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    AKB2000014 Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates

    By @Nathan Parker

    Published February 10, 2025 rev 2.40

    This is a regularly updated list of Apple operating system updates (grouped by device), along with guidance in determining when it is recommended to install each update. Instructions on updating each device are also included.

    For users with multiple Apple devices (such as a Mac, iPhone, and iPad, etc.), I recommend waiting to install annual major operating system upgrades after Apple has released the major operating system upgrades for each device type. Occasionally, Apple will make major changes to how app data syncs across devices over iCloud, and waiting to upgrade devices after the major operating system upgrades have been released for each device type provides for the smoothest upgrade experience.

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    macOS

    macOS (formerly Mac OS X and OS X) is the operating system that powers Mac computers. Mac OS X Cheetah-OS X Lion installs operating system updates through Software Update in System Preferences. OS X Mountain Lion-macOS High Sierra installs operating system updates through the Mac App Store. macOS Mojave-Present has moved operating system update installs back through Software Update in System Preferences. Instructions for installing macOS updates can be found here.

    Major operating system upgrades for all future macOS releases are delivered through an installer downloaded from the Mac App Store (prior to OS X Lion, operating system upgrades were delivered through a DVD). Mac OS X Cheetah-OS X Mountain Lion named major operating system releases after large cats. OS X Mavericks to the present version of macOS are named after California locations. Major versions are released once a year.

    General recommendations for installing macOS upgrades:

    1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as macOS Catalina 10.15 in October), it is generally recommended to wait and install the upgrade after its first minor update is released (in this case, 10.15.1).
    2. When a minor update to a major operating system version is released (for Catalina, that would be 10.15.1, 10.15.2, 10.15.3, etc.), it is generally recommended to wait a few days after the update has been released before installing it to ensure no major issues have been noted. I generally install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Mac is working as should from the update before the following week.
    3. When an update marked Supplemental Update or Security Update is released, it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally follow the same schedule and install such updates on the Friday after release. Some Security Updates are folded into minor updates instead of being released as separate updates.

    What version of macOS can my Mac run: Information on Macworld.

    Current Version: macOS Sequoia 15.3.1, February 10, 2025. This update has no published CVE entries. Information on MacWorld Superguide +15.3.1AppleInsider, and  MacRumors.

    Previous Version: macOS Sequoia 15.3, January 27, 2025. Security content of macOS 15.3. Information on MacWorld Sequoia Superguide, MacRumors, MacRumors Security Updates, 9TO5Mac, AppleInsider.

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    Current Version: macOS Sonoma 14.7.4, February 10, 2025. This update has no published CVE entries.

    Previous Version: macOS Sonoma 14.7.3, January 27, 2025. Security content of macOS 13.7.3.

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    Current Version: macOS Ventura 13.7.4, February 10, 2025. Available for MacBook Pro (2021 and later) and iMac (2023). This update has no published CVE entries.

    Previous Version: macOS Ventura 13.7.3, January 27, 2025. Available for MacBook Pro (2021 and later) and iMac (2023). Security content of macOSVentura 13.7.3.

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    Current Version: macOS Monterey 12.7.6, July 29, 2024  Security content of macOS Monterey 12.7.6. Information on MacWorld.

    Previous Version: macOS Monterey 12.7.5, May 13, 2024  Security content of macOS Monterey 12.7.5.

    A list of older previous versions of Mac OS X, OS X, and macOS is available here.

    Occasionally, certain Macs will also require a firmware update. These updates are usually included in a minor update or a Supplemental update. While firmware updates are generally safe to install (and Macs generally need the firmware update to resolve an issue), occasionally a firmware update can cause issues, so it is recommended to read up on firmware updates before installing them to ensure it is safe to proceed. This article provides general instructions concerning Mac firmware updates. The most common firmware updates have been SMC firmware updates.

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    iOS

    iOS (formerly iPhone OS until iOS 4) is the operating system that powers iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads (up until iOS 12. iOS 13 offers a variant for iPads known as iPadOS). Updates can either be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings (iOS 5 or later), or through iTunes (in macOS Catalina, iTunes iOS device management is being replaced by device management through the Finder that will mirror the functionality of iTunes). Instructions for installing iOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

    General recommendations for installing iOS updates:

    1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as iOS 13), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (in most cases, that would be a 0.1 update such as iOS 13.0.1, but it seems for iOS 13, Apple is folding such updates into iOS 13.1).
    2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as iOS 12.4.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iOS devices are working as should from the update before the following week.
    3. When a minor feature update is released (such as iOS 12.4 or iOS 13.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iOS devices are working as should from the update before the following week. I have occasionally encountered an issue with minor feature updates causing an issue I would need to self-resolve or need resolved in a successive minor bug fix update.

    iOS 18 compatible devices: on 9TO5Mac.

    Current Version iOS 18.3.1, February 10, 2025. iPhone XS and later. Security content of iOS 18.3.1. Information on AppleInsider, 9TO5Mac, 9TO5Mac, MacRumors, and MacRumors.

    Previous Version iOS 18.3, January 27, 2025. iPhone XS and later. Security content of iOS 18.3. Information on MacWorld iOS18 SuperGuide, MacWorld, 9TO5Mac, MacRumors, MacRumors, MacRumors.

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    Current Version: iOS 17.7.2, November 19, 2024. For iPhone XS and later. Security content for iOS 17.7.2. Information on 9TO5Mac, and AppleInsider.

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    Current Version: iOS 16.7.10, August 7, 2024 for iPhone 8 and later. This update has no published CVE entries.

    Previous Version: iOS 16.7.9, July 29, 2024 for iPhone 8 and later. Security content of iOS 16.7.9.

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    iPadOS

    Beginning with iOS 13, Apple has released a variant for iPads known as iPadOS. Updates can either be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings, or through iTunes (in macOS Catalina, iTunes iOS device management is being replaced by device management through the Finder that will mirror the functionality of iTunes). Instructions for installing iPadOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

    General recommendations for installing iPadOS updates:

    1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as iPadOS 13), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (in most cases, that would be a 0.1 update such as iPadOS 13.0.1, but we are not sure how Apple is going to handle the first minor update to iPadOS 13 yet).
    2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as iPadOS 13.0.1, if released), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iPad is working as should from the update before the following week.
    3. When a minor feature update is released (such as iPadOS 13.1, if released), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my iPad is working as should from the update before the following week. I have occasionally encountered an issue with minor feature updates causing an issue I would need to self-resolve or have need resolved in a successive minor bug fix update.

    iPadOS 18 compatible devices: on 9TO5Mac.

    Current version: iPadOS18.3.1, February 10, 2025, iPad Pro 13-inch, iPad Pro 12.9-inch 3rd generation and later, iPad Pro 11-inch 1st generation and later, iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 7th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th generation and later. Security content of iPadOS 18.3.1. Information on AppleInsider, 9TO5Mac, 9TO5Mac, MacRumors, and MacRumors.

    Previous version: iPadOS18.3, January 27, 2025, iPad Pro 13-inch, iPad Pro 12.9-inch 3rd generation and later, iPad Pro 11-inch 1st generation and later, iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 7th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th generation and later. Security content of iPadOS 18.3. Information on AppleInsider, and MacRumors.

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    Current Version: iPadOS 17.7.5, February 10, 2025. iPad Pro 12.9-inch 2nd generation, iPad Pro 10.5-inch, and iPad 6th generation. Security content for iPadOS 17.7.5. Information on MacRumors and MacRumors.

    Previous Version: iPadOS 17.7.4, January 27, 2025. For iPad Pro 12.9-inch 2nd generation, iPad Pro 10.5-inch, and iPad 6th generation. Security content for iPadOS 17.7.4.

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    Current Version: iPadOS 16.7.10, August 7, 2024 iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th generation and later. This update has no published CVE entries.

    Previous Version: iPadOS 16.7.9, July 29, 2024 iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th generation and later. Security content of iOS 16.7.9.

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    watchOS

    watchOS is the operating system that powers Apple Watches. Updates can either be installed through the Watch app on a paired iPhone or wirelessly using Software Update in Settings (future updates installed after installing watchOS 6 or later). Instructions for installing watchOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

    General recommendations for installing iOS updates:

    1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as watchOS 6), it is generally recommended to wait and install the update after its first minor update is released (such as watchOS 6.0.1).
    2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as watchOS 6.0.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Apple Watch working as should from the update before the following week.
    3. When a minor feature update is released (such as watchOS 6.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after the update is released, although I generally wait and install such updates on the Friday after release to give myself the weekend to further test and ensure my Apple Watch working as should from the update before the following week.

    Current Version: watchOS 11.3.1 for Apple Watch Series 6 and later, February 10, 2025. This update has no published CVE entries. Information on MacRumors.

    Previous Version: watchOS 11.3 for Apple Watch Series 6 and later, January 27, 2025. Security content for watchOS 11.3. Information on AppleInsider, 9TO5Mac, and MacRumors.

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    Current Version: watchOS 10.6.1 for Apple Watch Series 4 and later,  August 19, 2024. Update has no published CVE entries. Information on AppleInsider, MacRumors, and 9TO5Mac.

    Previous Version: watchOS 10.6 for Apple Watch Series 4 and later,  July 29, 2024. Security content of watchOS 10.6. Information on MacRumors, and 9TO5Mac.

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    tvOS

    tvOS is the operating system that powers the fourth-generation Apple TV (Apple TV HD) and later (previous Apple TV models used custom Apple TV software based on a variant of iOS). Updates can be installed wirelessly using Software Update in Settings. Instructions for installing tvOS updates are available here. Major versions are released once a year with successive version numbers.

    General recommendations for installing tvOS updates:

    1. When a major operating system upgrade is released (such as tvOS 13), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release (as fewer issues tend to occur with Apple TV compared to other Apple devices). I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.
    2. When a minor bug fix update is released (such as tvOS 13.0.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release. I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.
    3. When a minor feature update is released (such as tvOS 13.1), it is generally safe to install these shortly after release. I generally install these on the Sunday after their release since I am generally watching some content on Apple TV over the weekend, and I initiate the update when I am finished watching content on Apple TV.

    Current Version: tvOS 18.3.  January 27, 2025. Security content for tvOS 18.3. Apple TV HD and Apple TV 4K (all models). Security content of tvOS 18.3. Information on  MacRumors, AppleInsider, 9TO5Mac.

    Previous Version: tvOS 18.2.1. Janusry 16, 2025. This update has no published CVE entries.

    Previous Version: tvOS 18.2.  December 11, 2024. Security content for tvOS 18.2. Information on  9TO5Mac, and MacRumors.

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    Current Version: tvOS 17.6.1  August 19, 2024.Updates has no published CVE entries. Information on AppleInsider, 9TO5Mac, and MacRumors.

    Previous Version: tvOS 17.6  July 29, 2024. Security content of tvOS 17.6. Information on AppleInsider, 9TO5Mac, and MacRumors.

    Occasionally, the Siri remote on the fourth-generation Apple TV (Apple TV HD) or later will require a firmware update. These are generally handled automatically after tvOS updates, although occasionally it is recommended to check for these firmware updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually update the Siri remote firmware. Siri remote firmware updates are safe install shortly after release (and it is generally recommended they are installed shortly after release).

    Special Updates to Previous Versions:

    Apple TV Software 7.6.1 (for third generation Apple TV) INSTALL

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    AirPods
    The firmware on AirPods should update automatically, especially after iOS updates. However, occasionally it is recommended to check for these firmware updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually check AirPods firmware. AirPod firmware updates are safe install shortly after release (and it is generally recommended they are installed shortly after release).

    MacRumors – AirPods Firmware update Instructions.

    Current Firmware Version 7B20 for: AirPods 4.

    Current Firmware Version 6F21 for: AirPods 3.

    Current Firmware Version 7B21 for: AirPods Pro 2nd gen.

    Current Firmware Version 6F21 for: AirPods Pro 1st gen, AirPods 2nd and 3rd gen, AirPods Max.

    Current Firmware Version 6.8.8 for: AirPods 1st gen.

    Previous Firmware Version 6A326 for: AirPods 3. January 17, 2024.

    Previous Firmware Version 6A305 for: AirPods Pro 2nd gen. October 18, 2023.

    Previous Firmware Version 6A303 for: AirPods Pro 1st gen, AirPods 2nd and 3rd gen, AirPods Max. October 11, 2023.

    AirPods 3D printed USB-C case, July 20, 2022.

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    HomePod

    The software on the HomePod should update automatically. However, occasionally it is recommended to install these software updates manually. These instructions explain how to manually update the software on the HomePod. HomePod software updates are likely safe to install shortly after release (as fewer issues tend to occur with the HomePod compared to other Apple devices).

    Current Version: HomePod Software 18.3, January 27, 2025. Information on 9TO5Mac.

    Previous Version: HomePod Software 18.2, December 11, 2024. Information on MacRumors, 9TO5Mac, and 9TO5Mac.

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    Previous Version: HomePod Software 17.5, May 13, 2024. Information on MacRumors.

    Previous Version: HomePod Software 17.4 March 7, 2024. Information on 9TO5Mac MacRumors, and MacRumors.

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    AirPort
    AirPort wireless routers have been discontinued by Apple. However, occasionally there has been a firmware update released for AirPort wireless routers. These firmware updates are generally installed automatically. However, here are the the instructions explaining how to manually update the firmware on AirPort wireless routers. Firmware updates should be installed shortly after release to improve the security and reliability of AirPort wireless routers.

    Due to the fact that Apple has discontinued AirPort wireless routers, users should slowly begin transitioning to another brand wireless router for security updates. I have personally had good experience with Cisco Small Business routers, and I have had excellent wireless performance with Cambium Networks business routers and wireless access points. I have also had decent wireless performance with Asus wireless routers.

    The latest firmware available for AirPort Extreme AC models is:

    7.9.1 INSTALL

    The latest firmware available for AirPort Express N models is:

    7.8 INSTALL

    A list of the latest firmware for older AirPort models is available here.

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    Security Updates
    Apple occasionally releases security updates for its various devices. These are generally included in major operating system upgrades or minor operating system updates. A list of all recent Apple security updates is available here.

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    • #1964657

      NOTE: both iOS 9.3.6 and 10.3.4 GPS Fix for older tech

      Apple recommends all users with eligible devices install the new updates. Apple devices won’t be affected until November 3, 2019, so there should be plenty of time for users with affected iPhones and iPads to install the new software.

      quote from
      https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/22/apple-releases-gps-bug-fix-older-iphones-ipads/

      and from the horses mouthhttps://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210239

      My interpretation of this is that it needs to be done prior to November 3rd 2019 otherwise the GPS function will not work as intended thereafter.

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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      • #1964752

        I just updated a friend’s iPhone5 to 10.3.4 and it’s all good. Glad we have Apple on the AW forum. It’s going to help lots of folks.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #1964836

      Please, note the following, because it can be somewhat unnerving for those of us still getting to know our Macs and used to how Windows updates work:

      In my, admittedly rather limited experience, system updates, whether initial or incremental, take about the same, long time to install. Once the process starts by clicking “install”, it will go through a cycle where the machine actually seems to turn itself completely off several times, but then restarts showing the usual loader screen: black with a white apple in the middle and a loading bar under it. The bar sometimes does not move, or move backwards, or the screen goes all black again before it has extended fully. The whole process, until finally getting to a login screen a bit different from the usual one, takes some 20 minutes, give or take. After logging in, everything looks to be back to normal.

      With my thanks to PKCano for starting and taking care of this very timely new knowledge-base for the benefit of Mac users, and for writing its detailed opening entry. And for the good advice on when to install system updates (the same as for Windows upgrades and patches and except for rare emergencies: wait a while after they are first offered!)

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #1964846

        Let’s give Credit where Credit is due.
        If you will notice at the top, the credit goes to Nathan Parker for this Thread. It’s his knowledge that he put together for this very informative piece.

        I simply did the posting.

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        • #1964860

          Yep. I often let Nathan know how valuable his input and research/knowledge is for us with Apple devices and such. We are very lucky to have Mr. Parker aboard.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #1964861

          Yes, I’m afraid I missed that. So now I must make it even clearer that Nathan is behind this. He has been great help from his first coming to Woody’s as go-to Apple expert in residence, always quick to answer questions and give useful advice concerning the problems I and others may be having with the use of our Macs, iPhones, iPads, etc. As well as being a bringer of timely and useful information on new developments and changes concerning Apple products, both software and hardware. Doing all that while in the middle of his higher-degree studies and being active making informative videos. For that and for your ever gentle and unassuming manner: Thank you, Nathan!

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #1964993

          Here’s a big thanks to Nathan Parker!

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    • #1964877

      I would DEFINITELY suggest waiting to update to ipadOS 13.1 – first time I’ve ever really had issues with an iOS update happened last night. My Air2 now won’t connect to wifi and isn’t recognizable by itunes. (Itunes 12.6.5.3, so ymmv.) Limited # of apps tested; most of them crash soon after startup.

      I didn’t do a backup before I did it, since I had been lulled into a false sense of security. Last backup was about 2 weeks ago.

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      • #1965119

        *Edit to say I just saw where you’re having trouble connecting to WiFi and further say that iTunes won’t even recognize your device, ouch! Sounds like a jumbled mess. So the suggestion below seems a moot point unless someone can come through with better advice. Good luck!

        Maybe this will help. You should be able to restore your iPad Air2 back to 12.4.1. from 13.1. through iTunes using a PC or Mac. Of course it would be ideal to have a recent backup prior to the upgrade but at least you will have a reliable and stable iOS. You can wait for a new update that fixes this mess, but considering all the flaws popping up that could take awhile. Here’s a link with downgrade info.
        https://wccftech.com/how-to/downgrade-ipados-to-ios-12/

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #1966674

      Released iOS /iPadOS 13.1.1 to fix battery drain, Siri, iPhone restores.

      iOS 13.1.1 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

      Fixes issues that could prevent iPhone restoring from backup
      Addresses an issue that could cause battery to drain more quickly
      Fixes an issue that could impact recognition of Siri requests on iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
      Resolves a problem where Safari search suggestions may re-enable after turning them off
      Addresses an issue that could cause Reminders to sync slowly
      Fixes a security issue for third-party keyboard apps

      https://9to5mac.com/2019/09/27/apple-releases-ios-13-1-1-with-fixes-for-battery-drain-siri-iphone-restores/

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      • #1966830

        Maybe somebody could start a new topic for the latest Apple iOS,  iPadOS updates after a download/install. I’m sticking with 12.4.1 until an update comes along that’s more solid. Sometimes it takes a few additional minor fixes until they get it right.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #1966835

      Maybe somebody could start a new topic for the latest Apple iOS, iPadOS updates after a download/install. I’m sticking with 12.4.1 until an update comes along that’s more solid. Sometimes it takes a few additional minor fixes until they get it right.

      12.4.2 has been released in parallel with 13.1.1. I’ve installed 12.4.2 on my iPhone 6 with no visible issues.

      I’ve also not seen any issues so far on my iPhone 8 with 13.1.1.

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      • #1966887

        I knew there was a 12.4.2 for iPhone 6 and others who were using an older device that were dropped by 13. I have an 8Plus but will wait a bit longer. Good to know your 8 is problem free so far! Let us know if there’s anything buggy or even if  a few days from now it’s still doing good. Thanks!

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

        • #1966905

          The AKB will get updated when I get the time. There are updates for older iOS and MacOS that need to be added. Nathan has sent me some of the information to add (when I get a round tuit).Round-TUIT

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          • #1967011

            PK could you please get to the point 😊 Or you could borrow my round tuit. No problem I know you’ve got a load. Take a break go hang out in Hawaii under a palm tree, you deserve it.

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

        • #1967279

          I knew there was a 12.4.2 for iPhone 6 and others who were using an older device that were dropped by 13. I have an 8Plus but will wait a bit longer. Good to know your 8 is problem free so far! Let us know if there’s anything buggy or even if a few days from now it’s still doing good. Thanks!

          Today my iPhone 6 (that I updated to 12.4.2) had a wonky Bluetooth issue with my car.

          It initially connected okay, but when I turned on the audio in the car to play the music that I had ready to go on the phone, there was no sound. I checked the volume level. I checked the phone, which showed that the music was playing. Pausing and resuming the playback did nothing. I turned off the Bluetooth on the phone and turned it back. The phone and car now would not connect.

          For the return trip, I followed the normal procedures. The connection took place normally and the music played through the car’s speakers normally.

          I don’t know if the issue had anything to do with 12.4.2. I don’t even know whether the issue was the fault of the phone or of the car.

          I’m taking the iPhone 6 out of service very soon anyway. The iPhone 8 (on 13.1.1) is replacing it. I’ve got it almost ready to go.

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          • #1970586

            I made four trips today (going to two different places, returning home between) and did not have any problems on any trip with my iPhone 6 running 12.4.2 with either Bluetooth connectivity or with car audio playing music from the phone.

            I’ve upgraded my iPhone 8 to 13.1.2 with no apparent issues yet. I haven’t used the Bluetooth on the 8 yet because the SIM card is still in the 6, so the 8 stays home when I go places.

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        • #1977166

          Last Thursday I got the phone functions moved from my iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.2) to my new iPhone 8 (iOS 13.1.2), and subsequently wiped the 6.

          No visible problems with the 8 and iOS 13.1.2, including no bluetooth connection problems nor audio problems with my car.

    • #1967276

      AKB2000014: Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates has been updated Saturday, September 28, 2019 to reflect the recent updates issued by Apple.

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    • #1969052

      Dev/Public beta of iOS 13.1.2 released.

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    • #1969070

      had a wonky Bluetooth issue with my car.

      I guess that I am blessed 🙂 Never in ~8 years with iPhone devices have I accounted BT connection problems in my cars. I think the reason is that I never settled for the build-in audio/media systems that came with my cars and always install high end systems (current : iPhone Max, iOS 13.1.2 beta, Pioneer AVH-X8850BT).

    • #1969085

      Dev macOS Catalina beta 10 released.

