Kindle cloud in case your device ever fails, or is lost, stolen, etc.

      So in the event of a power failure, you can run the reader device standalone, and conserve your laptop power! 🙂

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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    • #2461714

      On the stormy weather and the as brief as destructive event early this week:

      Reading about the 1993 blizzard I have mentioned near the beginning of this thread, the one that was like a huge hurricane with a well-defined eye that passed right above where I was living then, I found out that it has been called “the Storm of the Century.”

      Fancy that!

      Also, a moment ago, I looked up to the window and saw what appeared to be a very thick fog, but turned out to be a steady and unusually copious rainpour falling straight down, as no wind was blowing. What made me look out the window was the jarring tones that interrupted a violin concerto I was half-listening to on the radio while typing my daily share of new email messages and older one’s answers: the four usual harsh tones preceding an overriding all-radio-stations announcement of an emergency, in this case of flash floods in my area, because of the downpour.

      I have not been in, or close to one of those floods, so far, today.

      This promises to be an interesting summer.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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      • #2461721

        Ha! I just had a client call in a panic to shut all his systems down as it was blowing like crazy and power going out. As I’m talking with him, the sky opened up here too. My poor son got soaked cutting the grass and trying to make it to the shed 🙂 Got about 1.5″ of rain within about 15 minutes! Now it’s nice and steam is coming off the driveway. But hey, that’s Looouuuusiannnnna Baby!

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