    • #1969093

      watchOS 6.0.1 released to the public.

      watchOS 6.0.1 optimizes performance, provides security updates, and contains improvements and bug fixes, including:

      Resolves an issue where the Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse watch face does not speak time
      Addresses an issue where the calendar complication may not display events
      Fixes a bug that could result in a loss of display calibration data

    • #1969102

      Dev/Public beta of iOS 13.1.2 released

      Correction : This is a public release, not beta.

      iOS 13.1.2 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

      Fixes a bug where the progress bar for iCloud Backup could continue to show after a successful backup
      Fixes an issue where Camera may not work
      Addresses an issue where the flashlight may not activate
      Fixes a bug that could result in a loss of display calibration data
      Fixes an issue where shortcuts could not be run from HomePod
      Addresses an issue where Bluetooth may disconnect on certain vehicles

      • #1969132

        Alex57232 and Nathan Parker….these update fixes to iOS 13 are coming fast and furious now.  13.1.2 is not yet on gottabemobile.com and they are usually very fast on this.  iOS 13.1.1 is recommended as “install” on this 2000014 Knowledge Base forum and now there is 13.1.2.  Question/Comment….Gordon Kelly who has the Forbes articles quoted on this Forum before, is recommending a hold on 13.1.1 for now.  He thinks iOS13 is that messed up.  If I may ask, why do you recommend install for 13.1.1 and do you think these problems are iPhone model specific?  I have a 6S.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #1969172

          why do you recommend install for 13.1.1 and do you think these problems are iPhone model specific?  I have a 6S

          Just installed iOS 13.1.2 on my iPhone Max, Installed WatchOS 6.0.1 on my Apple Watch 5 and starting installation of iPadOS 3.1.2 (3.06GB) on my iPad 10.5 Pro.
          I am a beta user too.

          Contrary to Windows 10 updates where I wait 30 days (security updates) and 6 months (feature update) I install Apple’s security and bug fixes the minute they are out. Never in ~8+ years have I came across a sever problem/bug.

          I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13.

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          • #1969231

            “I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13”

            Alex, no the 6S gets 13.  The iPhone 6 and below don’t get it.  I was wondering if the iOS13 problems were more or less model specific, ie, the newer models have the problems.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #1969236

              “I think the the 6s hardware is too old for the new iOS 13”

              Alex, no the 6S gets 13.  The iPhone 6 and below don’t get it.  I was wondering if the iOS13 problems were more or less model specific, ie, the newer models have the problems.

              I haven’t said the the 6s doesn’t get iOS 13, I said that the hardware is too old to carry iOS 13.
              You could take the “Windows root”, backup your 6s, wipe your 6s, and start as new.

            • #1969270

              “I haven’t said the the 6s doesn’t get iOS 13, I said that the hardware is too old to carry iOS 13.
              You could take the “Windows root”, backup your 6s, wipe your 6s, and start as new.”

              Alex….help me here.  I know I could install 13 via a iPhone Restore on iTunes to free up space before it installs the newest update, but I have 17.58 GB available now and isn’t iOS13 around 2.28 GB?  Also, doesn’t it  also free up space by implementing APFS as the new file system.  When you said “too old”, I’m assuming you were referring to available space.  Thanks.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #1969409

              According to this Ars Technica article:
              iOS 13 on the iPhone 6S and SE: New software runs fine on a phone that’s still fast
              … “People upgrading to iOS 13 this year may have more of an incentive than usual to keep using their old phones rather than upgrading to new ones.”

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            • #1969463

              According to this Ars Technica article:
              iOS 13 on the iPhone 6S and SE: New software runs fine on a phone that’s still fast
              … “People upgrading to iOS 13 this year may have more of an incentive than usual to keep using their old phones rather than upgrading to new ones.”

              Ken….very good article.  I feel better about iOS 13 now and will most likely upgrade.  Thank you.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #1971428

      Developer iOS 13.2 beta 1 with Deep Fusion camera Technology released.

    • #1971588

      AKB2000014: Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates has been updated Wednesday, October 2, 2019 to reflect the recent updates issued by Apple.

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    • #1973443

      Just a few days after releasing the 10th beta of macOS Catalina, Apple has released the macOS Catalina Golden Master. That’s just ahead of the expected public release tomorrow, October 4th.

      The macOS Catalina Golden Master is available now for those on the beta and is a good sign that Apple is indeed on track to release the latest macOS update to the public tomorrow, October 4th.

      https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/03/apple-releases-macos-catalina-10-15-gm-ahead-of-public-release/

    • #1976515

      macOS Catalina final.

      macOS Catalina now available, here are the top 7 new Mac features

      https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/07/macos-catalina-available-top-new-mac-features/

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxdkIcjn260

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    • #1978468

      Apple released watchOS 5.3.2 for the Apple Watch Series 4 connected to older iOS devices not receiving iOS 13 (not receiving WatchOS 6).

      https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/09/watchos-5-3-2-apple-watch-series-4/

    • #1978528

      iOS 13.2 beta 2, iPadOS 13.2 beta 2, watchOS 6.1 beta 3, and tvOS 13.2 beta 2 available for devs.

    • #1979245

      First developer beta of macOS 10.15.1.

    • #1979256

      Just a note from an iOS/macOS technician (worked at an aasp until fall 2017…)

       

      new iOS version (11.x.x 12.x.x 13.x.x) wait a month.  if you’re on 12.4.1 and your iPhone wants to go to 13.anything, wait a month.

      major iOS revision (12.3.x going to 12.4.x) wait two weeks.

      minor iOS revision (12.4.1 going to 12.4.2) wait a week.

      let the other folks be on the bleeding edge.  almost all the time, if there is an issue, Apple will address is pretty fast.  but older devices might have issues with the latest updates, give Apple a chance to fix it before you install.  staying within the last major version is a super good idea if your iPhone can handle it.

       

      for macOS, wait a week or two after the security update for your version of macOS pops up.  don’t just hit the “update” button, read what got fixed and maybe even go to macrumors.com and see what if anything got broken with the update.  if you’re an Adobe Creative Cloud or other big expensive software user, you know where to go to verify these updates won’t break your shiny.

       

      for versions of macOS, everyone should decide for themselves when to migrate.  wait at least 2 months after release, in my opinion.  unless you know and have practiced how to use disk utility or carbon copy cloner to make a bootable image of your Mac on an external drive, you have no business playing canary in the coal mine.  newer Mac laptops are ssd-soldered-down and lack the data recovery port on the logic board that the 2015 laptops showed up with.  so if your mac goes belly up the only solutions may be “erase and fresh install” or “replace the logic board” both of which blows away your data.  iMacs are mostly showing up with Fusion Drive so if those hiccup it’s “erase everything and rebuild from scratch – you have a current time machine backup don’t you?”

       

      when the new versions of the os come out, pay attention to stuff like “file system is now apfs not hfs+” and “time machine backups will be converted to the new format which may make the backup disk unreadable to older OS”.  that tsunami washed ashore with 10.14 and if people dedicate a backup disk to one machine, not a problem.  but for those of us with 16tb drobo raids for time machine and 7 macs, these details matter.  get a usb-c/thunderbolt3 disk and be happy with speedy new disk.

       

      just my .02.

       

      in conclusion, my day job is keeping Microsoft desktops and servers alive.  and every single computer I own is either Apple or has Linux on it.  I would rather experience an Apple update/version problem than ANY of the last two years of Microsoft screwups.

      Hey look! Another Feature Update!

      You mean I shouldn't click Check for Updates?

      Where is the Any key?

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      • #1987827

        cptomes…excellent post.  Your last paragraph is why I intend to switch to iMac instead of updating to Win 10.  Without Ask Woody, my Win 7 Dell PC would have been toast long ago.  The monthly Microsoft update issues are really getting old.   As to the iOS 13 issues that seem to be fairly widespread…I have elected to stay on iOS 12.4.1 until Gordon Kelly and his Forbes column give the green light.  I’m surprised that this Knowledge Base column isn’t covering the iOS 13 problems instead of so quickly recommending “Install”.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #1987948

          I’m surprised that this Knowledge Base column isn’t covering the iOS 13 problems instead of so quickly recommending “Install”.

          What iOS 13 problems ?

          I run beta versions of iOS (and now iPadOS) for years… never have I encountered any crashes, apps not launching, iOS not booting…

          Now on iOS/iPadOS 13.2 beta 3 (iPhone XS Max, iPad 10.5 Pro.)

          Staying on iOS 12 you lose security updates, lot of new features, you can’t update Apple Watch to WatchOS 6, you can’t connect to Apple Arcade,…

          Make a double backup to iCloud and local PC and upgrade to 13.1.3

          Better still, join the Beta group.

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    • #1981652

      Apple released rare update to AirPort utility.
      Users have reported problems with the AirPort Utility app on iOS 13.

      1.3.6 Oct 14, 2019
      This update includes general stability and security improvements

      https://apps.apple.com/us/app/airport-utility/id427276530

    • #1983225

      iOS 13.2 beta 3, iPadOS 13.2 beta 3, watchOS 6.1 beta 4, and tvOS 13.2 beta 3 released.

    • #1983967

      Apple released second developer beta of macOS Catalina 10.15.1

    • #1989442

      iOS 13.2 beta 4, iPadOS 13.2 beta 4, watchOS 6.1 beta 5, and tvOS 13.2 beta 4 released.

    • #1990634

      Third developer beta of macOS Catalina 10.15.1 released.

    • #1994360

      HomePod 13.2 released
      iOS 13.2 now available with Deep Fusion..
      iOS 12.4.3 released for iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPad Air, iPad Mini 2/3, and iPod touch 6th-gen

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    • #1994932

      This maybe odd: Today, 29 October, I have received the current update for Safari, but an old security update for my current version of macOS Mojave: Security Update 2019-0001 that, according to my search on the Web, came out in March. On the other hand, I have not received the Mojave Supplemental Update 2 that has been released today, or at least very recently and is now mentioned in the updated header of this thread.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #1994935

        This one was sneakly quiet. If you have it installed, under System Report\Software, you should have macOS 10.14 Mojave: 18G103. I didn’t even get asked about installing it.

        • #1994948

          Thanks, PK. I just checked as you advised, and verified  that I do have installed that version of Mojave, except it is listed as “macOS 10.14.8 18G103″ ” (the only difference with what you wrote being”.8″) . The kernel is “Darwin 18.7.0.

          Still no “Supplemental Update 2” in sight.

          So, should I just ignore Security Update 2019-0001? (I’ll be doing that anyway, until further notice.)

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #1994952

            I believe 18G103 is the second supplemental. See here.

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            • #1994994

              Thanks for the link: Now there is no doubt in my mind that I have Update 2 installed. So what is 2019-0001 doing here? I have never missed a single update sent by Apple since I installed Mojave, months ago.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #1995028

              I have just installed the Safari update to version 13.0.3, but did not choose to install  the 2019-0001 Mojave update also “waiting to install”, leaving it for a later occasion — or never. And what would you know? After the Safari install was done, I checked to see what was still waiting to install, and there was only Catalina there, no trace of 2019-0001… But now the version of Mojave has changed to “macOS 10.14.6 (18G1012)” (I probably misread (?), earlier, “.6” as “.8” .)

              Stranger and stranger…

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #1995035

              Sneaky things, those security updates from Apple!  🙂

            • #1995055

              @OscarCP
              Try again. There was too much HTML in that copy/paste to make it legible.

            • #1995071

              PKCano: Sorry about that! I thought, afterwards, that the html might be a problem, but was in something of a hurry, so I did not came back to edit it.

              Now, here it goes again:

              According to Wikipedia in Italian, the version now in my Mac (10.14.6 (18G1012)) is the latest one and was released today, 29 October 2019, 0 days ago (“0 giorni fa”)

              Sviluppatore Apple Inc.
              Famiglia SO Unix, BSD
              Release iniziale 10.14 Developer Beta 1 (4 giugno 2018; 16 mesi fa)
              Release corrente 10.14.6 (18G1012) (29 ottobre 2019; 0 giorni fa)

              But, according to the Wikipedia in English, it is still the version you mentioned (10.14.6 (18G103), released 31 days ago, as shown here:

              Developer: Apple Inc.
              OS family Macintosh Unix

              Source model Closed, with open source components
              Initial release September 24, 2018; 13 months ago.
              Latest release 10.14.6 (18G103) (September 26, 2019; 31 days ago)

              (Also, while the Italian version gives the Beta 1 release as the initial one, in June of last year, English Wikipedia gives the data of the actual Mojave official release to all users in September 2018, which is more to the point.)

              Maybe Wikipedia in English also needs a Mac update?

              And was update “2019-0001” just a cover name for the latest macOS update, released today, at least according to the Italian Wikipedia version? Sneaky, indeed!

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #1994966

            I’m not in a position to check my MacBook Air Mojave machine, but update 2 for Mojave was released on Sept. 26 and if I recall correctly a new version of it – still going by update 2 – was issued on Sept 29.

            On my iMac High Sierra, I was offered today supplemental update 6, so there may be a new round of MacOS (if that’s the correct current lingo for the Mac OS) updates out today. I can’t yet see any info for it on the Apple support page
            https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

            • #1995087

              DrBonzo: If 2019-0001 shows in your Mojave Mac along with the update of Safari to version 13.0.3 and you choose to install only the Safari one, 2019-0001 (apparently the latest Mojave update, disguised as an old update) will install itself also anyways, whether you want it or not. That happened to me a while ago, and it is still too early to tell if that is good or bad.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #1994943

        HomePod 13.2 released

        HomePod 13.2 has been pulled as the update bricked some HomePods which are being replaced at Apple Stores.

        macOS Catalina 10.15.1 released

        WathcOS 6.1 released (for Apple Watch 1 & 2 as well).

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    • #1995192

      The Mojave updates I’m being offered today are:

      • Security Update 2019-001 for 10.14.6
      • Safari 13.0.3

      Should I be seeing anything else?

      Nathan Parker

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    • #1996061

      Apple has released HomePod 13.2.1.

    • #2000304

      Apple released iOS 13.3, iPadOS 13.3, tvOS 13.3, and watchOS 6.1.1 betas.

    • #2000523

      iOS 13.3, iPadOS 13.3

      Public beta 1 is out.

    • #2001108

      iOS 13.2.2 released

      iOS 13.2.2 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

      Fixes an issue that could cause apps to quit unexpectedly when running in the background

      Resolves an issue where iPhone may temporarily lose mobile signal after a call

      Addresses an issue where mobile data may temporarily not be available

      Fixes an issue that caused replies to S/MIME encrypted email messages between Exchange accounts to be unreadable

      Addresses an issue where using Kerberos single sign-on service in Safari may present an authentication prompt

      Resolves an issue where charging may be interrupted on YubiKey Lightning-powered accessories

      https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/07/apple-releases-ios-13-2-2/

      iPadOS 13.2.2 released as well.

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    • #2001111

      macOS Catalina 10.15.2 beta 1 released.

    • #2002551

      For those of you with MacOS, some information:
      I have installed MacOS 10.15 on my 2012 iMac and 10.15.1 on my old 2012 13″ MacBook Pro (yes, the one that still had the slot DVD drive), both upgraded from Mojave. Both seem to be running normally on Catalina. Note that I do not use the built in apps like Safari, Mail, Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc with any frequency, so they have not been tested.

      32-bit Apps are no longer allowed. I had to uninstall Office 2011 and iWorks from the older MacBook Pro (even I had the latest Pages, Numbers, and Keynote installed) and some third-party apps from both machines. My old version of InSSIDer (Free) no longer worked.

      The change in SMB1 required some finagling to get my NAS drives reconnected. Change from:
      smb://<servername>/<sharename>
      to:
      smb://<servername>._smb._tcp.local/<sharename>

      Quite a few of my third-party apps had to be upgraded to a later version: TrendMicro AV, my file sync software, Parallels Desktop, Paragon NTFS for Mac, Adobe Reader, Calibre, Kindle app among them.
      The current versions of FireFox, WaterFox, Thunderbird, VLC Player and CCleaner seem to be OK.

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    • #2005060

      macOS 10.15.2 beta 2 released.

    • #2005395

      “Apple iOS 13.2.2 has landed and it’s both an essential upgrade and a negligent mess. Apple’s sixth rapid-fire update since September addresses the appalling performance problems introduced by iOS 13.2 but introduces new ones and ignores major ongoing issues.”
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/11/08/apple-ios-1322-release-should-you-upgrade-iphone-update/

      Above excerpt from Gordon Kelly with Forbes – last update to his report was Nov 8. Any thoughts as to his findings on the latest iOS 13.2.2 update? I’m running on 12.4.1 and there are no major issues on my iPhone or iPad with this iOS 12 update. I really would like to wait and see what iOS 13.3 has to offer in the way of stability. I understand it’s out in Beta now and planned for release in December.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

      • #2005405

        I updated from 13.2 to 13.2.2 a week ago (November 7) and I haven’t noticed any problems.

        I use the iOS Mail app for three Gmail accounts (all of which I set up as Other so that I could manually configure exactly as I wanted), but my iPhone 8 is a secondary device for email. My PC is the primary device so I don’t leave mail on the account. I delete it or move it to the hard drive of my PC. So I never use Search in the Mail app.

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    • #2005434

      “Apple iOS 13.2.2 has landed and it’s both an essential upgrade and a negligent mess. Apple’s sixth rapid-fire update since September addresses the appalling performance problems introduced by iOS 13.2 but introduces new ones and ignores major ongoing issues.”
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/11/08/apple-ios-1322-release-should-you-upgrade-iphone-update/

      Above excerpt from Gordon Kelly with Forbes – last update to his report was Nov 8. Any thoughts as to his findings on the latest iOS 13.2.2 update? I’m running on 12.4.1 and there are no major issues on my iPhone or iPad with this iOS 12 update. I really would like to wait and see what iOS 13.3 has to offer in the way of stability. I understand it’s out in Beta now and planned for release in December.

      Willygirl….I also follow Gordon Kelly as I do Woody.  Woody never recommends installing new updates when they first come out.  The sky won’t fall if you wait.  I subscribe to this same philosophy for iOS updates.  Until Gordon gives the OK, I’m not updating to iOS 13….iOS 12 works just fine for me.  I can live without dark mode.  While people have installed 13 without problems, there are definitely problems out there.  I’m not willing to play Russian roulette with my iPhone.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2005562

        I listen to what Nathan has to say here at Woody’s. But in the process of hitting on a current iOS update, I search around to get the findings of those who report in, this means there are various websites out there giving their rundown. But the bottom line is I wait for guidance from our MVP Nathan Parker to give a thumbs up or down. That’s when I make a final decision on whether to update my phone or other Apple devices. Nathan has a keen sense when updating seems logical. I wanted to throw that post in from Kelly because it raised some questions and concern.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2005436

      iOS/iPasOS 13.3 beta 2 released

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    • #2005437

      Gordon Kelly with Forbes – last update to his report was Nov 8. Any thoughts as to his findings

      Gordon Kelly is an Apple hater not to be trusted.

    • #2005443

      PKCano #2002551 : “I have installed MacOS 10.15 on my 2012 iMac and 10.15.1 on my old 2012 13″ MacBook Pro (yes, the one that still had the slot DVD drive), both upgraded from Mojave. Both seem to be running normally on Catalina. Note that I do not use the built in apps like Safari, Mail, Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc with any frequency, so they have not been tested.

      I only use Mail and none of the others in that list (although I keep all of them duly updated). Mail fulfills a very important function as an email client, when chosen to keep oneself in meaningful touch with others, so I am interested to know what PK finds out after trying it.

      Has anyone else who installed Catalina been using Mail afterwards? If so, how has that worked out?

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2005449

        I use Thunderbird as the mail client, since it is cross paltform: MacOS and Windows (and Linux too). That way I can have my contacts, mail, etc the same everywhere.

    • #2005446

      Apple AirPods Pro Firmware Update 2B588 Released.

    • #2008041

      iOS 13.2.3 / iPadOS 13.2.3 released :

      iOS 13.2.3 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone. This update:

      Fixes an issue where system search and search within Mail, Files, and Notes might not work
      Addresses an issue where photos, links, and other attachments might not display in the Messages details view
      Fixes an issue that could prevent apps from downloading content in the background
      Resolves issues that may prevent Mail from fetching new messages, and fail to include and quote original message content in Exchange accounts

      http://osxdaily.com/2019/11/18/ios-13-2-3-ipados-13-2-3-update-released-with-bug-fixes/

    • #2008570

      iOS 13.3 and iPadOS 13.3 beta 3

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    • #2008585

      macOS 10.15.2 beta 3 , TvOS 13.3, watchOS 6.1.1 beta 3

    • #2015955

      macOS Catalina 10.15.2 beta 4 released

    • #2015978

      iOS 13.3, iPadOS 13.3, tvOS 13.3 & watchOS 6.1.1 : 4th beta released.

    • #2017534

      Final iOS 13.3, watchOS 6.1.1, and tvOS 13.3 and Catalina 10.15.2

      Catalina :

      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT210642

      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201222

      HomePod OS 13.3

      Improves the ability of HomePod to recognize the voice profile of family members
      Allows individual family members to enable/disable personal requests
      Fixes an issue that could prevent music playback from resuming on a stereo pair after a phone call

      iOS 12.4.4 has been released for older iPhones with security and performance improvements. It is available for iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPad Air, iPad Mini 2/3, and iPod touch 6th-gen.

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    • #2018704

      There’s a new Safari update 13.0.4 for Mojave and High Sierra which I’ve installed successfully on each OS.

      Also Security Update 2019-002 for Mojave and 2019-007 for High Sierra both installed successfully.

      https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

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      • #2018720

        DrBonzo: A few days ago, I got a security updates for Safari (same one as you did) and for Mojave. The latter, strangely enough, had the same number as the current version of Mojave: 10.14.6…

        That made me suspicious, so I clicked in the little link in the popup with the update numbers, and it said there that it was a security update for Mojave 10.14.6 . So I shouted Geronimo! and clicked on “Update”. That happened (with the usual black screen, white apple, white loading line that sometimes moves backwards, etc. Eventually, it finished doing that and nothing bad has happened since then. So far. That I have noticed.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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    • #2020699

      iOS 13.3.1 beta 1 and iPadOS 13.3.1 beta 1 tvOS 13.3.1, macOS 10.15.3 released

      • This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by Alex5723.
    • #2020705

      AirPods and AirPods Pro updated with new firmware 2C54

    • #2021579

      AKB2000014 has been updated Dec. 19, 2019.

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    • #2084760

      iOS 13.3.1 beta 2, iPadOS 13.3.1 beta 2, macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta 2, watchOS 6.1.2 beta 2, and tvOS 13.3.1 beta 2

      Xcode 11.3.1

    • #2086548

      iOS 13.3.1 beta 2, iPadOS 13.3.1 beta 2, macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta 2, watchOS 6.1.2 beta 2, and tvOS 13.3.1 beta 2

      Xcode 11.3.1

      So iOS 13.3.1 beta 2 does have a new toggle to disable Ultra Wideband.

      https://twitter.com/BrandonButch/status/1218272838181949441

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    • #2100499

      macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta 3
      Beta 3 : iOS 13.3.1, iPadOS 13.3.1, watchOS 6.1.2, and tvOS 13.3.1

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    • #2111372

      Per this Ars Technica article:
      Apple releases iOS 13.3.1 and macOS Catalina 10.15.3
      … Apple has released:
      iOS 13.3.1
      iPadOS 13.3.1
      macOS Catalina 10.15.3
      watchOS 6.1.2
      tvOS 13.3.1

    • #2111384

      I have installed, just now, macOS Mojave Security Update 2020-001 and now can say with confidence that the Mac is still alive and, as proof of that, I am typing this note on its very own keyboard. Whether, besides of alive, it is also well, remains to be seen.

      As usual, the patching took a while to get done, first to download all of the 1.61 GB of warm and quivering update flesh, then almost as long to install it, going through the usual: the machine turning itself off, on again, off again, always with a black screen surrounding an economical view of a white apple and a white loading bar very, very slowly progressing and, sometimes, receding, etc., etc.

      You should try it and experience the thrill of wondering how long to wait before declaring the process has failed and one needs to get a new Mac, and hope, if such is the case, that the last backup you made also included the current version of the software you have been developing and on which you have spent so many moons already trying to get it to work right — and it looked like you might have finally succeeded, just before this inconvenience happened.

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      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2111494

      AKB2000014 has been updated January 28, 2020.

    • #2123855

      iOS 12.4.5 OTA for :

      iPhone 6
      iPhone 6 Plus
      iPhone 5S
      iPad mini 3
      iPad Air, iPad mini 2
      iPod touch 6th-generation

      IPSW downloads at https://ipsw.me/

    • #2123884

      The 2020-002 update for macOS has not showed up for me, yet, when checking in System Preferences/Software Update. Nor has an also announced Safari update for mi current version: 13.0.5 (14608.5.12).

      The only thing waiting to be downloaded and installed is Catalina, something I won’t be doing for several more months.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2125139

      AKB2000014 has been updated February 3, 2020.

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    • #2135326

      developer betas of macOS Catalina 10.15.4, iOS 13.4. iPadOS 13.4, watchOS 6.2, and tvOS 13.4.

    • #2153172

      watchOS 6.1.3 for iOS 13 and watchOS 5.3.5 for iOS 12.

      https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

    • #2153853

      Dev Beta 2 : iOS 13.4, macOS 10.15.4, watchOS 6.2, and tvOS 13.4

    • #2154050

      Dev Beta 2 : iOS 13.4, macOS 10.15.4, watchOS 6.2, and tvOS 13.4

      Public beta 2 out.

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    • #2264648

      AKB200014 has been updated May 21, 2020

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    • #2269344

      AKB2000014 has been updated June 4. 2020.

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    • #2269444

      I just installed 2020-003 and one Safari update. I do not use Safari, but prefer to keep it up to date all the same. The Mac is still alive and maybe even well. Thanks, PK.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2269735

        I’ve successfully installed 2020-003 on my Mojave.

        I am new with macOS, is there a history of updates installed like Windows? I can only find Mojave 10.14.6 no supplemental updates.

        While I’m at it, is Safari baked in like IE in Windows 7?

        • #2269758

          bassmanzam: I have had a Mac now for about three years and, in this time, have moved from the Mac Operating System (*) major release the Mac came with: “Sierra”, to “Mojave” (skipping the intermediate “High Sierra.”)

          So, since I bought the Mac, in mid-2017, I have installed one new operating system (“Mojave”) and also several (something like 10, or an average of just over 3 a year) point releases and security patches. For a while there was a problem with one update to “High Sierra” in a government computer that I have to use for work, but have experienced none in my own Mac, updating its software as outlined above.

          As to Safari: there are very occasional security updates and also what I would call “improvement” ones (to fix bugs, add new features, that sort of thing), but nothing that happens regularly, unlike what is the case with Internet Explorer.

          Generally speaking, for me updating (so far) has been a very low-key and infrequent event, unlike with Windows. I hear that “Catalina”, still the latest major Operating System release, is creating some more trouble for users than those previous versions of  macOS I have mentioned. I believe that it has to do with “Catalina” being a major overhaul of macOS. I hope that things will settle down after some more months have gone by. Then I might move from “Mojave” to “Catalina.”

          I close by saying that it is a good idea to follow what PKCano and Nathan Parker post in “Forums/Non-Windows Operating Systems/macOs”  and “…/iOs” section of “AskWoody” about patches, updates and related news of interest to users.

          (*) Or macOS that, until a few years ago, was called OS X.

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          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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          • #2269965

            OscarCP: Not sure if you can answer this but how long will Mojave get security updates? And when will we be forced to upgrade to Catalina?

            • #2269969

              I’m not OscarCP but here’s how it generally works. A new version of macOS comes out every Fall, usually around September, October, maybe even November. There are usually 3 versions of macOS that are supported at any given time. Right now those 3 versions from oldest to newest are High Sierra, Mojave, and Catalina. This coming Fall, a new version of macOS will come out, and High Sierra will get bumped off the list of supported macOS versions, leaving Mojave, Catalina, and New Version as the 3 supported versions (from oldest to newest). Following the pattern means that Mojave support will end in the Fall of 2021.

              There may be some finer points to this but that’s basically how it works.

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            • #2269986

              bassmanzam: Sorry I just got here and saw your question. I also see that DrBonzo has answered it quite fully.

              For my part, as I mentioned in my previous post, I am still running Mojave. Seeing that Catalina is having a bumpy ride, I am waiting for the bumps to get smoothed out. If necessary I am quite ready to bypass Catalina and wait for the next major update of macOS that, as DrBonzo mentions, will follow Catalina.

              That would be later this year, some time in the early Fall, if past history of such releases is still applicable to this future one. Apple does not have a published written policy, at least that I know of, on matters having to do with the updates of its software, so one has to go by what experience has shown to have repeatedly happened in the past.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2269762

          Pull down the black Apple logo menu (upper left of screen). Choose About This Mac, then click the System Report button. In the left panel of the resulting screen, scroll down to Software and expand it and choose Installations. On the right you’ll see all the programs installed on your machine. Scroll down far enough and you should see the Security Updates that have been installed.

          I’m not sure about Safari, but I don’t think it’s part of the macOS operating system in the sense that IE 11 is an integral part of Windows. On the other hand, I would assume that macOS uses Safari to download some of what I call ‘stealth’ security patches (there are patches that Apple pushes out and installs automatically – well, depending on your system prefs – and are typically pretty small)

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    • #2269590

      You’re update for iOS 13.5.1 says “Install. Wait for Testing”.  Which is it?  Safe to install or wait for further testing?  Thank you.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2269592

        Ooops. Should be only “WAIT for testing.” “INSTALL” didn’t get deleted in the edit.

        Nathan is going to test this weekend. If no problems, it will change to INSTALL next week.

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    • #2269597

      You’re update for iOS 13.5.1 says “Install. Wait for Testing”.  Which is it?  Safe to install or wait for further testing?  Thank you.

      If you want to jailbreak stay away from 13.5.1

      iOS 13.5.1 is stable. No problems at all on my iPhone XS Max or iPad 10.5″

      I am currently on iOS 13.5.5 beta

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      • #2269606

        I’ve had no problems with iOS 13.5.1 since installing the other day. Not into jailbreak so it’s all good here.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2269610

      I updated SWMBO iphone 6 from 12.4.6 to 12.4.7 without issue a while back. Other than the initial indexing after the update, her battery life and iphone experience is still silky smooth. stable and more secure.

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2269612

      Ooops. Should be only “WAIT for testing.” “INSTALL” didn’t get deleted in the edit.

      Nathan is going to test this weekend. If no problems, it will change to INSTALL next week.

      I wait for you instead of Gordon Kelly on Forbes.  Thanks, PK.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2269617

      I wait for you instead of Gordon Kelly on Forbes.

      Gordon Kelly on Forbes has no idea what iOS is.

    • #2272086

      PKCano….any status update on iOS 13.5.1?  Some of the online reviews are a little iffy, so I’m waiting for Nathan’s testing results.  FYI, I updated my iMac to 10.15.5 Supplemental before I noticed you hadn’t moved this to install.  That was about 2 weeks ago and I’m experienced no problems with my rather simple uses with the Mac…email and internet lookups.  Thank you.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2272087

        My 5 Macs and MacBooks are also on 10.15.5 Supp. with no problems. (3 Ivy Bridge, 1 Haswell, 1 Kaby Lake)
        I don’t have anything recent enough for iOS 13 (iPhone 6 and iPan Mini 2(

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      • #2272091

        any status update on iOS 13.5.1?

        I’ve posted that iOS 13.5.1 seems stable for my iPhone 8Plus. Still having battery drain issues with the iPadOS 13.5.1. But it isn’t anything for me to worry about. I use it frequently but it drains quicker now on this current OS.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2272102

      any status update on iOS 13.5.1?

      I’ve posted that iOS 13.5.1 seems stable for my iPhone 8Plus. Still having battery drain issues with the iPadOS 13.5.1. But it isn’t anything for me to worry about. I use it frequently but it drains quicker now on this current OS.

      I am on 13.6 beta 2 on iPhone Max and iPad 10.5″ Pro.
      Every thing runs smooth with 0 problems.

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    • #2276134

      13.5.1 may have an issue that is preventing my iPhone 6S from syncing the Recents call log with Bluetooth in my car.  When I delete a Recent in the call log, it is not deleted in Bluetooth.  I know iOS 13 has had Bluetooth issues.  I have tried iPhone Settings>Bluetooth>iPhone “Forget This Device and also deleting my iPhone from Setup>Bluetooth in the car.  These steps have not fixed the problem.  Has anyone experienced this with iOS 13 and did you come up with a fix…beside waiting for iOS 14?  Other iPhone Bluetooth features appear to be working. Thank you.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2281450

      Anyone seeing Security update 2020-004 for Mojave?

      Is this safe to install?

      • #2281453

        I’m seeing it along with an update for Safari. They’ve been out for a couple days. There’s only one or two holes that get patched in the 004 update so it’s probably pretty safe, although I haven’t installed it yet; might install it tomorrow.

        https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211289

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        • #2281585

          Thanks DrBonzo.  From what I can tell there is only one hole plugged…Vim. If I remember correctly Vim is a text editor. Why then is the security update 1.67GB? Just guessing here but is the security update cumulative like the Monthly Rollup in Windows 7?

           

           

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          • #2281647

            I don’t know why the updates are so big, but if I recall correctly, all of the Mojave updates have been about 1.7 GB. I’ve never had the impression that security updates were/are cumulative, but that’s just an impression (or lack thereof)

            In any case, I just installed the 004 update on a MacBook Air running Mojave. No issues. It seems the update was already downloaded. After clicking Restart it only took about 12 minutes until I was back to the login screen. That’s a lot faster than normal.

            Also installed the Safari update on the same machine with no issues.

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      • #2281462

        Fastest way to install the updates:

        Click on the black apple at the top left corner of the screen, then, in the box that opens, click on “Check for Updates”; that will open a new box with a button to install Catalina, below it will say “Other updates are available/More information” Click on “More Information” and it will open a last dialog box with “Security update 2020-004” and “Safari” with an “Install Now” button at the lower right corner of the dialog box. Click on that if you are going to install both updates. Or you can uncheck the box next to the name of one update and install the other. Or wait to install anything, as I intend to do, until the situation becomes more clear.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2281587

          Thanks OscarCP. I’ll give it a few days before installing too.

          I still haven’t decided about Catalina. Maybe I’ll give it a try in late August.

    • #2281708

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/19/2020.

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      • #2282580

        Today, 22 July, I’ve installed both the 2020-004 patch for Mojave and the Safari patch offered at the same time. Everything I use regularly seems to be working fine. (The text on the 2020-004 patch has changed to “INSTALL.”)

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2282658

          OscarCP…if you’ve stayed with Mojave, do you continue to have the badge alert for the Catalina update? What are your plans for Big Sur? I bought my iMac earlier this year and it came with Catalina. I know nothing else about Mac OS.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

          • #2282712

            pmcjr6142 : Yes, I continue to get those alerts and one red dot on the “Software Update” icon on the Dock indicating there is a macOS update waiting.

            My plan, as always, is to watch and learn.

            Right now I have no worries about staying with Mojave and I think it is likely I’ll skip Catalina and watch what happens after Big Sur is deployed. It will be only some months after Big Sur is finally released that I’ll decide whether to install it, or not, depending on what I hear from those who do. If, in the end, I decide not to install Big Sur, then it is likely I will install Catalina, so a year and some months from now, when the next macOS version following Big Sur comes out, I’ll still have a supported version of this OS. And keep on watching and learning.

            There is also an interesting possibility worth looking into, discussed by Alex and Nathan, of installing Big Sur in a separate partition of the HD or SSD in a way that makes it possible to switch between them and, in this way, move gradually to Catalina or to Big Sur while retaining the fall back option of using Mojave.

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2282766

      Just installed Security Update 2020-004 for Mojave on my Macbook air. No real issues.

      Hope to update Safari tomorrow

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    • #2288355

      iOS 13.6.1 Update and OS 10.15.6 Supplemental Update announced.  Will wait for OK to install.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2288993

      AKB2000014 has been updated 8/16/2020.

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    • #2294214

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/6/2020.

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    • #2297369

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/18/2020.

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    • #2297392

      An article today in Ars Technica about iOS 14 on iPhone 6S and the original iPhone SE:

      iOS 14 on the iPhone 6S and SE: Performance is fine, other stuff is not

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    • #2297393

      Here’s another article from Ars Technica.  This one is about privacy enhancements in iOS 14.

      A bevy of new features makes iOS 14 the most secure mobile OS ever

    • #2297417

      An article today in Ars Technica about iOS 14 on iPhone 6S and the original iPhone SE:

      iOS 14 on the iPhone 6S and SE: Performance is fine, other stuff is not

      Thank you for posting this.  Makes me feel better about getting a little more use out of my 6S.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2298703

      iOS 14.0.1 and iPadOS 14.0.1 have been released, including fixing the bug that on power-cycling would reset changes to the default browser and email apps.

      Apple’s first iOS update after iOS 14 just hit, and it fixes resetting app defaults

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    • #2299858

      Any feedback on iOS 14.01 or MacOS 10.15.7?  I’m holding off for the OK to install.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2299860

        I have Nathan’s updates. As soon as I have the time to update the AKB……

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    • #2300081

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/30/2020.

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    • #2300146

      As far as I know, Apple stopped supporting Sierra on November 30th of last year. I am trying to understand better how “support” works with Macs. So why is Sierra getting this update as well?

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      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2300154

        Please tell me where you see that Sierra is getting “this update.”

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        • #2300160

          Up in the latest list of updates posted at the start of this thread:

          Previous Versions: macOS Sierra 10.12.6 Security Update INSTALL

          And here:

          https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210589

          where there is a list of all these recent updates and its says this is the update for Sierra:

          macOS 10.12 Sierra: 16G2136

          Although it is not the same name for this update as for the others. Still, it is getting updated.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2300162

            If I read that right, the date on that link is Sept 2019.

            • #2300167

              Actually that link is also in the words “Security Update“, between the words “Sierra” and “INSTALL” in the entry I already copied from the top of this thread. For some reason it appears as regular text in my copy, but it is up there, as brown as brown can be. Very interesting. Maybe someone could correct this by removing that unrelated line of text?

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2300170

              Did you even click on the “brown” so see what it was?

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            • #2300186

              Yes, that is what I did. That line was unexpected to me, Sorry I was not clearer about “this update.” I thought “Sierra” was over and done with as far as Apple was concerned. So I wanted to understand this and that is why wrote my initial question/comment.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2300172

              let us know how the update goes 🙂

              If debian is good enough for NASA...
            • #2300178

              Maybe someone could correct this by removing that unrelated line of text?

              It’s not unrelated. It says “Previous version”

            • #2300181

              Thanks. So, even if a macOS version is no longer supported, one can still get updates already released when it was supported. Good to know.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2300180

      Curioser and curioser: Recently there was a macOS security update 2020-005 for, among other versions, Mojave, the one I am running at the moment. It was listed in my Mac’s “System Preferences/Software Update” along with Catalina, but now it is not longer there.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2300191

        Oops. Missed the updates for Mojave and High Sierra.
        They were not the list Nathan sent me for updates.
        I have added those two.
        Thanks for the heads-up on that.
        Sierra is not included in the current documentation.

        And there is nothing in the linked documentation that says this:

        So, even if a macOS version is no longer supported, one can still get updates already released when it was supported.

        • #2300203

          Thanks, PK, Please, find out and let us know.

          As to Sierra, well, I assumed that if was listed up there, in the initial comment with the other systems, that meant it was still “patchable”. Could not think of any other reason for it to be listed up there.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2300211

            That is Nathan’s AKB. I just do the grunt work on it when he notifies me with a list to be updated (because he can’t access the Edit). Those two weren’t on his list this time.

            There may be some people still on Sierra that need access to the documentation. That is not a link to download and update like AKB200003. It is documentation.

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    • #2300278

      Per the Install recommendation, I installed 14.01 (having held off on 14.o) and 10.15.7.  No installation problems and all seems well.  Not overly excited with the Widgets and certainly not the App Library.  I do these updates largely for the Security improvements.  Thanks again to Nathan and PK.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2300325

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/01/2020 to a WAIT on the Mojave and High Sierra Security Patches 2020-005.
      Apple has apparently pulled the Mojave patch.

    • #2300575

      Interesting article in The Verge about some people experiencing battery drain on iPhones and Apple Watches after installing iOS 14 and watchOS 7.  This is NOT fixed in iOS 14.0.1.

      If iOS 14 is causing battery drain, you might need to wipe your iPhone

      I haven’t upgraded from iOS 13.7 yet and I guess I’ll wait a while longer.

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      • #2300581

        Haven’t had any problems with battery drain on my iPhone 8 Plus, or the 2020 SE, updated both to iOS 14.0.1 the other night. Only thing that went wrong was me at the controls for JavaScript. Don’t turn it off, websites don’t like it when it isn’t active. I kinda knew this but I’m a maniac sometimes with these devices.

        I don’t understand why The Verge is creating panic with their headlines “… You may have to wipe your iPhone …” if you upgrade. Crazy. But if you feel best holding off then do it. iOS 14.0.1 on the two iPhones is running fine so far, I’ll post an update if it messes up. I’m still on iPadOS 13.7. Just haven’t had the time, I’ll wait until the next update then do everything at the same time once we get the all clear.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #2300588

          Did you miss the word “some” (in my post) and the words “if” and “might” (in the headline)?

          I don’t know if I would have a problem or not.  But there’s nothing in iOS 14 that I desperately want, so I’ll play it safe and wait.

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          • #2300596

            Did you miss the word “some” (in my post) and the words “if” and “might” (in the headline)?

            I missed nothing. 😉 The word “none” appeals to me or rather not to even mention “wipe”. Haha. The folks here have given us the thumbs up to “Install” iOS 14.0.1. Your choice. No need to get cranky 😬

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

      • #2300687

        Interesting article in The Verge about some people experiencing battery drain on iPhones and Apple Watches after installing iOS 14

        See my post from another discussion

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2300650

      Interesting article in The Verge about some people experiencing battery drain on iPhones and Apple Watches after installing iOS 14 and watchOS 7.  This is NOT fixed in iOS 14.0.1.

      If iOS 14 is causing battery drain, you might need to wipe your iPhone

      I haven’t upgraded from iOS 13.7 yet and I guess I’ll wait a while longer.

      I don’t have any battery drain on both Apple Watch 5 (WatchOS 7.1 beta 2) and iPhone XS Max (iOS 14.2 beta 2) nor has any with previous WatchOS iOS versions.

      28 hours after charging both batteries show 45% for the iPhone and 44% for the watch.

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    • #2301252

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/05/2020.

      Nathan has advised, if there has been no uproar as of Monday, Oct 5, to mark the October 1, 2020 reissued Supplemental Updates for Mojave 10.14.6 and High Sierra 10.13.6 as “INSTALL.”

      Since I have heard no screams, I have done so.

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    • #2303612

      Nathan Parker…thank you for the good writeup of your iOS 14 impressions in Woody’s Oct. 11 Newsletter.  You mentioned how to quickly switch to speakerphone from the new incoming call banner.  To solve this for me, I reverted to the pre iOS 14 full page notification instead of the new banner.  I found this in Settings>Phone>Incoming Calls.  Since I always use speaker anyway, I found a setting I didn’t know about that was there pre 14 to always answer calls in speaker mode.  This is in Settings>Accessibility>Touch>Call Audio Routing…turn on Speaker. Apparently, this setting used to be in General, but with iOS 14, Accessibility is a separate line item in Settings.  I wish I had known about this before.  I don’t mean to tell you something you didn’t know, but maybe, like me, these settings will be useful to someone.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2303805

      Apple Releases watchOS 7.0.2

      watchOS 7.0.2 contains improvements and bug fixes, including:
      – Addresses an issue that could cause the battery to drain more quickly
      – Resolves an issue that prevented some users from accessing the ECG app in regions where it is available

    • #2305989

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/21/2020 to cover iOS 14.1, iPadOS 14.1 and Watch 7.0.2

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      • #2306132

        I went ahead and installed 14.1, but apparently it reintroduces the bug in iOS 14 where your choice of default mail and browser apps is reset. After installing iOS 14.1, whenever your chosen third party email and browser apps update, your selections will be removed and revert to Apple Mail and Safari. I checked these settings and mine had reverted from Gmail and Chrome back to Mail and Safari.  My guess is that after 14.01 and when Gmail and Chrome apps updated after the 14.01 install, my settings did change back to the defaults.  I changed them again tonight to Gmail and Chrome.  When these apps update again I’ll check the settings.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2310119

      New iOS and Catalina Updates…has anyone installed iOS 14.2 and/or Catalina 10.15.7 Supplemental and experienced problems.  Will wait for Nathan, but I haven’t seen anything out of the ordinary being reported.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2310157

        I was running 14.2 (iPhone/iPad) dev versions for weeks. No problems.

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    • #2311211

      KB2000014 has been updated 11/11/2020

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    • #2311952

      Anyone running Mojave see the following updates:

      Security update 2020-006 and Safari 14.0.1

      I think I’ll wait a week or so to see if there is any fallout.

      • #2311964

        I’m not running Mojave anymore but I was offered Safari 14.0.1 on a macBook Air and an iMac, both running Catalina. Installed it on both with no problems.

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    • #2311969

      I just checked and Big Sur is now waiting to install (and I intend to keep it waiting). There is also a new security update (2020-06) for Mojave and High Sierra: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211946

      I am going to wait to install it, as usual, for a couple of weeks, or until I hear enough times that it is OK to install.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2312035

      KB2000014 has been updated 11/15/2020 to include MacOS 11.0.1 Big Sur and security Update 2020-006 for MacOS Mojave 10.14.6 and MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6

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      • #2312216

        I’ve never done a major OS update before as my iMac is only nine months old and working fine with Catalina.  I’m nervous about a Big Sur upgrade and will probably wait for 11.1 at least.  If you don’t upgrade, will you continue to get Catalina security updates as the other older OS just got? I assume you don’t have to upgrade and your Mac will still be OK.  For those of you that do upgrade, please post success or problem issues. Thanks.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2312219

          I’d let Big Sur sit for a while and get the kinks out before upgrading.
          I am on Catalina on my 5 Macs, all are Intel based.
          Three of them (2012 13″ MacBook Pro, 2012 iMac, and 2012 MacMini) are Ivy Bridge i7s and won’t be eligible for Big Sur. They will continue to get security updates for three years, though.
          My 15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7) and my iMac4K (Kaby Lake i7) are eligible, but I am in no hurry this time to update. Both will receive security updates for three years.
          I am running Parallels VMs on all the Intel Macs, and I have questions about where the interaction with Windows is headed. My workhorse is the almost 9 year old MacMini, and I’m concerned about replacing the Intel chip with an M1 chip at this point because of the Intel/M1 incompatibility.

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    • #2312245

      2012 13″ MacBook Pro… They will continue to get security updates for three years

      Only 11 years of support? Swoon!

      cheers, Paul

      • #2312249

        Yeah. And the parts are replaceable on the 13″ (swapped HDD for a 512 SSD, 4GB RAM for 16GB). And has a slot loaded DVD drive.  And has USB-3, firewire, mini display, RJ45 ethernet ports, headphone jack, SD card slot.

    • #2313034

      After several days without noticing any complaints about something definitely bad about it, I have gone ahead and installed the latest security update 2020-006 for my current operating system: Mojave.

      Then I have run several tests and everything seems OK.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2313335

      Just checking in…

      Installed security update 2020-006 for Mojave without any issues.

      Will install the Safari update in a day or so.

      One thing I noticed in the last 2 security updates.  It seems the update was already downloaded since it went directly to “restart to install”.

       

      • #2313419

        Check your settings in System Preferences. Read carefully. I think there is a difference between the upgrading type updates and the Security updates.

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        • #2313431

          I believe this setting is in Software Update>Advanced

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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          • #2313503

            So, do I uncheck “Download new updates when available” ?

            Also, “Install system data files and  security updates” is checked. Is this ok?

             

            • #2313504

              That’s up to you.
              I have mine set to check for updates, but I have download new updates unchecked b/c I want to be able to download when I want to, not when I’m busy using the bandwidth. Even though I have this on manual, I keep my system up to date  as soon as OS updates are safe, just like on Windows.
              I also have checked the box to install system data and. security updates.

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            • #2313505

              Thanks PKCano!!

              I will uncheck “Download new updates when available.”

              I will also leave “install system data files and security updates”
              checked.

               

    • #2315710

      PK Cano….Like you suggested in your KB article OS update description, I’ll wait for 11.1 to update to Big Sur.  The first point update. Even with your install recommendation when that comes, I’ll be nervous given it will be my first OS update coming from Catalina which was preinstalled on my iMac.  I’ve kept it current during 2020.  In addition to an “Install” recommendation, could you add these comments plus your own thoughts, please:  1.)  Is it worth the install given the changes and enhancements.  2.)  Any recommended steps for the install to go smoothly, eg, close all windows and Quit open apps, etc.  3.) How long did the download and install take ?

      Thank you.  A lot of us really depend on your recommendations and advice.

      Paul

       

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2315714

        I’m still on Catalina with my 5 Macs: iMac, MacMini, 13″ MacBook Pro, 15″MacBook Pro, and iMac4K.
        The first three of mine are 2012 Ivy Bridge i7s – not eligible for Big Sur. So Catalina for the next 3 years.
        The other two – 15″ MacBook Pro Haswell i7 and an iMac4 Kaby Laie i7 are running Parallels VMs with various Win versions. I am not sure I want to try that on the first-out Big Sur. I think I’ll hold out with the Intel talking to Intel until I know how the other is going to work.

        In the past (my older ones started with Lion and Mountain Lion) the upgrades have not had any problems. It takes a bit longer that the incremental updates, but that’s no biggie.

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      • #2319755

        @pmcjr6142 – Hope this isn’t too late, but regarding your question 2) above, make sure you quit everything that’s running. Don’t just close or minimize windows, quit or exit everything. The only thing you probably can’t quit is the Finder. The one time I got in a bit of trouble was when I went from Sierra to High Sierra on an iMAC. I had forgotten to quit a program, and I got a warning to that effect and was given about 3 seconds to quit. By the time I finished reading the warning, the display went grey (a GSOD – grey screen of death) and hung there for over two hours. I finally forced a shutdown, waited about 10 minutes and powered back up, at which point the update continued successfully.

        Also, give yourself plenty of time. The Big Sur update looks to be about 12 GB and could take between a half hour to an hour just to download it. Then give yourself another hour or two for the installation/restart. My iMAC is a base model: 8 GB RAM, and a 1TB hard drive (non-SSD, and non-Fusion), so it may be slower than yours if you’ve got better specs.

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        • #2320050

          Dr. Bonzo….excellent advice.  Thank you.  I’m waiting for the go ahead here, but will still be nervous.  My iMac is the same as yours…a base 2019 model.  I’ll be sure to follow your advice to install.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2319701

      I just received notice that two updates, one for my version of macOS, Mojave, the other for Safari have been released:

      Mojave 2020-007 and Safari 10.14.6

      I am going to wait several days before installing them, in case there is news of early installings causing problems.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2319864

      In the past two days, I have installed the latest Catalina 10.15.7 Supplement and the Safari update on all 5 of my Macs (3 Ivy Bridge, 1 Haswell, 1 Kaby Lake, all i7s) with no problems. All run Parallels VMs with various versions of Windows.

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      • #2324092

        Over the last few days I also installed those same 2 updates on an iMAC and a macBook Air. The Catalina update went in just fine.

        The Safari update, which I installed separately and before the Catalina update, hung for more than 5 minutes when the progress bar said there were about 2 seconds left, and then said the installation failed. However, when I opened Safari, everything seemed just fine and it said version 14.0.2 (that’s the version it was supposed to be) was running

    • #2321268

      AKB2000014 has been updated 12/20/2020

      • #2321371

        PK Cano….OK, too late to install today,  but I’ve been waiting for this go ahead.  How much time do you estimate from start to finish on a 2019 base iMac?  I want to make sure I allow enough time without stressing out during the process and to be  completely rested and calm before pulling the trigger.  I didn’t do 11.0.1 and have waited for this 11.1 green light.  This will be my first OS update.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2321373

          I am still on Catalina. 3 of 5 of my Macs are too old for Big Sur and I am running Parallels VMs with Windows on all of them. So between those two reasons, I’m not moving on the two eligible yet.

          Nathan has a Topic on his experience with Big Sur – and I’m sure there are others.

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    • #2321622

      For those still on the 11.1 fence, I went ahead and installed it today.  Here are the particulars so far.  The program software took 21 minutes to download and the install after several starts and stops took 74 minutes.  All in all much faster than the early adopters, but then my iMac is a 10 month old base model with Malwarebytes, Chrome, Firefox,  and my HP printer as the only 3rd party software.  Chrome seems slow right now, but I believe this should improve as everything settles down.  No Menu bar items or Dock items changed.  They’re all there as before.  The stock Desktop picture is just wavy colors and way too bright.  Be prepared to change that.  All in all, so far so good.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2322166

      It’s been now a week since Mojave 2020-007 and Safari 10.14.6 showed up in my Mac, that is still running Mojave.

      Has anybody heard yet of anything deleterious in these patches causing problems for people like me when they installed these two updates? And many heartfelt thanks to anyone that brings to my attention any helpful information on this particular.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2324462

        Seeing that it’s been over 2 weeks since Security Update 2020-007 for Mojave came out I decided to take the plunge and went ahead and installed.

        No issues to report. Took only 15 minutes to download and install. Had to be patient at times as it rebooted 3 or 4 times.

        I will install the Safari update soon.

        I’m running a MacBook Air by the way.

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    • #2325428

      I have had the same experience as baasmanzam, yesterday night, at least while installing the Mojave security update 2020-007 and, unlike baasmanzam, also the one for Safari.

      But after testing the effects of the update by running all the applications I would regularly use, I found some changes in how a few of them work now:

      My default browser Waterfox used to have some problems when using sites at, for example, Amazon Prime and Netflix to stream videos from there, and these problems now seem to have have disappeared.

      Which is good.

      In Office for Macs 2016 (I still use it, having not replaced it with “2019” for lack of motivation):

      Older Excel files in the “XLS” format, so they are automatically opened in “Compatibility” mode, I still can edit just fine. But when I open them, they appear so far to the right of the screen that only a tiny strip of its left edge shows up there. Then I have to grab them from the top of that strip and drag them towards the middle of the screen, until they are fully visible. This never happened before installing this Mojave update.

      Which is not great.

      Word DOCX files (the only kind I have in the Mac) open fine, but the letters looked tiny, even when originally I created them with the font size set to 12 points, and it is still supposed to be that, according to the font information in the ribbon. Using “Zoom” in “View”, in the old-fashioned menu bar, one can make them large enough to read without problems and also of about the right size for a 12-point font. After I did this in one Word file, all others I have opened so far at least, even though they may be in different directories, now look also OK.

      Which is good, but not altogether great.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2338936

      AKB2000014 has been updated 1/31/2021.

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    • #2339572

      Big Sur 11.2 is out today. I’m not an early adopter.  Will wait for an OK to install.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2339617

      Also security update 2021-001 for each of Mojave 10.14.6 and Catalina 10.15.7.

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      • #2339636

        I received 2021-001 for Mojave. As usual, I’ll wait some weeks before installing and keep paying attention to reports of problems.

        Also Sierra has received a security update!

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2342905

          I am currently only offered 2021-002 on my macOS Mojave. I never installed 2021-001 as I was holding off a bit.

          Is 2021-001 “rolled up” in 2021-002 or did I miss the boat?

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          • #2342919

            bassmanzam: You probably have to install 2021-001 first. If you cannot find it any longer with your “updates” utility (the one with the gears in the icon) you can get it from Apple here:

            https://support.apple.com/kb/DL2069?locale=en_US

            However, after you download this update and before doing anything else, I would suggest sending a Direct Message to Nathan Parker addressing it to parkernathan and ask him if it is OK to go and install it before 2021-002.

            Good luck.

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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            • #2342921

              Please don’t suggest DM. If it is not OK to ask on the forum, don’t ask it.

              cheers, Paul

            • #2342932

              Thanks for clarifying this issue. I was not sure, so I went ahead and mentioned Nathan’s. I hope no harm was done.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2343179

              Thanks OscarCP!

              Are you being offered both 2021-001 and 2021-002 ?

              Also, are you still waiting to update?

              I am hoping Nathan will chime in about these updates!

          • #2342925

            I can’t guarantee this but I believe the security updates for macOS are cumulative. On my Catalina MacBook Air I was offered Security Update 2021-001 with a size of about 1.34 GB back on Feb 1 and then yesterday I was offered just the supplemental update with the same size (I had not yet installed the Feb 1 Security Update). There are only a couple of vulnerabilities that are fixed in the newer Supplemental Update, so the fact that both are the same size leads me to think that the updates are cumulative.

            Just found this which seems to support my contention.

            https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/407764/are-macos-mojave-security-updates-cumulative

            I would probably wait, though, for confirmation from one of our Mac experts (PKCano, Nathan Parker, probably some others as well).

            Edit: In light of PaulT’s message I’m not suggesting a DM. I’m sure they’ll read this thread and respond as they see fit.

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            • #2343180

              Thanks DrBonzo!

              I think you may be right that these security updates are cumulative.  But it would be nice to get confirmation from Nathan or PKCano!

               

               

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          • #2344968

            Just checking in. I installed the Mojave Security Update 2021-002 on my MacBook Air.  Seems to install smoothly and only about 15 minutes.

            Will install Safari update soon.

    • #2341287

      Anyone updated to 11.2?  I haven’t seen much feedback on any problems.  Apple has moved on to the 11.3 Beta.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2341537

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/7/2021. Changes made for macOS Big Sur, Catalina, and Mojave.

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    • #2342934

      By the way, I just updated, because it was time to do so, from Mojave to Catalina a government MacBook Pro ca. 2019 I use to work from home and nothing seems to have been lost or be malfunctioning that I have noticed. I am keeping my Mac laptop on Mojave until sometime this summer, when I’ll make the jump to BigSur, because I am in the third version of macOS since I bought the Mac, which came with Sierra on it, and now have no other choice.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2342955

      I have installed Catalina 10.15.7 Supplemental update 2021-002 on my two main-use Macs (2012 MacMini Ivy Bridge i7 and 2017 iMac4K Kaby Lake i7) a couple of days ago with no problems.
      Haven’t had time to tackle the other three.

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    • #2343491

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/14/2021. Changes made for macOS Big Sur 11.2.1  and Supplemental Updates 2021-002 for Catalina 10.15.7, and Mojave 10.14.6.

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    • #2345921

      I just updated Mojave to 2021-002, as well as Safari. The whole update was quite fast: some 15 minutes in total. It is too early to say yet if all is well: it seems so, right now. If I have problems later on that can be attributed to this updating of Mojave, I’ll come back to report that here. I would also comment on that, if it happened, in some thread in the Mac OS forum.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2347349

      Over the last couple days I installed macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Supplemental update (dated Feb 9 here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222) on an iMAC and a MacBook Air. No issues.

    • #2350880

      Today I was warned that there was a new software update, so I went and had a look: it was for Safari.

      I just installed it and the Mac is still alive and even seems to be fully aware: knows who’s the current US president, etc. If things later prove not to be so good after all, I will come back to report.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2351603

      The ongoing list of updates still shows 11.2.1 has the current version for OS. Since then, there has been 11.2.2 and 11.2.3 for Big Sur. I have installed them both with no problems on my 2019 iMac.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2351707

        This could be happening, perhaps, because Nathan might be otherwise occupied these days. If that were so, maybe someone like PK could take care of the updating in the meantime?

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2354984

      AKB2000014 has been updated 4/3/2021 with current versions, to the best of my knowledge. I will attempt to keep that part of this thread up-to-date. If I get behind, one of you with knowledge please DM me. Thank you, @KP , for doing it this time.

      This has been Nathan Parker’s project. It has been a reflection his knowledge and testing of Apple’s Operating Systems and devices. The recommendations to “HOLD” or “INSTALL” the updates have been his. He has moved on to other things in his life.

      I have a limited knowledge of Mac updates. My desktops/laptops are stuck on Catalina, and my “i” devices (iPhone6 and iPad Mini 2) are old enough to get only rare security fixes. On top of that, I have spent much of my time trying to keep up with Windows (in order to be of some use on the Forums 🙂 ).

      Onward……

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    • #2360767

      AKB2000014 has been updated 4/26/2021. Changes made for macOS Big Sur 11.3, Security Update 2021-002 for Catalina 10.15.7, Security Update 2021-003 for Mojave 10.14.6, iOS/iPadOS 14.5,  watchOS 7.4, and tvOS 14.5. HomePod OS 14.5 also released.

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      • #2361314

        AKB2000014 has been updated 4/28/2021. I have added information on firmware for HomePod (issued April 26, 2021) and AirPod-2 and Pro (issued April 28, 2021).

    • #2360768

      Thanks, PK.

      Security Update 2021-003 for Mojave 10.14.6: Now available in and waiting to be installed on my Mac.

      As usual, I am leaving it on a shelf for a couple of weeks to mature, while I see what happens elsewhere to others after they install it, before installing it myself.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2360852

      I have installed Security Update 2021-002 on two out of five of my Macs running Catalina 10.15.7 with no apparent problems. The two I have updated are constantly in use during my waking hours, but are turned OFF overnight.

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    • #2360872

      My iWatch with the latest OS 7.4 had an interesting dilemma earlier this evening. I had updated my iPhone and watch earlier in the day. In the grocery store, where I had my grocery list (from Notes) showing on the iphone screen, it had disappeared after a certain number of minutes and I had my mask on (required by law here). The newly updated OS on the phone and the watch got in a bit of a fight as the watch now authenticates the phone automatically (and that is wonderful) when wearing a mask as it eliminates a lot of problems (if you use Face ID) and hassles up until now after mask wearing in public became mandatory. The watch had authenticated the phone just fine as I got out of my car at the grocery store (with the mask on) and wanted to bring up my grocery list on the phone. Great, I thought…much easier now to do this! (Almost like it was before we had to wear masks and I had Face ID in use on the phone). I got inside the store and after wandering about for awhile I raised the phone to look at the grocery list again.

      Duh. The phone tried to authenticate (it should not have done that with the new software installed since it is paired to the watch which I had on) and the watch tried to do the same at the same time…geez. The watch won (as should be). The Face ID now is supposed to sort of melt into the background if you also have a recent version of iWatch with the latest software and, if the watch is unlocked and on your wrist, it authenticates the phone if you are wearing a mask. If it works correctly (as it did when I got out of the car) it is a wonderful improvement. I hope the confusion was a one time thing as if this works correctly consistently it is a big improvement.

    • #2362124

      Updated my 2019 iMac to 11.3 and my 6S to 14.5. All seems well so far. The OS update took 2 hours! May have been overload servers. I did the 6S first and then tried to back it up to the Mac. Plugged it in to the Mac. It wouldn’t connect and got a popup saying it was not compatible with the Mac’s OS and I needed to update the Mac first to the latest release. Never saw this sequence requirement before. May be something new in either the OS or iOS updates where you need to do the Mac update first.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2362195

      Has anyone running Mojave or Catalina been offered Safari 14.1, only to have it taken away (i.e., no longer offered). I’ve got an iMAC running Catalina (current except for the very latest updates issued on April 26) where this has happened.

      Seems like there’s been a couple of pulled patches in the last few months. I hope Apple isn’t going to be emulating MS.

    • #2362196

      I got this at the same time I got the last Catalina Security Update 2021-02. Have had no problems.
      Screen-Shot-2021-05-02-at-2.16.13-PM

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    • #2362200

      Never saw this sequence requirement before.

      iOS 14.5 require the latest iTunes.

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      • #2362217

        Alex…do you mean the latest OS’s Finder  since you don’t back up to iTunes now but to Finder?  Since my iPhone wouldn’t connect until I updated to 11.3 this seems to be the case.  How does someone still on Catalina or earlier backup their iPhone?  It would’t even connect to Big Sur 11.2.3

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2362222

          Alex…so, what does this mean from now on, post iOS 14.5?  If there is an iOS update, your Mac has to have the latest OS in order for your iPhone to connect to the Mac?  This wasn’t just a connect to Mac for an iPhone backup via Finder issue, it would also apply to a Restore or Image Capture.  Anything that requires you to connect your iPhone  to the  Mac.  When you said the latest iTunes, were you thinking connecting an iOS 14.5 iPhone to a PC?

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2362230

      Day before yesterday, I installed in may MacBook Pro laptop the update 2021-003 for  Mojave 10.14.6, the OS currently running on it. So far, everything seems right as rain. But if anything bad happened that could be attributed to this update, I’ll be back here to report.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2363558

        Just checking in.  Installed Security Update 2021-003 on my MacBook Air running Mojave.  Installation was smooth, download and install in about 20 minutes. So far no issues but will monitor for awhile.

        Still waiting to install Safari 14.1 in a few days.

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        • #2365494

          A quick follow-up. Installed Safari 14.1 over the weekend. No issues that I can see but don’t use Safari anyway.

           

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    • #2362286

      Alex…do you mean the latest OS’s Finder

      No I mean the latest iTunes. It doesn’t matter if you use it or not.
      iTunes comes with new MacOS (on Windows PC it is a standalone app).
      iTunes is used for many tasks, one of the tasks is to backup your iPhone to iCloud or local PC.
      iTunes also checks for new iOS updates…

      • #2362305

        My iMac on Big Sur says “my Mac will check for updates” not iTunes as on your screenshot. Didn’t iTunes go away with Catalina for iPhone backups?  iTunes is in the Music store, but it’s now a standalone app on my Mac.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2362348

          I missed that you are on Big Sur 🙁
          The other possibly for iOS 14.5 requiring new Sig Sur updates are maybe new drivers,..and other changes in iOS 14.5.

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    • #2362500

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/3/2021. Changes made for macOS Big Sur 11.3,1, iOS/iPadOS 14.5.1, iOS/iPadOS 12.5.3,  and watchOS 7.4.1.

    • #2362802

      I am once again being offered Safari 14,1 on my 2 Catalina Macs.

      About the security content of Safari 14.1

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    • #2362855

      Some notes that might be of interest.

      I have updated Safari 14.1 to the security release of May 4, 2021 on my Macs that initially received v14.1 with MacOS 10.15.7 (Catalina) Security Update 2021-002 on 4/28. No problem with the installation.
      —————
      Yesterday (5/4/20201), I tried to update my iPad Mini-2 (old h/w) to iOS 12.5.3 from 12.5.2  using Finder on my MacMini. Should have listened to the chatter above.
      The iPad connected to the Mac OK, and it backed up OK. The s/w was downloaded without a hitch, but the install produced an error (there was a problem with the iPad and the install failed). It wouldn’t install and it wouldn’t restore from the backup made a few minutes before. The iPad screen sowed a “connect to iTunes” with the connector showing. Seems the OS had been wiped in preparation for the update.

      Not having iTunes on the Mac any longer, I dug out my laptop with a Win8.1 installation of iTunes for Win and updated it to make sure I had the latest version installed. I connected the iPad using iTunes and it did a Factory Restore and update to 12.5.3. I had been backing up the iPad to my Mac instead of iCloud and was afraid if I tried a restore from the Mac I would have the same results. So I was faced with reinstalling all the Apps under my ID from the AppStore.

      I also have an iPhone 6 (more old h/w) I have been backing up and updating using Finder. Needless to say I didn’t try to update it to 12.5.3 that way this time. It was done over my network connection.
      And I now have iCloud backup turned on on both devices!!!
      Live and learn.

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      • #2363103

        PK Cano…weird things are indeed happening with 11.3 and 14.5.1 going back to my post # 2362124 re: these two updates and Mac’s Finder connecting/not connecting to an iPhone.  Once I installed 11.3 (I had done 14.5.1 first), Finder and iPhone Backup seemed to work fine and I wasn’t getting the iTunes alert message which I should ‘t have gotten anyway since I was already on Big Sur…therefore no iTunes.  At least I know now it wasn’t just me that had Finder problems post 11.3 and/or 14.5.1.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2366762

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/24/2021. Changes made for macOS Big Sur 11.4, iOS/iPadOS 14.6, watchOS 7.5, tvOS 14.6, and HomePod 14.6

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      • #2366872

        AKB2000014 has been updated 5/25/2021. Changes made to include Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2021-003 and Mojave 10.14.6 Security Update 2021-004 issued on May 24, 2021.

        Note: I have installed Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2021-003 on three of my five Macs without any apparent problems.
        Edit: Now on all five as of 5/25/2021.

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    • #2367291

      FYI…I installed both OS 11.4 and iOS 14.6 today.  No problems with either except 11.4 took close to 90 minutes from start to finish on a 2019 iMAC.  iOS 14.6 was much faster.  Maybe 30 minutes on a 6S.  I did have the spinning beachball for the first few minutes after 11.4 was complete, but I believe it is now faster than before 11.4.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2368585

      A week after it became available, I have installed the Security Update 2021-004 for Mojave 10.14.6 with no immediate problems apparent.

      Longer term problems, though, I’ll have to wait and see. If it is anything the matter that can be blamed on this update, I’ll be back to report.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2369591

        This weekend I took the plunge and installed Security Update 2021-004 on my MacBook Air running Mojave. Installation was smooth and only took 15 to 20 minutes.  Will keep an eye on things to make sure everything is okay.

        Will install Safari 14.1.1 later this week.

    • #2379140

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/20/2021. Changes made for iOS 14.7, watchOS 7.6, tvOS, 14.7 and HomePod 14.7.
      It does not appear that Apple has issued an update for iPadOS at this time.

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      • #2379249

        Update: Apple has released iPadOS 14.7 on 7/21/2021. AKB2000014 has been updated.

        Update: Also added: MacOS Big Sur 11.5, Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2021-004 and Mojave 10.14.6 Security Update 2021-005 (Information on Security Updates for Catalina and Mojave on 9TO5Mac and iMore )

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    • #2379164

      I plan to upgrade from Mojave to Big Sur my Intel Mac, a MacBook Pro, ca. mid-2015 (that Apple stop making and selling in July of 2018, so I believe it is going to be fully supported for another two years), in another two or three weeks, and I wonder if there are any caveats I should keep in mind before, during and after this upgrade?

      Right now, all my applications are 64-bit and I have installed Intego as AV and Web protection, following Nathan’s advice. My Mac has 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD, so the hardware should be OK to run Big Sur and I am not concerned about it.

       

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2379225

        Since you have an Intel Mac, you shouldn’t have many problems. You won’t have to transfer data and reinstall programs like you do with a new device.
        Be sure all of your third-party programs are compatible with Big Sur –  you may need to update some versions. And it is a bit more picky about giving permissions for non-Apple stuff (System Preferences\Security & Privacy\Privacy)

        I just got my new M1 MacMini up and running  in the last two weeks, Big Sur and all. The only thing that asked for Rosetta was Waterfox Current (maybe others needed it too, but it was already installed?) Anyway, the only thing I needed a later version of was TrendMicro (same license, just update version). And the only thing I can’t run on the M1 chip (yet) is a Windows VM on Parallels, but I am in the process of archiving the VMs anyway because I’m so fed up dealing with MS and Windows. I may keep fooling with Win10/Win11 long enough to publish update change information, but my interest is lagging.

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      • #2379252

        Big Sur 11.5 final released.

    • #2379267

      PK, If ever I get myself an M1 Mac (probably because most applications are no longer compatible with the Intel CPUs and, or their developers don’t care to update these anymore, I would have a problem, because I have two expensive compilers (Fortran and C++) that are designed to run with Intel CPUs.

      Perhaps one solution — if I were to get an M1 Mac and assuming this solution is feasible — would be to install Mojave and whatever only runs on Intel chips, on a VM running on an M1 Mac?

      Note about Waterfox Classic, since you mentioned it: Classic has become so non-functional to me that I most reluctantly replaced it with Waterfox G3 (a.k.a “Current”) a few days ago. To my surprise, not only works without the problems I had with Classic, but it looks and functions very much  as Classic used to do, that is to say: almost perfectly for my needs, that require frequent Web searches and connecting to some rather browser-picky sites. At last in my Intel Mac.

      (When I try to watch a video, Amazon Prime tells me in a popup message to use a different browser to watch videos, but that is not so: I click off the message and start to watch, with no loss of definition at all)

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2379273

        Intel and M1 hardware are not compatible (at the moment). That’s why I can’t run Windows VMs on Parallels on the M1 (yet, they’re supposed to be working on it). Don’t know if any of the other virtualization software (VMware Fusion, CrossOver, VirtualBox, Wine, etc) is capable yet either. Perhaps there could be some cloud-based virtualization that would allow it. But I believe compilers have to be run on the platform that compiled programs runs on – so Windows in your case?)

        • #2379280

          KP:

          I have an Intel MacBook Pro ca. 2015.

          I no longer have a functional Windows PC.

          Have also a look to my full message above, that I got interrupted when I was trying to add a second paragraph, but did it when I was free to so once more. What I wrote there might interest you, because you are using Waterfox Classic.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2379288

            I believe I said I was using Waterfox Current.

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    • #2379276

      if I were to get an M1 Mac and assuming this solution is feasible — would be to install Mojave and whatever only runs on Intel chips, on a VM running on an M1 Mac?

      Why not use Rosetta 2 ? :

      “Rosetta 2 enables a Mac with Apple silicon to use apps built for a Mac with an Intel processor.”

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      • #2379281

        Alex, thanks for the remainder. However, I am not sure if my expensive compilers will agree to run, or run well, with Rosetta. So what I asked about is Plan B.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2379644

      Perhaps one solution — if I were to get an M1 Mac and assuming this solution is feasible — would be to install Mojave and whatever only runs on Intel chips, on a VM running on an M1 Mac?

      The answer in NO.

      Some Mac users use an external drive to run older versions of macOS – they can boot from this drive rather than the one inside their Mac and run the older verison of the operating system.

      While this is still possible on Intel-powered Macs, it’s not possible on the M1 Macs. More specifically, you can still run macOS from an external drive, but it can only be Big Sur.

      • #2379702

        Alex: What you wrote in reply to my question on running Mojave ON A VM in an M1 Mac is not about using a VM to run Mojave, but using an external disk, which I suspect is not also an answer to my VM question.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2379769

      is not about using a VM to run Mojave, but using an external disk

      It doesn’t matter if it is external or VM.
      Both methods use the same CPU..
      On M1 you can only run Big Sur.

    • #2379817

      My IMac 2017 lists the Catalina Security update 2021-004.10.5.7 as available to me.  Every time I try to download it says I must restart the computer.  The computer does not restart.  I have very little on the computer so it is not a storage problem.  Any help?

      • #2379826

        Has the update already downloaded and is waiting for a restart?
        Does the Menu Apple icon\restart work?
        Does the Menu Apple icon\Shutdown, then turn back on work?
        What are your settings in System Preferences\Software Update ? And under “Advanced” ?

    • #2379831

      When I click on the apple icon and under it restart it is not working and shutdown is not working.

    • #2379837

      Thanks PKCano.  You gave me the clue.  I read up on how to repair restart and shutdown by using NVRAM instructions.  They worked and the computer automatically installed the updates.  Thanks again for your help and expertise!

    • #2379857

      I am interested to know if anyone here with a Mac with an Intel CPU, has had problems because of having upgraded to Big Sur.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2379866

      I am the anonymous above who solved the restart/shutdown with the NVRAM.  Now Gmail makes me log in everytime.  Under my picture it says not signed in.  I think it is because Internet Accounts has no accounts listed but it won’t allow me to add Chrome or anothing else to the list.  When I click on the plus sign it is dead.  Any help?

      • #2379874

        Did you click on “Google” on the right side? then it will tell you to open your browser and that Google requires authentication in your web browser.

    • #2379876

      I’m sorry for my ignorance PKCano.  What page are you talking about that says Google on the right side?  If I click on the Google icon in the doc it says Gmail, Images etc.  I’m embarrassed by my ignorance.  Also, why is my Internet Access unable to use?

    • #2379880

      When I go to System Preferences/Internet Accounts it says No Accounts on the left.  On the right Google is listed among other accounts but I cannot add it.  The Plus and Minus signs are grayed out.  It’s like Internet Accounts is dead.

    • #2379895

      I finally found the problem.  I somehow had the setting checked off to clear cookies and site data when closing all windows! Do I feel foolish — but relieved.

    • #2380086

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/26/2021. Security updates were released for Big Sur 11.5.1, iOS 14.7.1,  and iPadOS 14.7.1.

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    • #2380675

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/29/2021 for WatchOS 7.6.1

    • #2381162

      A couple of days ago I installed Security Update 2021-005 for Mojave on my MacBook Air.  Installation went well and finished in about 20 minutes.

      Still need to install the Safari update.

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    • #2381163

      I’m still trying to resolve my problem above that Internet Accounts is “”dead”.  On the left it says no accounts.  On the right I cannot click on the plus or minus signs or add any accounts listed on the right.  Any fixes for this?

    • #2381708

      As I have explained in detail in a thread I started today with that purpose here #2381561 , I did not have it easy, yesterday, jumping from Mojave to Big Sur, which I did deliberately to stay ahead of the release of Monterrey in a month or two from now. Had I waited later than that I would have failed to upgrade before the release of the fourth version of macOS after that of Mojave (Monterrey) and would, most like, have become ineligible for upgrading further, if my understanding of this is correct.

      Well, I did upgrade, it was a royal pain to do so, but now I don’t have to upgrade ever again. Why?

      Because my Mac’s model, first sold by Apple in mid-2015, was produced and sold, also by Apple, through mid-July of 2018. Counting from the date of its last official sales, a Mac is fully supported for another five years, in my case through July of 2023 (with a further upgrade coming a few months later that I shall miss for being, by then, already ineligible for one), but should continue to receive security updates for another two, until mid-July of 2025 — as long as Apple does not change this long-held policy. I bough this Mac in June of 2017, so by July of 2025 it will be more than 8 years old, at least in my possession, no counting the time before that when it sat on a shelf in some Apple warehouse, waiting to be sold.

      Eight years is a respectable age for a computer, but I doubt that I am going to have it for that long as my workhorse, as it is now, for three very important reasons, not to mention the ever-shortening of what remains of my own lifespan.

      To wit:

      (1) Mine has an Intel CPU and odds are that big corporations, governments and other big users of Macs, and probably, by 2025, also many small business owners and home users, will have replaced their machines more than once, or have just started using Macs, then available only with ARM Mx CPUs.

      So:

      (2) Developers of Mac software would have quietly stopped supporting as much as now, or at all, their software for Intel CPU Macs, and even Apple might not be so consistent about keeping its support of Intel ones, like mine, for at least seven years, as it has been doing until now.

      And besides, on a rather pessimistic, but probably not entirely unwarranted note:

      (3) By the late 2020s, the Web might have been subject already to so many massive and outrageous acts of aggression against all kinds of users, that it might have become a heavily fortified affair, one where everything works surrounded by near-impregnable firewalls, and the online world we like and need to use these days may be something much less user-friendly than it is now.  Because to rise up to the dire dangers of that not so distant day, there will have to be a correspondingly massive revamping of operating systems, of hardware, as well as of the Internet itself, most likely using stiffer and more hard to use protocols, with matter-of-fact quantum encryption for messages sent over a very different kind of optical links than those I am using to write this, on this page of AskWoody, right now.

      Or to put it more succinctly, Roman-like:

      Sic transit gloria Telam …

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2382426

        I’m 76 years old and getting to the age when what I buy may be the last of that item I buy.  Who knows.  Anyway, I try not to worry about what I can’t now and/or in the future control. Going from a 8 year old PC to my current 2019  iMac, which I’ve kept updated and current, was a challenge.  With the help of YouTube, I was pretty much able to turn on the new Mac and go thru System Preferences, Apple Photos set up, etc, but I was stumped setting up a new Linksys router and HP wifi all in one printer (which I got from Apple with the Mac)…so, I called the Geek Squad and asked for a Mac expert.  The guy I got was great.  He did what I could not figure out and left with everything working perfectly.  The best $99 I’ve spent in a while.  Very stress free. I recommend them before you tear you hair out setting up these items.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2382438

          My Dad is having his 93rd birthday this week.  I wouldn’t count on that being your last technology 🙂  But yes, sometimes going to the Genius bar or another venue is wise.  Apple’s support for consumers has always been rated higher than Windows support.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

          • #2382449

            93…very good.  I hope you’re right.  There might be a newer Mac in my future after all.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2383290

      AKB2000014 has been updated 8/12/2021 for Big Sur 11.5.2 (bug fixes, no published CVE entries)

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    • #2383358

      I updated my new M1 MacMini to Big Sur 11.5.2 today. It seemed to take longer than updates in previous versions, but everything came back working. So far, no problems.

      I have updated all the Windows VMs on my macs. As soon as I get them backed up, I am going to upgrade one of my main drivers (Kaby Lake i7 iMac4K) from Catalina to Big Sur. There are a couple of programs that will need to be updated to the next version, but I already have the installers from installing them on the M1 MacMini.
      Will post results when it happens.

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      • #2383374

        PK, Good luck.

        I upgraded from Mojave to Big Sur in my Mac (see this Mac’s details in my signature panel) very recently. Most things I care about are now working as they did with Mojave (after some expenditure of elbow grease, as it was not exactly a plug and play fun thing to do, as I have explained elsewhere already).

        BUT “Mail” is not doing too well, taking hours before it decides to download emails that were received at the AOL IMAP server during those hours.

        AND Thunderbird (v78.13.0) is receiving emails as soon as they are received, BUT it cannot find older emails I know exist by using “Search messages” in any of the several ways this can be done. Or it might find those in a folder different from the one is searching in, or … well, this is just too annoying to go on.

        So now I am using two Mac email clients: one (Thunderbird) to get the emails as soon as they arrive to the AOL server, and the other (Mail) to search emails already received  with certain words or addresses in them. This does no seem to be causing problems, but is not exactly a wonderful thing, either.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2383617

        Updated iMac4K 8/13/21 from Catalina to Big Sur 11.5.2 (12.44GB download) – it’s up and running. Seems to be faster. Almost time to upgrade Parallels Desktop for Mac from v16 to v17 – that will probably also have a positive impact on speed for the VMs too. And printers sure are easier in MacOS!!!

        I had to update a couple of programs to later versions (TrendMicro A/V, Paragon NTFS for Mac) to be compatible. Neither could have been installed ahead of time because they were Big Sur specific.
        Advice: if you have programs you know are not compatible to the upgrade (for Intel, but especially for Apple Silicon), it is best to uninstall them previous to the upgrade and reinstall the new version afterward. For programs that need access, like the two mentioned, there seems to be a lot more “permission granting” necessary in Big Sur.

        I did experience a minor problem with my file-sync program in the Win8.1 VM on this machine. It seemed to lose contact for syncing. The solution was simple – rename the folder in AppData where it kept the shared folder database, and when it was restarted it recreated the folder correctly. (Kinda like resetting Windows Update by renaming the Software Distribution folder)

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    • #2383652

      Almost time to upgrade Parallels Desktop for Mac from v16 to v17

      Parallels 17 has TPM support in software so you can try Windows 11 on VM.

    • #2384195

      Having encountered no complaints with the upgrade, here or in other sites, I went ahead a while ago and installed 11.5.2. I did it also because this is likely to be the last incremental upgrade of Big Sur before Monterrey comes out, probably next month. And it is my first such upgrade since I installed Big Sur earlier this month. So I was feeling adventurous.

      In my Mac and with my fiberoptics + old router Internet connection, the 2.54 GB took some 7 minutes to download, then 15 minutes preparing to install and then another 15 minutes to install, so a total of some 37 minutes altogether. With the usual drama of the screen going black, the white apple and the load bar showing up on the black background, then going all-black again, the apple and the bar showing up once more, then black again, then the apple, and bar showed up again and the last 10-minute count to the end of the night started and progressed steadily to the end.

      So far the things I often use seem to be working, there is a hint that a problem with Mail might have been solved, but too early to be sure. (*)

      If I run into problems that might have to do with this upgrade, I’ll report back.

      (*) I just came back to correct that: Mail  is still having the same problem it has had since I upgraded to Big Sur from Mojave: it does not download messages until hours after being received, while Thunderbird does that right away (and that is why I have to use Thunderbird now.).

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2390343

      Anybody still running Catalina?  Any luck installing Security Update 2021-005 for Catalina?

      I like to wait atleast 1 week with no issues before installing a Security Update. That should be this Tuesday.

      • #2390344

        I’m running Catalina on an iMAC and a MacBook Air. Haven’t tried the security update or the safari update. Right now I’m planning on Sept 25 or 26 to update the Air (which I usually do first) followed by the iMAC. Whenever I do it, I’ll post the results here.

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      • #2390345

        I am running Catalina on a government computer, because at the government the IT people are always reluctant to upgrade the OS, in this case from Catalina to Big Sur, until they have had plenty of time to see how the new OS works. The current OS in use normally has the patches installed promptly, so probably my government Mac would be updated soon enough. So far it is running Office, Teams, Safari, FF and Chrome, VPN for telecommuting, some of my own developed software and corresponding compilers and other command-line applications. If there are any problems clearly related to the update with any of these, or anything else that goes wrong, I’ll try to remember to post about that here.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2390406

        Updated two MacBook Pros (one Ivy Bridge, One Haswell) with Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2021-005 and Safari update. No problems.

        Have an iMac Ivy Bridge running Catalina to go when I get time.

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      • #2390412

        I am waiting until Monday (Sept 20) to update the AKB, because I thing iOS 15 (and maybe MacOS Monterrey) are going to be released.
        Will get to the revision as soon as the info is available (or not available).

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        • #2390420

          Updates coming On Sept 20 :

          iOS 15
          iPadOS 15
          TvOS 15
          WathcOS 8
          HomePod/Mini 15.

          I think the MacOS Monterey will be released on the next Apple October event 2021 for new Macs.

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    • #2391152

      I just installed the latest 11.6 incremental upgrade of Big Sur and, as far as I can tell on a short notice such as this, things seem to be working. It took quite a while to download it and then make it ready to install. For what is worth (as this depends on the type of Internet connection, router and computer used), the download and “preparation” took close to 30 minutes and the installation itself took some 20 minutes, for a total of close to an hour, when on average it has been less than 40 minutes in previous installs.

      This time, besides 11.6, I also installed the updates of Safari and XCode, a command-line application I need to use now and then.

      If I encounter problems attributable to this update, I’ll come back to report. Good luck to those updating later.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2391227

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/22/2021 for the September 13, 2021 and September 20, 2021 updates.

      September 13, 2021: MacOSBig Sur 11.6 and Catalina Security Update 2021-005, iOS and iPadOS 14.8, WatchOS 7.6.2

      September 20, 2021: iOS and iPadOS 15, WatchOS 8, tvOS 15, HomePod 15

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    • #2391229

      I have done these installs without problems:
      Big Sur 11.6 on iMac4K (Kaby Lake) and M1 MacMini.
      Catalina Security Update 2021-005 on an older Ivy Bridge iMac and 2 MacBooks (Ivy Bridge and Haswell).
      Safari 15 on all 5 macnines.
      iOS 14.8 on an iPhone SE 2nd-gen

      working on iOS 15 on the iPhone as time permits.

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    • #2391467

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/23/2021 for the September 23, 2021 updates.

      macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2021-006
      iOS/iPadOS 12.5.5

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    • #2392702

      Just checking-in about Catalina Security Updates.

      I was ready to install Security Update 2021-005 when I realized a new Update was available…2021-006. I waited another week before installing that Update which installed with no issues.

      I also missed the Safari update and am now being offered Safari 15.  I’ve heard there have been some issues with it. Should I wait for Safari 15.1 or Safari 15.0.1?

      And now I see a bonus update called Device Support Update.  I thought it was for Big Sur but apparently I am seeing it on my Catalina. Anyone running Catalina seeing this? I guess I’ll wait a week before installing.

       

       

      • #2392703

        Haven’t checked my Macs for the device support update but this describes it:

        https://www.macworld.com/article/540001/apple-releases-rare-device-support-update-for-macos.html I don’t have any Apple devices (iphone, etc.) so I might ignore this update.

        I was going to install the -005 Catalina update but then the -006 update came out and I haven’t gotten to it yet. I read something about issues ith Safari 15. Something about needing to get a separate download from an Apple suppor site and installing it after you’ve already installed 15. Think I’ll wait! I sure hope Apple is not trying to copy Microshaft’s incompetence with patches.

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      • #2393139

        This is what I remembered about Safari 15. Thanks to Alex5723

        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/macos-big-sur-11-2-released/#post-2392274

        Edit: Well, the link is going to the right topic but not the right post It’s #2392274 way down towards the bottom.

      • #2393268

        I updated my Catalina MacBook Air with the -006 update last night (skipped the -005 update which was no longer offered after the -006 update came out). No issues that I can tell. After the download it seemed to install somewhat faster than normal.

        I am also being offered Device support update but since I have no i devices I’m passing on it, unless someone can give me a really good reason for installing it. I figure if it’s that important, Apple will work it into a security update.

        Also, there was about a 24 hour period where Safari 15 was not offered, after which it came back, still as Safari 15. I did not install it and am waiting for the first ‘point release’ of 15.

        Is it just me or is Apple having more problems with updates in the last several months?

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      • #2394991

        Installed the 006 Catalina update on an iMAC last night. Took about 40 minutes (it’s a slow machine because its got a 5400 rpm HDD) and everything seems fine.

        On both the iMAC and MacBook Air, I’m being offered Safari 15 and the iOS compatibility (or whatever it’s called) update. I’m waiting on both.

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        • #2394993

          I’ve had no problem with Safari 15 on my three Catalina machines. But then, Safari is not mu default browser – Firefox is.

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        • #2395001

          DrBonzo: For what is worth, I have Safari 15.0 and I am running Big Sur, latest version.

          I do not use Safari, same as PK, but version 15.0 has caused me no trouble, at lest that I have noticed.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2392710

      I just got a Big Sur update described as follows in “Updates/more information”:

      “This update ensures proper updating and restoring for iOS and iPadOS devices with a Mac”

      Reading the article linked to the comment of DrBonzo, I get the impression that this is meant to make quicker, better, cheaper, or something, to back up one of those things to a Mac, things which, once again, I don’t have.

      So I have neither of those “i” things, but right now there is this annoying red dot on the “update” icon on my Mac’s dock.

      What should I do? Ignore, or install?

      There is no way to just get rid of the dot, keep the icon, right?
      (I want to keep the icon pinned to the dock.)

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2392723

        You should keep your MAC OS updated with every feature/security patch .
        There is a new Big Sur update : 11.6.1 beta with security fixes.

        • #2392724

          Thanks. But why a beta update? That does not sound very reassuring to me. And the description it comes with the patch says nothing of security holes being fixed. Although this here says something about that, but …

          https://www.gottabemobile.com/5-things-to-know-about-the-macos-big-sur-11-6-1-update/

          Apple’s pushed a macOS Big Sur 11.6.1 beta to developers. It hasn’t pushed it to those enrolled in the Beta Software Program and it’s unclear if we’ll see a public macOS Bug Sur 11.6.1 beta.

          Before you download the macOS Big Sur 11.6.1 beta onto your Mac, note that pre-release
          software is typically plagued with bugs and performance issues. These issues could impact the performance of your core apps, your Mac’s battery life, and its overall speed. Most people shouldn’t use beta software as a daily driver
          .”

          I think I’ll wait. For as long as it takes to get a non-beta sent to replace this one. Or this one is taken back and not replaced.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2392725

            I am running beta version of iOS, iPadOS and WatchOS for years with no problems.
            Windows users are installing preview (beta) updates too.
            Apple always issues a Dev/Beta updates before final release.

            • #2392729

              So that is how we are different, I suppose. Mine is a Mac, running macOS. I have none of those other things. Furthermore, I have no need or use for those other things. So I do not store stuff from those things in my Mac, while it is the manifest purpose of the update to help those other things backup their stuff on a Mac. Have no planes to start doing that in mine.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2392730

      I have none of those other things. So I do not store stuff from those things in my Mac

      It doesn’t matter if you don’t. You should update. If you won’t it will be installed in the next update.

      • #2392732

        Alex, I can’t help if Apple actually packs this into the next update, I can only hope that they’ll do that because they’ll have fixed all that may be wrong with this one now. I simply don’t want to be the one to find out what is wrong with this one, if anything is wrong with it at all. Others are welcome to do the opposite, or something different and innovative. Good luck, and good night.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2392738

      Good news, or so it would seem: update 11.6.1 recently released (to my Mac, at least) is not a security update for Big Sur, just what the description in the System/Preferences/Updates says, as no recent Big Sur security update is listed here:

      https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2392746

        There is no update for 11.6.1 on Apple security updates page yet as it is in beta/rc

        • #2393205

          Alex: “There is no update for 11.6.1 on Apple security updates page yet as it is in beta/rc

          Thanks, I am sure you really mean well.

          But, in case your information happened to be correct, then I am not installing this thing. And that is final.

          Apple is not letting me know what is the name of the update, only what it does. And there is no mention in there of security issues being fixed. And nothing that I have not already installed is listed in the latest list of security updates in the only Apple security list I am prepared to follow (I already provided a link to that in a previous comment). So, this discussion, for my part, is over, unless something can be added to it that has not been mentioned already. I am listening.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2394131

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/6/2021 for the October 5, 2021 updates to Firmware version 4A400 for AirPods Max, AirPods Pro, and AirPods (second generation).
      See linked information above.

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      • #2394771

        I have found that in order for the air pods to update, after connecting the pods case to power and connecting it to the iPhone, I must leave the case open in order for it to stay paired/connected to the iPhone.  None of the “how to update air pods” instructions I’ve seen say this.  If I connect the pods to the phone by opening the case and then close the case, it  loses the connection and doesn’t seem to update.  What’s your experience?

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2394810

      I must leave the case open in order for it to stay paired/connected to the iPhone

      You can’t pair AirPods to iPhone with closed case, so the case should be opened.

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    • #2395396

      @OscarCP
      The discussion of your battery charging problems are off-topic in AKB2000014 Ongoing List of Apple Operating System Updates.
      I have created a new topic and moved the discussion to the MacOS Forum:

      MacBook battery constaltly charging, stays at 97%

      Note: @DrBonzo @Bob99

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    • #2395433

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/12/2021 for the October 11, 2021 updates to: iOS/iPadOS 15.0.2 (to address a zero-day exploit, CVE-2021-30883).
      watchOS 8.0.1 (this update has no published CVE entries).

    • #2397005

      OK, I finally got bored of seeing a red dot on top of the “software update” icon on the Dock, and decided to install something I absolutely do not need, but I was also a bit anxious that, if not installed, it might mess up the installation of something I will need, sooner or later. So I installed the obnoxious thing, doing that took some 15 seconds and the computer did not shut down, etc., as in a real update of macOS (Big Sur, in my case). So now it is out of sight, and I hope, it also stays out of mind. For ever.  We’ll see.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2397358

        Thanks for the update OscarCP.

        Anyone running Catalina install this Device Support Update or whatever it’s caĺled? I too am worried if not installed may cause something else not to install!

         

      • #2397361

        I’m running Catalina. My plan is to wait until the next security update comes out. If the Device Support Update is still offered, I’ll install it before the security update. If the Device Support Update is no longer offered it would indicate to me that it got combined with the new security update.

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      • #2397401

        I have installed it on four (4) Catalina Macs (MacMini, iMac, 13″ and 15″ MacBook Pros).
        Have had no problems at all.

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        • #2397485

          Thanks DrB and PK.

          I decided to install it today on my Mac Air. No issues so far but will post back if something turns up.

          By the way, I also installed the Safari 15 update last week even though I don’t use it.

          I hope Apple gets back to their regular security updates.

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    • #2397864

      8:00am CDT US (server time), Oct 26, 2021.
      Waiting on Apple Security Updates information to update AKB2000014. Not available yet.

      • #2397911

        PK, Nothing here yet either, as of 1:09 EDT. Maybe a softer rollout than usual? Never in a big hurry to install anything, I am.

        Maybe this gives at Apple more time to think it over too?

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

        • #2397930

          The security updates are available now!

          If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2397927

      Maybe this gives at Apple more time to think it over too?

      There was nothing to think about.
      All updates for MacOS, iOS, iPadOS, WatchOS, HomePod, AppleTV..are out.

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      • #2397979

        According to Apple (in the Web page with the URL given by Microfix): “The latest version of macOS is 11.6.1” Also the “i” gadgets, according to the same site, seem to be set to get theirs now or soon.

        As to Big Sur 11.6.1, this might be out already, but has not been received in my Mac yet. I’ll post here again when I receive it. As usual, I do not plan to run and install it immediately and at least not for two weeks.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2398023

          Look below the listing for macOS Monterey (and its “more info) to the second “more info” link.
          I am seeing it on my two Big Sur machines,

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    • #2398021

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/26/2021 for the October 25-26, 2021 following updates:

      MacOS Monterrey 12.0.1  (12.0.1 – 12.13GB download. YIKES!!!)
      MacOS Big Sur 11.6.1
      MacOS Catalina Security Update 2021-007
      iOS and iPadOS 15.1
      iOS and iPadOS 14.8.1
      watchOS 8.1
      tvOS 15.1
      HomePod 15.1

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    • #2398358

      Flash News! Tonight, at around 11:30 PM EST, the incremental update to Big Sur, 11.6.1, finally got here, to my very Mac!

      I am wondering if those who received it much earlier might not all live in California, or perhaps also further up the Pacific Seaboard, because perhaps the updates spread out of Cupertino like an ink blot on a piece of USA-shaped and sized blotting paper, until one good day they reach me, near the Atlantic Seaboard?

      Anyhow: there it shall now sit, waiting to be installed, for the next week or two, or whenever I think it has been long enough without hearing the cries of anguish and despair from earlier adopters. Or whenever I get bored of watching that red dot on the software installer icon pinned to my Mac’s dock.

      Although now Monterey is there as well, so it might never go away, the red dot. As I have no reason, need or intention of installing Monterey. (By the way, I do wonder why are Californians so fond of perverting the perfectly good and phonetic Spanish spelling of the original name? They do it all the time, every time, without missing a single chance, and with absolutely no need. Pure obnoxiousness, if you asked me.)

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2398464

      For those of you sitting on Big Sur – some information:
      I have installed Big Sur 11.6.1 on my two Big Sur Macs, one an ARM-based M1 MacMini and the other an Intel Kaby Lake based iMac4K. Current on the M1 MacMini. No problems with either one.

      Holding off on upgrading to Monterey till the bugs shake out.

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      • #2398629

        Microsoft finds new macOS vulnerability, Shrootless, that could bypass System Integrity Protection

        Microsoft has discovered a vulnerability that could allow an attacker to bypass System Integrity Protection (SIP) in macOS and perform arbitrary operations on a device. We also found a similar technique that could allow an attacker to elevate their privileges to root an affected device. We shared these findings with Apple through Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure (CVD) via Microsoft Security Vulnerability Research (MSVR). A fix for this vulnerability, now identified as CVE-2021-30892, was included in the security updates released by Apple on October 26, 2021….

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    • #2398766

      I have now installed MacOS Catalina Security Update 2021-007 on my four older Macs/MacBooks that are not eligible for Big Sur. Haven’t had any problems with the so far.
      All six of my machines also have the Safari 15.1 Update update.

      OK, time to install those security patches, you all !

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      • #2398771

        OK, I did it. It took me about 45 minutes: 15 to download the 2.56 GB, then 10 to “Prepare to update”, then 20 to actually install. Which is probably going to be different for you, if you have a different kind of Internet connection, router, Mac.

        But that was not going to be all.

        When the install was, allegedly, done and I could log in back to the Mac, I found myself looking at the following on my desktop: first the notice on the grey rectangle that something had failed to install automatically (well, could it be because I do not allow automatic updates?), then when clicking on “more info”, the rest of what you can see there:

        After.downloading.11.6.1..

        The update not installed turned out to be totally irrelevant to me, but I let it install anyways (took less than one minute) so I do not continue to see on the doc that annoying red dot competing for my attention. (The dot is gone!)

        After some preliminary tests, the things I use normally seem to be still working. Any problems possibly related to the update that might only become obvious later on, I’ll come back to report.

         

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2398955

        So I decided to install Catalina Security Update 2021-007. When I went to Software Update I was only offered 2021-007 and that’s it.  I went ahead and installed it. No problems installing and didn’t take very long.

        Now after installing 2021-007 and logging back in I went to check Software Update where I was now offered Safari 15.1 and the bonus Device Support Update! I thought that since I already installed Device Support Update before that would be it.

        Is anyone seeing this bonus update, Device Support Update, for a second time?

        • #2398965

          I have Big Sur, and same as bassmanzam have received this kind of “i” gadget update I could not care less of also for the second time withing few weeks of the first one, but it seemed to me it was a different one, so I installed it, as I have mentioned already in my previous comment, to make the obnoxious red dot on the dock’s “software update” icon go away and come back only to alert me the next time when something new and maybe even significant is waiting to be installed. I have not received a new update for Safari, so maybe this is it for Big Sur.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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          • #2398966

            OscarCP, have you been offered Safari 15.1? I originally wasn’t offered it but after installing Catalina 2021-007 it showed up in Software Updates.

            • #2398968

              bassmanzam: I just checked and, yes, I have 15.1 already installed; now I seem to remember that it came with the previous significant update to macOS Big Sur, a while back.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2399000

          I just updated a MacBook Air running Catalina. Here’s what happened:

          I was offered the 2021-007 security update and the Device Support Update. I installed the latter, after which I was offered Safari 15.1. I had previously been offered Safari 15.0 but that was no longer offered starting a few days ago, so the last Safari I had installed was the last Safari 14 version. So, I installed Safari 15.1. I then installed the Catalina security update 2021-007, after which I was offered the “bonus” Device Support Update, which I installed.

          A bit strange but every thing installed well and I’m back up and running with no as yet apparent issues. The Catalina update took about 15 minutes, the others about 2 to 3.

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          • #2399643

            Just checking-in.   Finally got around to installing Safari 15.1 and the “bonus” update Device Support Update.  Like others that mentioned above, both took no longer than 2 to 3 minutes to download and install.

            What do you think the probability of seeing the “bonus” update again?

             

             

            • #2399652

              bassmanzam: I have seen it again, delivered for me a second time. Unless it was a different one from what I got first time, but intended also for doing some good to those using “i” gadgets and Macs (not me). So the probability can be high. One caveat: I am running Big Sur.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2399775

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/3/2021 for the November 1-3, 2021 following updates:

      tvOS 15.1.1  This update has no published CVE entries.
      HomePodOS 15.1.1

    • #2402291

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/18/2021 for the November 16-17, 2021 following updates:

      iOS 15.1.1 – This update has no published CVE entries.
      Air Pods 3rd-gen Firmware v4.1 4B66
      Air Pods Pro Firmware v4.0 4A402

    • #2402483

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/19/2021 for the November 18, 2021 following update:

      watchOS 8.1.1 for Apple Watch series-7

    • #2406150

      AKB2000014 has been updated 12/13/2021 for the Dec 9-13, 2021 following updates:

      macOS Monterey 12.1
      macOS Big Sur 11.6.2
      macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2021-008
      iOS and iPadOS 15.2
      watchOS 8.3
      tvOS 15.2
      AirPod firmware 4.2 for all models
      HomePod 15.2

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      • #2406202

        Updated 2019 iMac to 12.1 and 6S to 15.2 with no problems.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2406157

      I received this patch to the OS and one other, for Xtools. I checked the “Xtools” one to install just this one, because I never apply a patch to macOS right away, as I have repeatedly stated here and elsewhere: I am not an early adopter.

      But, having checked only the Xtools’ update and feeling sure that this was all I was about to receive, I clicked on the “Install” button and … both patches, the little one for Xtools and the big one (the usual 2 GB) for the OS (Big Sur), started to download, then to prepare to install and finally installing, with the usual drama of the Mac turning itself off, staying off for long enough that one starts to wonder if all is well with it and if one will be able to use it ever again, then turning itself on once more, and so on and so forth.

      Although I imagine that all the drama and 20 minutes or so of the installing were all taken by the OS patch, while the Xtools’ one probably was too small to notice.

      So, like it or not, now clicking on the little black apple on the top left of the desktop informs me that I am the lucky user of macOS 11.6.2 .

      If, later on, I run up against problems attributable to this OS update, I’ll come back here to report.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2406206

        Well, one thing that is different after applying the Big Sur 11.6.2 patch, is that both my email clients, Apple Mail and Thunderbird, now refuse to connect to comments posted in those AskWoody’s Forums I subscribe to when I click on the Sendgrid links in the emails I receive in such occasions. But I still can open and read the Newsletter, so this is not that bad.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

        • #2406342

          Update: Now, a day later, both email clients are allowing once more to connect to messages from AskWoody by clicking on the Sendgrid links. So things are back to normal as far as this goes.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2406425

      As of Dec 14, 2021:
      I have updated 3 Intel Ivy Bridge i7 Macs (13″ MacBook Pro, MacMini, iMac) to macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2021-008.
      I have updated a 15″ Intel Haswell i7 MacBook Pro to macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2021-008.
      I have upgraded 2 Macs (Intel i7 iMac4K and ARM M1 MacMini) to macOS Big Sur 11.6.2

      All up and working without problems.

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      • #2407502

        It’s been a week since the Security Update 2021-008 for Catalina has been offered so I thought it time to update my MacBook Air.

        In Software Update I was only offered the Security Update 2021-008 and nothing else. I installed it, which seemed to take forever.  5 minutes to download 1.5GB file and almost 25 minutes to install! I think the longest Security Update ever!

        Once the install was over, I went back to Software Update and was then offered the Device Support Update, or as I call it, the Bonus Update. I was just wondering if anyone with Catalina was also offered this Bonus Update?

        I have yet to see any update for Safari but I am hoping once I install the Bonus Update it will be offered, fingers crossed!

        I am hoping to get this all resolved before the holidays so I can enjoy them and not be worrying about these updates!

         

         

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        • #2407510

          I got that Bonus Update along with the update for Big Sur, in case anyone here wanted to know. I have the update to Safari waiting to be installed, something I’ll do as soon as I finish typing this.

          And now I’ve done it! Safari 15.2 update: installed.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2407867

          Well the Grinch stole my Christmas!

          Following up from yesterday, I went to Software Update and I was offered the Device Support Update and Safari 15.2! I thought it was my lucky day. So I went ahead and installed the Device Support Update and no problems. Even though I didn’t need to reboot, I did anyways. Feeling good about things I went ahead and installed the Safari 15.2 Update which went quickly and then rebooted. This is where things went downhill.

          When my Macbook air rebooted, I lost wifi among other things. My AV never started automatically and when I tried to open manually I just got a bouncing icon.

          I think I’ll start another thread in the macOS forum…I don’t know how bad things got.

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          • #2408055

            bassmanzam: You have a serious problem, no question about it. I don’t know enough to give useful advice. I offer the following information in case it helps someone else figure out what might be the reason for your problem and what to do to resolve it:

            (By the way, I am running Big Sur and after installing the same Safari update have had no problems at all, at least that I have noticed. Maybe your situation has something to do with the fact that you are using Catalina?)

            Now looking just now for recent related information online I found something you might like to check before doing anything, to see if this is a good idea or not, but it might be a good idea:

            https://appuals.com/how-to-restore-mac-to-previous-date/

            ” Finally, one of the most useful applications of this great tool is its ability to restore your entire hard drive from the backup if you find yourself in a situation where something on your PC went corrupt. If certain system files are broken or if a malicious application has done some damage to your hard drive, you can use this option to restore your hard drive.

            Turn your Mac OS X running device on and hold the Command + R keys in order to open the macOS Recovery Partition which deals with these boot problems. This screen is called macOS Utilities and it should open if you use the key combination on any device.
            Select the Restore from Time Machine Backup options and click Continue.

            Make sure you check out the information on the Restore Your System page. Click the Continue button after you have finished.
            Choose the backup you want to use in order to restore your system and click continue. Make sure you choose the last working configuration by checking the date of the backup.

            Be patient while the process finishes as it definitely may take a while. After the process is over, your Mac will restart and you should be done dealing with problems. ”

            I know that with Time Machine one can back up one’s files and folders, but  was not aware that with Time Machine one can restore the full disk, including the system part, to a previous epoch, much as using an ISO disk image. For this reason I would advise you to make sure this is correct.

            In fact, you could ask if this is correct in your comment at the very beginning that thread you wrote would like to start on this topic, as I think that having this clarified could be useful to many of us who have Macs.

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2421705

      For what it’s worth: I have updated to the latest patched version of Big Sur, that now has me running version 11.6.3; I have also updated Safari.

      So far, so good. If I have a problem likely to be caused by these updates, I’ll come back to tell you about it.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2421914

      AKB2000014 has been updated 1/28/2022 for the Jan 19/26 following updates:

      macOS Monterey 12.2
      macOS Big Sur 11.6.3
      macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2022-001
      iOS and iPadOS 15.3
      watchOS 8.4
      tvOS 15.3
      AirPod 3 version 4.2 firmware 4C170
      HomePod 15.3

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    • #2421990

      So far, I have updated the following without incident:

      iPhone SE (2) – iOS 15.3
      M1MacMini – macOS Big Sur 11.6.3 + Safari 15.3
      iMac4K – macOS Big Sur 11.6.3 + Safari 15.3
      15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7) – macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2022-001
      13″ MacBook Pro (Ivy Bridge i7) – macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2022-001

      Yet to be done:
      MacMini (Ivy Bridge i7) – macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2022-001
      iMac (Ivy Bridge i7) – macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security update 2022-001

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      • #2422211

        Finished updating the MacMini and iMac to Catalina 10.5.7 successfully on 1/30/22

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      • #2422383

        OK, here’s a good one for you.

        I had upgraded my 15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7, 2013 vintage) to the latest version of Catalina – mentioned above.
        Today (1/31/22) I upgraded that laptop to Big Sur 11.6.1 as offered. Afterward, I had to upgrade Paragon NTFS for Mac (allows read/write use of NTFS volumes on macOS) to a later version compatible with Big Sur and reassign permissions to it, my A/V software and my file syncing software. I have found if I turn those three applications off prior to upgrading I have less problems in the long run. The upgrade went smoothly.

        After several reboots, verifying important software still worked, and looking at my Parallels VMs, I upgraded the laptop again, to Big Sur 11.6.3 along with the Safari and Device connection updates. So far, no problems (except with 3 mice on the desk, I keep grabbing the wrong one).

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        • #2422429

          PK, Is Apple Mail working OK for you? (Assuming you use Mail as your email client.)

          In my case, after upgrading from Mojave to Big Sur, Mail went a bit flaky and, for example, stopped downloading emails without being made to do it by my clicking on the envelope icon. So I installed and now I am using Thunderbird, that turned out to be flakyness personified, only in a different way.

          I also had to change AV, because the old one stopped running properly. Besides that, I have not noticed any other problems after moving to Big Sur, but then I may not run as many, or the same, applications as you do.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2422499

            I have never used Apple Mail. I use Thunderbird on Macs and Win7/8.1/10.

    • #2422832

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/1/2022 for the Feb 1 following updates:

      watchOS 8.4.1 for watch series 4 and later. Bug fixes. This update has no published CVE entries.

    • #2422969

      So I was deciding when would be a good time to install Security Update 2022-001 on my Macbook Air running Catalina when I ran across this thread on Macrumors.

      https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-air-reboots-restarts-after-catalina-security-update-2022-001.2333346/

      Basically whats happening is some people with MacBook Airs, after installing 2022-001 if they put their laptop in sleep it automatically reboots. The only solution given so far is to reinstall Catalina and then ignore Security Update 2022-001.

      I don’t know if there will be a fix for this or not but I think i will be waiting a little longer before installing this latest Security Update. Any other suggestions?

      • #2422976

        I usually wait more than 2 weeks, and often 3 or 4, before installing mac security updates. I don’t keep records but it seems to me that there have been a few times in the last year or so where an update is offered, continues to be offered for a few days, then is no longer offered for a few days, and then is offered again. I have been able to correlate these instances with reports in places like macrumors, and others, that the update has actually been pulled. Of course, Apple rarely if ever admits to this. The suggestion by Apple Support (in the macrumors link above) to either wipe everything or reinstall Catalina is utterly ridiculous IMHO.

        I usually check for updates every couple days, so it will be interesting to see if the 2022-001 goes through the same offered/not offered cycle as above.

        I’ve been running 2 macs (an iMAC and a macbook air) since October 2017, starting with Sierra and moving to High Sierra, Mojave, and Catalina. Again, I don’t keep records but it seems that there has been a noticeable uptick in the number of reported problems with mac security updates.

        Bottom line for me right now is since we’re only 1 week past the original offer date (Jan 26), I’m waiting at least one more week.

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      • #2423076

        I installed the security update on 3 Catalina machines, one a 13″ MacBook Pro (Ivy Bridge i7, 2012 vintage). No reboot problems on any of them. The other two (iMac and MacMini, both Ivy Bridge i7s, same vintage) are running 2 Parallels VMs, Win8.1 and 10.

        But, I don’t allow any of them to sleep or turn off the HDD/SDDs.

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      • #2424330

        It’s been 2 weeks since the release of 2022-001 for Catalina. The issue of some MacBook Airs rebooting when in sleep after installing the above security update is unresolved. No reissue from Apple and no resolution on macrumors.

        I did find something similar on another thread here on AskWoody but not sure if it’s the same

        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/macos-monterey-releases/

        Sorry I don’t know how to link to the exact post but it’s the only post on January 29.  Yes it is Monterey and not Catalina but maybe something that can help with the Catalina issue.

        Not sure how much longer I should wait on this. It’s been frustrating.

      • #2425854

        So it’s been 3 weeks since Security Update 2022-001 for Catalina was released. Since then Security Update 2022-002 was released on February 14.  Unfortunately I do not have good news.  I am still holding back on installing as on Macrumors there are still users who are seeing reboots after putting there MacBook Airs to sleep.

        https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-air-reboots-restarts-after-catalina-security-update-2022-001.2333346/

        DrBonzo have you installed either of these Security Updates on your MacBook Air running Catalina? Have you had any issues?

        As an aside…I am still anxious about doing updates to my Catalina. I am sure some of you remember the issue I had with internet access last December. I still don’t know what happened and maybe more disturbing I’m  not sure how it was resolved!

        • #2425861

          @bassmanzam I have not yet installed any of the 2022 updates for Catalina on either my macBook Air or iMac. Earlier today I noticed I am no longer being offered the 2022-001 update, but only the 2022-002 update that just came out (and also a Safari update that came out on Feb 10 and the Device Update – or whatever it’s called that now seems to be almost omnipresent and is for “smooth” connections between different Apple devices, something I don’t care about at all). I’m hoping the security updates are cumulative. My plan was to install 001 this coming weekend but now that 002 is out I may delay.

          It does look as though there aren’t many users affected in the macrumors link you posted above (maybe a handful?)

          FWIW I’ve generally had few problems with Mac updates. None really on the iMAC (except they’re incredibly slow on it) and about a year ago a Safari and a security update didn’t play nice resulting in long boot times (2-3 minutes as opposed to the normal less than 1 minute. That seemed to get fixed on the next update cycle.

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          • #2425869

            I remember Nathan Parker saying that security updates are cumulative but can’t find it.

            As for the number of users affected…there are maybe a handful of users posting but there are 3K views of the thread!

             

             

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          • #2425872

            I remember Nathan Parker saying that as well as maybe PK Cano, but I can’t find it either

            Maybe the easiest thing is to not put the Air to sleep. My Air boots up quickly enough that I never put it in sleep mode. The main user of the iMAC (not me) always puts it to sleep so if that one starts rebooting I’m in trouble, especially because it takes a long time to boot (5 minutes, maybe).

            I try to remember to report here after I update, so if I do it this weekend, I’ll let you know how it goes.

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          • #2426487

            I just installed the latest Safari update and Catalina 2022-002 update on my mid 2017 macBook Air. Took about 3 minutes for Safari and about 12 minutes for the -002. Everything seems fine. Haven’t put it in sleep mode. Wasn’t offered the -001 after installing -002 (hadn’t previously installed -001).

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            • #2426721

              DrBonzo, any luck putting your MacBook Air to sleep?

            • #2426722

              I hardly ever put the Air to sleep. It’s either on or off. I’ve read the macrumors article and I’m not sure what the issue is. Does it get stuck in a reboot loop, or does it just reboot as soon as it’s put in sleep mode, effectively making it impossible to put it in sleep mode? Or something else? On those rare occasions when I leave my Air on, it just goes to screen saver after 15 minutes.

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            • #2426791

              I had a sleep/reboot problem with my iMac and after doing a Google search, found this Apple Support solution that worked for me.  After putting the Mac to sleep, it would wake on it’s on and reboot.  This apparently fixed it.  No longer happens.

              https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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            • #2428228

              FWIW I updated a Catalina iMAC last night with the 2022-002 update and the latest Safari update. The Safari and 002 updates were offered as well as an upgrade to Monterey and the device support update. The 001 update had been offered but wasn’t as soon as the 002 came out. Some observations:

              The Safari update took about 15 minutes before saying that the installation failed. I checked Safari and the build number is what it should be after installing the patch. It also seemed to work just fine so I’m assuming the installation was successful. This has happened now at least 3 times.

              The 002 update went in and took about 50 minutes. Seems OK although when I checked for App updates it told me all apps were up to date, which is not correct; I had 3 updates before the -002 installation. Also, I was unable to check for software updates in Preferences. Just got the spinning circle for 5 minutes a few times. I put the iMAC to sleep and there was no rebooting issue. Checked for App updates this morning and told me I had 3. But I still can’t check for software updates – all I get is the spinning circle.

              I am slowly becoming more disappointed with macOS patching. Stuff like I just described is becoming more frequent. I never thought I’d say this but patching 2 Win 8.1 machines and a Win 10 Home machine I had shoved at me 3 months ago that I need to maintain is now better than patching the Macs. They go in quickly, no drama, and no niggly weird stuff like I saw above on the iMAC.

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            • #2428241

              So I waited long enough and installed the latest security updates for my MBA running Catalina.  I decided to take my time by installing 1 update a day and waiting/testing the update for a day.

              I was first offered 2022-002 and Safari 15.3. On Tuesday I started by updating 2022-002. It took less than 15 minutes from downlad to installed.  I rebooted and had no adverse effects. I tested on Wednesday and put it to sleep a couple of times without getting the “reboot bug”.

              On Thursday, I was offered Safari 15.3 and also the “bonus” update Device Support Update.  I installed the Safari Update and took under 5 minutes.  Again I rebooted after the update even though it was not required. I didn’t see any issues after the update. Again I put it to sleep without the “reboot bug”.

              Finally on Saturday, I was offered the “bonus” update and  installed in under 5 minutes without any problems. Rebooted even though not required. No adverse issues after installing.

              The reason for installing only 1 update at a time was for 2 issues. First, the sleep/reboot issue that was discussed on MacRumours. Even though the issue wasn’t fully resolved I believe the security update 2022-002 solved the problem from 2022-001.  Second, I had issues installing the last update for 2021 where I lost internet access. I wanted to see which update caused the problem but it apparently didn’t happen this time which I am grateful for.

               

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            • #2428249

              In the interest of fairness, I should say that the iMAC is always much slower than my MBA, the latter of which took less than 5 minutes for the Safari update and about 13 for the 002 update.

              On Windows and Macs I always install one update at a time so that if things go south I’ll know what caused it. Linux Mint is the only OS I install all offered updates at the same time because it’s extremely rare to have any issue with Mint updates.

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            • #2428474

              I’ve noticed the same endless spinning when trying to install the latest update to macOS Big Sur, last week.

              I attributed it to very busy servers on Apple’s side. Maybe too many people trying to download the update at the same time? Are the servers shared by the updates to macOS, iOS, etc?

              Tried the following day and things worked out as usual with my internet connection and machine: 20 minutes to download and then prepare for installation the several GB of data; followed by another 20 minutes for installing the update.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2424506

      Bassmanzam: “Sorry I don’t know how to link to the exact post

      Maybe this could help: Copy the “#” number on top right of the exact post and paste it where you need it linked.

      For example:  #2424330  links your comment to mine. This works also through separate threads and forums.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2424517

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/10/2022 for the Feb 11 following updates:

      macOS Monterey 12.2.1
      iOS/iPadOS 15.3.1 build 19D52
      watchOS 8.4.2  This update has no published CVE entries.

      There is also an update for Safari 15.3 for macOS Catalina and macOS Big Sur.
      See #2424503 on the main blog.

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    • #2425326

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/14/2022 for the Feb 14 following updates:

      macOS Big Sur 11.6.4 This update has no published CVE entries. (2.21GB download)
      macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2022-02 This update has no published CVE entries. (1.5GB download)

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    • #2425345

      I have updated one MacBook Pro (2012 vintage Ivy Bridge i7) with Catalina Security Update 2022-02 + a Device Support update and one M1 MacMini to Big Sur 11.6.4 with no problems. On the MacMini now.

      Still have x2 Big Sur and x2 Catalina to go. Will post when time allows.

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      • #2425358

        PK,

        Maybe I missed it, but if not, some day, you might tell us all about your M1 experiences, yes?

        For example, what things you liked, or those you needed and still need even now, that used to work fine in your Intel Macs, but do not work for you quite as well, or at all anymore in the M1, for example.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

        • #2425461

          Everything I use/need seems to run on the M1 MacMini.

          Screen-Shot-2022-02-15-at-7.09.40-AM

          Screen-Shot-2022-02-15-at-7.10.24-AM

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    • #2426492

      Please, notice the following explanation of the latest macOS Catalina and Big Sur updates here:

      https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      In particular, to this two entries at the top of the table there:

      macOS Big Sur 11.6.4
      This update has no published CVE entries. macOS Big Sur 14 Feb 2022
      Security Update 2022-002 Catalina
      This update has no published CVE entries. macOS Catalina 14 Feb 2022

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2426552

      PK, I did and it was in the back of my mind, that is why I looked into this yesterday. But it was nearly a week after you placed that post and I have had a LOT on my mind this last week, besides this update, so I did not remember where that update-back-of-my-mind feeling came from.

      And by the way: I finally updated last night, as nobody seemed to have suffered some serious injury after installing this update, so far. And things with my Mac, again at least so far, are still looking normal.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2429078

      Possible iOS 15.3.1 Issue

      After installing 15.3.1 two weeks ago, it is about the same time my aging, but faithful 6S, began to rapidly lose battery percentage when using the phone for any purpose.  You can see the % go down percent by percent.  Not really noticeable when in sleep mode.  I’ve read where iOS updates can cause battery problems, but they’ve never affected me until now.  For lack of anything else, I’m blaming 15.3.1.  Have any of you experienced this?  FYI, regardless, I’m planning to replace the 6S with the new 5E 5G when it’s out and available.  I know the 6S won’t last forever, but I do like it’s size and feel in my hand.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2429194

        Try shutting down and restarting your 6S.
        SE 5G will likely be announced on March 8

        • #2429241

          Thanks, Alex.  I had tried  that before posting about the problem, but with no noticeable results.  I did some additional research and found that this is a known issue with 15.3.1 that may be fixed in 15 .4.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2431667

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/14/2022 for the Mar 14 following updates:

      macOS Monterey 12.3  (12.22GB download)
      macOS Big Sur 11.6.5  (2.55GB download)
      macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2022-003  (1.51GB download)
      iOS/iPadOS 15.4
      watchOS 8.5
      tvOS 15.4
      HomePod Software 15.4

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    • #2431676

      Thanks PK. I just checked and the update 11.6.5 for Big Sur is waiting to be installed. There is no explanation of what is supposed to do.  Given that, I’ll wait a week, see what happens to those who install early.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2431678

        There is information on the Security content linked above.

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    • #2431677

      I’ve updated one Big Sur 11.6.5 and one Catalina Security Update 2022-003 – no problems so far.

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    • #2431895

      Updated my 2019 iMac to 12.3 today, as well as my aging 6S to 15.4…hoping it will improve the battery drain issue.  If not, I’ve my eye on the SE 2022.  So far, no problems with either update.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2431986

      OK, now 3x Big Sur and 2x Catalina updates – and still no problems.
      One more Catalina to go….

      Oh, and an iPhone SE2 to iOS 15.4

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    • #2432012

      I am curious to know how those who are running Monterey on Intel Macs and install this latest update 12.3, are doing in coming weeks and even months, for example pmcjr6142 who just did that.

      I am of the impression that Monterey may be more biased towards M1 (“Silicon”) stuff, such as applications, and less friendly to that for Intel Macs.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2432018

        OscarCP, I’ll post any problems that occur, but for now, after 12.2, 12.2.1, and now 12.3, I can’t detect any differences in Monterey from Catalina and Big Sur.  As to applications, all my apps are Apple stock apps except for Malwarebytes.  I rarely use Apple apps except for Pages.  I’m a very basic Mac user.  I haven’t heard that about M1 and Monterey, but I would also like to know.  I think there would be a real uproar if Apple expects us to junk our Intel Macs for new M1 Macs.  One little trick I did learn myself after the 12.3 update is this…after an update the Mac is very slow for a couple of days until the update settles down.  This time I had the idea to put it to sleep for a minute after the update completed and all was fine.  No spinning beach balls and all was back to normal.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2432567

          Oscar et all, the only problem I’ve experienced with 12.3 so far is (remember I’m a very basic user, so I haven’t had the need to delve too deeply in the Mac’s functionality)….Siri is not responsive to any “weather” questions, eg, what’s the temp, forecast, etc.  It captures and displays my question, so I know the microphone is working. Other non weather questions work as before.  I’m not aware of any changes to Preferences in Siri or Location Services.  It still shows weather.app as checked and weather is still working in my Notification Center widget.  What happens in Siri is this…it records my question and then Siri quickly quits.  My Google searches don’t identify this problem specifically and all point to various Siri preferences which look OK to me.  So, since nothing has changed except 12.3, I’m thinking that’s the cause/reason for the Siri weather problem.  This is not enough to have kept me from updating to 12.3, but it is annoying.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

          • #2432594

            pmcjr6142: OK, I did not even know that one can do that with Siri, because I killed it as soon as I installed macOS the first time. There is a way to find out about the local weather by sweeping across the Desktop screen to the right, that also brings up the current goings on at stock exchanges and other stuff. I suppose that there is a way to setup and customize it, but I never have tried to find out. Nevertheless, that is there.

            For weather information more general, across the region and the country, I use the Website “Wunderground”, now part of the “Weather Channel” company. It carries NWS warnings, real-time animated radar weather maps of the last hour’s weather developments, from local, to regional, to the whole of the USA and the near parts of Canada and Mexico; it has videos that I also watch, about the weather in coming days and things to do with the weather, some of which interest me to know about. If you do not live in the USA, there might be something similar where you are located.

            Also my local newspaper, “The Washington Post”, has an online weather section known as “The Capital Weather Gang” with articles on the weather today and in coming days, as well as warnings, etc. focused on these whereabouts  Maybe some newspaper in your area has a similar online section.

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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          • #2434691

            This problem with Siri not responding to weather related questions has suddenly corrected itself and is now functioning as it did pre OS 12.3.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2432515

      I have installed the updates 11.6.5 to Big Sur and 15.4 to Safari.

      With my fiber-optic, but not superfast connection and my mid-2015 MacBook Pro, it took 20 minutes to download the 2.55 GB, 15 minutes to “prepare” the updates, 23 minutes to install them. Altogether 58 minutes, give or take, or approximately one hour altogether. With the usual exciting and several times repeated moments when the screen goes all black and one does not know if the installation is proceeding normally or the Mac just gave up the ghost.

      Well, this time this one survived and that is why I am able to write this now.

      I have tried all my critical applications, and some I have just for fun, and they seem to be working.

      If something worth remarking upon comes up later on, I’ll be back to report about it.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2434661

      I installed Catalina Security Update 2022-003 on my MBA on Thursday without any issues. Downloaded and installed in about 15 minutes.

      I then installed Safari 15.4 on Saturday again without any issues.

      I was surprised that I wasn’t offered the “bonus” update, Device Support Update, this time.  Did I miss it or what?

      Until next time.

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      • #2434670

        I installed both safari and Catalina updates last night, also and it took about 15 minutes on my MBA. I was not offered the Device Support Update this time either. It’s also not offered on my Catalina iMAC (I’ve installed the safari update but not the -003 update yet on it).

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    • #2435766

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/31/2022 for the Mar 31 following updates:

      MacOS Monterey 12.3.1
      iOS 15.4.1
      iPadOS 15.4.1
      watchOS 8.5.1  This update has no published CVE entries.
      tvOS 15.4.1 This update has no published CVE entries.
      HomePod 15.4.1

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      • #2435772

        It would also be interesting to know for how long Mojave shall continue to be supported with occasional security patches, being for Macs with Intel CPUs.

        We’ll just have to wait to know the answer until we get there, I guess.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

        • #2435773

          Mojave was EOL November 2021 – no longer gets support.
          Catalina will probably be EOL the end of this year.

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          • #2435775

            Mojave is not longer supported by Apple, but at least as I have understood this, and is the reason I wrote “occasional security patches”, these have been sent to users of older versions of macOS no longer “supported.” And also that there is a limit to this, but is probably after several years.

            So, if that is not so, I’d like to know what has been the real situation until now.

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2435780

              The latest version of Mojave is 10.14.6
              The latest record of update is: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Security Update 2021-005 issued July 21, 2021.
              It’s over, done, EOL

            • #2435797

              PK, What I wrote is because I seem to remember, perhaps incorrectly, you writing some time ago that you had some (I think) old Macs, well past their on support period, that were still getting some security updates, occasionally.

              I need to get this clarified.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2435855

              They are on Catalina, their last hoorah. So up to date presently.
              Ivy Bridge i7s – three of them. 2012 vintage.

              Mojave is dead.

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            • #2435964

              Thanks, PK, that is clear enough.

              Looking around, I run into this article that I think people should read, because I think is relevant to the reason for this conversation, as well as cogently written:

              https://www.zdnet.com/article/its-long-past-time-for-apple-to-step-up-and-actively-support-older-machines/

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2435774

      Just updated my iPhone SE2 to iOS 15.4.1. It’s up and running apparently with no problems so far.
      That’s the only update I have in this round.

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      • #2435838

        Likewise for me.  No problems with iOS 15.4.1 or macOS 12.3.1.  I’ve learned to avoid the slowdown in Mac responsivness (spinning beach ball) after an update, immediately put the Mac in sleep mode for an hour after the update completes.  When you wake it up, all is fine.  Works for me.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2436298

      I have a couple of issues with my MBA running Catalina.

      I am being offered Safari 15.4 again after it was released on March 15. I am hesitant about installing it, again since Safari 15.4 is listed in my Software Installations. If it was Safari 15.4.1 I would install. Anybody else seeing this?

      Also, I ran my weekly Time Machine backup, and it was backing up over 12GB of data.  I went to Applications folder and found the Monterey Installer with a date of March 31. This was downloaded without my permission about a month ago and I just left it and did not delete it.  It seems this “2nd” download over righted what was there and triggered Time Machine to backup. Anyone seeing this?

       

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      • #2436307

        I have found the 12GB “Install macOS Monterrey.app” in Finder/Applications, installed yesterday evening. So I imagine that when I decide to install Monterrey, I  won’t have to wait an extra half hour for the whole thing to download, would I?

        Hmmm …

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2436341

        I’m seeing the same Safari behavior on my MBA and iMAC both running up to date Catalina (through the latest .003 update).

        I had a big Time machine backup a week ago on the MBA but it had been a while since I had used it so I didn’t think much about it.

        But I just checked the MBA and I have a Monterey installer in Launchpad and have for a while. When I go to System Information/System Report/Installations I see two entries for “macOS Monterey” (which is a misleading name IMHO since Monterey isn’t installed – just sayin’), one for version 12.2.1 dated March 2, 2022 and one for version 12.3 dated March 26, 2022. I’m being offered Monterey 12.3.1 in Software Update.

        I’m not installing Safari 15.4 again unless Apple says it’s a new build of 15.4. Of course they’re pretty slow sometimes with their documentation.

        This kind of nonsense is what I expect from MS, not Apple.

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        • #2436484

          montereyblocker

          Detect when Install macOS Monterey.app installer application has launched, terminate the process and display an alert….

          The binary requires at least macOS 10.9, however it has been tested only on macOS 10.10, 10.11, 10.12, 10.13, 10.14 and 10.15.

          Note. It seems that macOS 10.10 and 10.11 have trouble installing a signed and notarized package. Use the unsigned package available from the releases page if deploying on those. The signed and notarized package can be used on macOS 10.12 and later….

          Hope this helps.

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          • #2436502

            I do not think that the “Install macOS.version etc.app” starts installing unless one launches it first. It has never happened to me. Has anyone else here had a different experience?

            Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

            MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
            Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
            macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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            • #2436509

              I think you are correct. I think the issue some people have is that it just seems to show up without any warning, advisory, or user consent. As long as it doesn’t launch unless I tell it to, I don’t have a big problem, although it does kind of smack of MS tactics.

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      • #2436427

        The Monterey Installer has been downloaded to eligible Macs in the past.
        It is my guess that each time Monterey gets an update, the updated Installer is re-downloaded so if you decide to upgrade you are not using an older version. Monterey was updated to v12.3.1 on 3/31, hence the recent download.

        Also, the Safari update probably has security fixes, so my advice is to install it. I have installed it on all my Macs.

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      • #2436470

        I personally don’t have a problem with having the Monterey installer downloaded. A Mojave installer and I think Big Sur installer were also downloaded at some point in the past.

        I do have a problem with the Safari 15.4 update. If there really is a new update that includes fixes that were not in the original 15.4 update from March 15, then Apple needs to tell us. Otherwise it really looks like we’re being asked to install the same update. I haven’t been able to find what the very latest build version for Safari is supposed to be; I’d like to be able to compare it to what’s on my Macs.

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        • #2436581

          I agree with DrBonzo about Safari 15.4. Apple needs to let us know how this “new” version differs from the original. I’ll wait until I hear.

          I’ll let the Monterey installer rest until I need to update probably sometime in the summer.

           

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          • #2436596

            That’s my strategy for Monterey installer as well.

            FWIW: When I was running High Sierra on my iMAC i noticed the Mojave installer, which I was going to use to update to Mojave. Unfortunately, I waited too long and didn’t try to update until after Catalina came out. No matter what I did I couldn’t get the Mojave installer to do anything. I gave up and just installed Catalina since it was offered in Software Update. Looking back, I think there was a way to download Mojave and install it, but I was pretty new to MAC at the time and just figured I’d update to Catalina the same way I’d updated to High Sierra from Sierra. This time I’m not going to wait until whatever the new OS after Monterey is called comes out. I’d rather have Monterey after it’s been around a year than have the newest macOS which always seems to take a while to the bugs worked out.

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            • #2436605

              My Mac becomes “vintage” in July of next year and then, in principle is no longer going to get any more patches or updates. But I wonder if, when that happens, I have the latest version of macOs installed, by whatever Californian name it is called, would this make any difference and I’ll get patched still after July, for as long as that macOS version is the current one?

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2436710

              My Ivy Bridge Macs, 2012 vintage, are/have been vintage for a while.
              The last MacOS version they are eligible for is Catalina.
              They get updates/security fixes as long as Catalina does. When Catalina stops getting updates/is EOL, then they won’t get updates either.
              Vintage has to do with the hardware, updates are for the OS.

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    • #2436783

      When Catalina stops getting updates/is EOL

      Catalina will EOL when the next MacOS is out before the end of 2022.

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    • #2436808

      Thank you, PK and Alex for clarifying this.

      I have spent hours trying to find information on this searching the Web without getting some clear statements that were not contradicted by others somewhere else. As well as oodles of plain irrelevant stuff.

      Searching for answers to things of a general character is not working very well at all with e.g. Google anymore. Often, asking about something like this, I get links to Rock bands, companies that sell cakes, and whatever else one can possibly imagine that has absolutely nothing to do with what I was looking for, even putting relevant terms between quotation marks. Technical, scientific and certain news can be found most of the time, because they are about very specific things, if not, using site:edu or site:gov or site:org can help, but is no guarantee of success.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2436816

        Apple does not publish official EOL dates, but typically provides security updates for the current release of macOS, as well as the previous two releases.

        https://computing.cs.cmu.edu/desktop/os-lifecycle

        • #2436829

          Alex, Thanks, but I think you might have posted the wrong link: there is nothing like your quotation there that I’ve been able to find.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2436956

      PK, not sure if you’ve seen this, but MacRumors has a thread in each macOS version for “unsupported” macs. It’s  way past my pay grade but might be a way to extend the life of your vintage macs.

      https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-11-big-sur-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2242172/

       

      • #2436961

        bassmanzam: If one has a supported version, preferably the latest version, of macOS already installed when a Mac becomes “vintage”, one continues getting updates until that version of macOS reaches EOL, and then that is that.

        So I am informed, quite unambiguously, by someone who is an well-known expert on Macs whose advice to me has been always right and useful.

        Accordingly, I am planning to upgrade to whatever comes out this Autumn after Monterey, so when my Mac becomes vintage in July next year, I can continue to run it with the necessary updates to this, until that time the latest version of macOS, for another two years and change after that, the security ones in particular that, in this day and age, we really need to have if we intend to go online at all.

        By then, this Mac will be more than eight years old and ready for retirement.

        All of  the above subject to Apple still supporting Macs with Intel CPUs for that long, as well as the developers of the applications I need to have in the Mac sending the necessary security updates for theirs. If not, too bad; the plan will just have to be moved forwards accordingly.

        Probably I’ll replace it with a laptop with Linux pre-installed. I have been advised to buy a System76 with Pop! Linux on it. I have asked around, including in AskWoody, and the answers have been very positive.

        Before that, while this Mac is still running well, I am going to install Linux Pop! (and then possibly other distros) on a VM on the Mac, to test it and also to try out the applications that work with it and will let me do the things I can do with the Mac that I still will need to do when running Linux, to be ready for the big switch when the time comes.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2436973

          By the way, the advice I got from that Macs expert I know agrees with what PK wrote further back in answer to a related question of mine. It was summarized as follows: “Vintage has to do with the hardware, updates are for the OS.”

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2437040

        @bassmanzam , that is interesting.

        HOWEVER – the Macs I have, that will stop getting OS updates with Catalina going EOL, are 2012 vintage (10 year-old Intel Ivy Bridge i7s). I run Windows VMs on them, but they do not qualify to run Win11. Two of the three (an iMac and a MacMini) have spinner HDDs, which are already struggling with multiple large VM files. And, I have maxed out the RAM to 16GB on all three – limiting the amount I can dedicate to a VM.

        I do not need just another Mac to use for the normal computer stuff. I have used them to run VMs to keep up with Windows stuff in order to to provide info here. I will never buy another “just Windows” machine. MS has gone where I will not follow for my computing needs. I am totally fed up, sick and tired of, tweaking and pruning just to get a workable system.

        The 2021 M1 MacMini runs Win11 on ARM Insider and the Intel Kaby Lake i7 iMac4K runs Win8.1 and Win10 VMs, so I will carry on with that. And when 2013 Haswell i7 15″ MacBook Pro goes EOL with Monterey (when I update from Big Sur I will have almost another 2 years), I will replace it with another MBP with the biggest M1 chip I can afford. At my age, I have been shucking equipment right and left, and by 2025 when Win10 dies, two desktops (which I use simultaneously) and a laptop for travel will be sufficient for my needs and a lot less time-consuming hassle.

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        • #2437245

          Perhaps, if one could, it might be better to wait for the “M2” Macs?

          I understand that there is a new, upgraded version of the M1 chip already used in some new Macs, so changes in hardware, the CPU in particular (and the GPU, if future chips no longer are soc), are going to continue and maybe a bit faster than before, as they have for Apple’s cell phones.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2437907

            OscarCP, This maybe of interest to you if thinking on new Mac.

            ” JWSC said about 12 hours ago
            My Mac Studio with M1 Max arrived earlier this week. Migration assistant from my 27″ Intel iMac worked well and took only 5-6 hours for the data transfer to complete.

            I was anxious to verify that the applications transferred over still worked. I opened up several programs and they ran without issue. I was particularly interested to see how SketchUp Pro was working on the Studio since I got the M1 Max with 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine, with 64GB of unified memory. I knew it would be a huge leap in performance, and wow it was. I had assumed that since it was installed as Intel binaries on my Intel iMac and that SketchUp Pro and the other apps were running under Rosetta 2. I planned to delete SketchUp Pro and reinstall it on the Studio with M1 binaries.

            But before I did, I decided to run Civilization IV, my favorite time killer. And low and behold, a dialog box pops up and tells me that this is an Intel application and asks me if I want to install Rosetta 2. I installed it and Civ IV worked like a charm. But the interesting thing is that SketchUp Pro and the other apps I ran before apparently had both Intel and M1 binaries at installation. They were running natively on the M1 Max. I hadn’t expected that. If anyone has any insight into how this works I’d be interested.”

            https://appleinsider.com/inside/14-inch-macbook-pro/vs/mac-studio-vs-14-inch-macbook-pro-the-1999-shootout

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    • #2436974

      there is nothing like your quotation there that I’ve been able to find.

      You should scroll to MacOS Catalina and click (on the right side) on ‘see note’

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    • #2437458

      I understand that there is a new, upgraded version of the M1 chip already used in some new Macs

      There are M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max, M1 Ultra.
      M2 may be announced at WWDC 2022.

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      • #2438038

        Thanks. It is a clearly useful thing that Universal applications download both Intel and Silicon compatible versions.

        In my case, unless something goes very wrong with my present Mac’s hardware and if Apple continues to follow its well-established support policies (a rather big if), then by updating to the successor of Monterey, I might be able to keep getting the updates to that OS and some applications for nearly four more years from now, so my decision on what to replace this one with could be still some years away. Then I’ll have to see what things are like at that time.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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        • #2438127

          OscarCP…I’m with you on this.  My 2019 iMac is my first and only Mac.  Before making the move from my aging Dell PC, I spent weeks on You Tube learning about Macs, how to set one up, etc etc.  The thought of doing that again on anything different from my current configuration and preferences is stressful.  For that reason, I keep my Mac current with updates and the latest OS hopeful it will last as long as possible.  If and when we do have to move on to a new Mac, why don’t you do it first and tell us about the experience.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2438196

      if Apple continues to follow its well-established support policies (a rather big if), then by updating to the successor of Monterey, I might be able to keep getting the updates to that OS

      I suppose you are aware that Apple hasn’t patched (yet) 2 zero-day bugs (in-the-wild) in Big Sur and Catalina while patching Monterey.
      So, maybe upgrading to Monterey now and not waiting for MacOS 13 is a better choice.

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      • #2438292

        A P P L E !!! Why have you forsaken me!!

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        • #2438463

          Or it could be that, for some reason, Catalina and Big Sur are so designed that these Zero days cannot thrive in them. I think it is too early to decamp and run: maybe there is nothing to worry about. Except that nobody seems to have a good idea of what is going on and apparently nothing has been heard from Apple about this so far.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2438291

      I am still on Big Sur and am happy with it and did not plan on upgrading to Monterey. However, due to this warning of the 2 zero-day patches I’m now considering updating to Monterey.

      What are the pitfalls/problems associated with downloading and using Monterey?  Are the initial bugs fixed?  I would appreciate hearing from users who have upgraded from Big Sur to Monterey (and those who have not due to concerns).

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    • #2438396

      I bit the bullet and just installed Monterey.  I encountered no problems.  I keep very little on the IMac — just a few email accounts with very little on them.  So I can’t say if others have a lot of apps etc. if they would have such an easy time but that was my experience.  It took all of two hours from start to finish.  I believe Big Sur was a more extensive upgrade as when it was installed there was an accompanying tutorial about using Big Sur — I did not see anything like that with Monterey.

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    • #2438453

      Correction:  the tutorial explaining the different features of Monterey did come up the next time I was at the computer.  None of the features were of interest to me but I’m glad that I am now on Monterey for the added security.

      • #2438640

        My experiences mirror Anonymous.  My 2019 iMac came with Catalina.  I upgraded to Big Sur shortly after it came out and likewise to Monterey.  No problems with either.  I was not concerned nor interested in new features….I am a very basic Mac/internet/gmail user.  I upgraded for the additional security hopefully contained in each OS updates.  As to tutorials, I rely on articles in Macworld, Macrumors, etc.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2438660

      I just upgraded from Big Sur to Monterey on my M1 MacMini. Took about 30 minutes since the 12GB installer had previously downloaded and I didn’t have to wait for that.

      Couldn’t stand the garish lock screen, so it still looks like the mountains of Big Sur. And didn’t want the Auto notifications from everything installed, so turned that off. But otherwise, using it now with no problems so far.

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    • #2438670

      Apple fixed iOS 15.4 Studio Display Update Issue.

      Apple has stopped signing iOS 15.4 after releasing iOS 15.4.1 so Studio Display (the display runs iOS) users could update to iOS 15.4.

      Apple has now re-signed iOS 15.4 for Studio Display.

    • #2438775

      Having a look around for recent commentary on the missing fixes for the two zero-days in Catalina and Big Sur, I found a 6-day old article that, since it came out, has been quoted repeatedly by others blogging on Mac security issues.

      This is an Intego article that has been linked already by Alex here: #2438196  . What got  my attention reading it now, after doing my Web search for more news on this issue, and this is why I bring it up again, is that it says there that this is not the first time something like this happens with versions of macOS still fully supported: It not only has happened before, but also too often for comfort.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2440665

      Apple has released a second beta of security update 11.6.6 for the latest zero-days in the wild that can affect Big Sur. So a official release must be coming — one of these days.

      There are two or three articles like this one tonight on the Web, I chose this one a random, because they all say much the same:

      https://www.mobylak.com/apple-seeds-second-beta-of-macos-monterey-12-4-to-developers/

      Excerpt:  “Another release candidate version of macOS Big Sur 11.6.6 has also been seeded.

      No news about Catalina.

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      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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    • #2441295

      After 3 weeks since Monterey received the updates to protect it from the two 0-day bugs out in the wild, but with the update for Big Sur still only in beta and no indication of when the update will be released for regular users, or even why is this happening, I decided that enough was enough and upgraded to Monterrey. The download, preparation and actual install took about 45 minutes, roughly the same time for the download + prep. (not shown separately, as usual, but as a single step indicating time to installation) and then for the actual install in my Mac (the laptop, etc. are described in the signature panel below.)

      Most of my applications, at least those I have tried so far, were still working, except for my compilers, and those I really need to do my work.

      So I decided to install the latest versions of the GNU ones. For that, first I had to install (again) Xcode, then re-install de GNU’s GCC library of compilers, that turned out to re-enable also the Intel compilers, as they also needed a tool that went missing after installing Monterey and that was reinstalled by doing the above. Something quite lucky for me, as the Intel compilers have a helpful traceback feature to flag where in the code does a run-time error occur, that is much better than the one in GCC. But the Intel compilers are actually quite pricey and not that easy to buy, so it would have been an unpleasant hassle to have to buy the latest version and then install it (also not a straightforward thing to do), hoping that Monterey would then be nice to it.

      So, just as I suspected, the old saying once more has proven to be so very true: ” There is always somethin’ “

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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      • #2441343

        And the compilers may just be your hurdle when/if you change to the Mx ARM based Macs.

        • #2441399

          PK, I know. That is why I intend to stick with this Intel Mac I have for as long as possible. Next year I’ll update to the successor of Monterey before my Mac becomes “Vintage” in mid-July. Then, in principle, I can keep it supported until sometime in 2026, assuming other things I need are still are also supported with updates, except for than the compilers that get none. If I can keep going that long (Apple still allowing it), then this Mac is going to be, by then, some 8.5 years old, which is old enough for me.

          In practice, I’ll probably have moved to a new Mac by then, or to a Linux PC. I’ll make up my mind about that when I decide that the time has come to make such a move.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2441429

      Two questions:

      Let’s say someone has an Intel Mac, has kept up with doing back ups using always the same Time Machine drive for maybe five or six years, and now buys an M1 Mac:

      (1) Can this hypothetical person keep using the same TM drive as before if there is still plenty of space left in it?

      (2) Can, at the very least, copy previously backed up files from the old Intel Mac’s TM into the new M1 Mac’s SSD?

      I’ll appreciate very much getting some practical and concrete answers. Thanks for that in advance.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2441449

        Two questions:

        Let’s say someone has an Intel Mac, has kept up with doing back ups using always the same Time Machine drive for maybe five or six years, and now buys an M1 Mac:

        (1) Can this hypothetical person keep using the same TM drive as before if there is still plenty of space left in it?

        (2) Can, at the very least, copy previously backed up files from the old Intel Mac’s TM into the new M1 Mac’s SSD?

        I’ll appreciate very much getting some practical and concrete answers. Thanks for that in advance.

        Check this link out at MacWorld
        https://www.macworld.com/article/234850/macos-move-files-data-icloud-macbook-intel.html

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2441481

      I’ll probably have moved to a new Mac by then, or to a Linux PC.

      But Linux won’t run the Intel compilers which is what is holding you from moving to Mac silicon.

      • #2441542

        Alex: “But Linux won’t run the Intel compilers which is what is holding you from moving to Mac silicon.

        Yes, there is that about the “Silicon” RISC Macs.

        On the other hand, there are Intel compilers for Linux, a notoriously multi-platform OS that also runs on computers with Intel CPU, and this is the latest, as of this year, about them:

        https://www.winteracter.com/newsoneapi.htm

        https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-empowers-developers-oneapi-2022-toolkits.html

        In any case, whether this is an issue some more years down the line, is something for the future, as things always change, a little or a lot, but they surely change.

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        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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    • #2441484

      (1) Can this hypothetical person keep using the same TM drive as before if there is still plenty of space left in it?

      (2) Can, at the very least, copy previously backed up files from the old Intel Mac’s TM into the new M1 Mac’s SSD?

      The answer to both questions is YES.
      You can restore Intel Time Machin to M1 Mac providing both are on same MacOS.

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      • #2441503

        You can copy/restore data files from Intel Macs to M1 Macs on the same MacOS/file system.
        The question arises:
        Will the ARM-based M1 Mac run the Intel compilers?
        And will the code compiled on the ARM-based M1 Mac run on the Intel Macs?

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        • #2441545

          PKCano wrote: “Will the ARM-based M1 Mac run the Intel compilers?

          The Intel compilers are optimized for running on computers with Intel CPUs. So the answer is probably “no” unless they can be run, and run well, using Rosetta 2, which I tend to doubt. But Intel’s are not the only OK compilers out there with a good traceback feature and that might also run on Mx Macs, which for me is one important reason to use the Intel compilers in combination of the GNU GCC ones.

          One problem, often a real bothersome one when changing compilers. is that then we get all sorts of nagging and even fatal compile time error messages when recompiling old code with the new compiler, because different compiler makers make different sloppy mistakes and have different interpretations on the rules of the language they develop their compilers for. Then one has to go back to the source code, finding where the problems are there and rewriting those portions of the code. Not a lot of fun to do.

          This should not happen, but it does. We should not die (in our own opinion at least), but we do.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2441549

      Today, less than two  days since I installed Monterey, looking at the Activity Monitor, as I do now and then, I discovered an application that was gobbling up a huge amount of CPU time called “mds_stores”

      So I looked around and found out that what this one does is to create a database of items on the Mac for “Spotlight” to find them when one does a search with it. Now “Spotlight” is something I find useful, now and then, to find out where in the Mac SSD I have something I remember having but not where I put it. But I have never seen it taking as much CPU with no signs to quit doing that. (It goes down now and then, then up again, to 60% or more of CPU).

      This does at least three unintended things that Mac users that discover this do not appreciate: it slows down the Mac and also uses considerably more memory as well as more battery power than otherwise.

      So in my exploration of this issue I found advice on how to deal with this:

      https://www.imacnerd.com/ways-to-fix-the-mds-stores-error/

      There is advice from several other places as well, but is all pretty much the same in all of them and this one has the advantage of being short and to the point.

      There are different approaches, as explained there. I have chosen the one to to turn mds_stores off, because my Mac has an iffy battery that soon will need replacing. After that, I’ll let mds_stores rip for a day or two, see if it calms down after that. I search mostly for older things I no longer remember where I put them, so the current, not further updated data base should be OK for finding those. There, is, of course, a way to turn mds_stores on again, and it is explained also in the article.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2441553

      Today, less than two  days since I installed Monterey, looking at the Activity Monitor, as I do now and then, I discovered an application that was gobbling up a huge amount of CPU time called “mds_stores”

      It seems no different when indexing Windows (or iOS) PCs after new OS updates.
      It usually takes a couple of days for the system to settle down.

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    • #2441954

      NASA has decided, unsurprisingly, that it is time to move from Big Sur to Monterey, so I am not the only one updating two Macs from Big Sur to Monterey: mine three days ago and now the one from NASA I was given for telecommuting to my Center.

      By the way, the download to the NASA Mac is painfully slow. At the rate it is going, it should take nearly three hours to complete. In my own Mac, at home, the same 12.16 GB download took some 20 minutes.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2442031

        By the way, the download to the NASA Mac is painfully slow. At the rate it is going, it should take nearly three hours to complete. In my own Mac, at home, the same 12.16 GB download took some 20 minutes.

        That’s because your Mac had pre-downloaded the installer (remember Users complaining about it being downloaded without permission?) but it had not been downloaded to the NASA Mac (possibly b/c of their required settings?).
        Now you know why the installer was already on your Mac. Saved you the downtime.

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    • #2442010

      At the rate it is going, it should take nearly three hours to complete. In my own Mac, at home, the same 12.16 GB download took some 20 minutes.

      Can’t you copy the file from on Mac to the other ? Copy of 12.16 GB should take 2 min.

    • #2442203

      KP and Alex,

      According to a NASA Help Desk person I asked about this in an email, the main reason is that I was downloading the update from NASA to the Mac at my place via the secure VPN.

      But the other reason given by PK is also true in my case. I could not find the “install.monterey.app” in Finder/Applications or Finder/Utilities. So I never received it.

      By the way, the download ended, finally, but then the “preparing to  install” part crashed because the installation software needed a file that was not there.

      I am going to check again later today, to see if my message to “Help Desk” on this problem has been answered, and maybe also to try again, this time from hoe, with the Mac not connected to NASA.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2444695

      Yesterday was backup day before next Tuesday’s on-slough. But I ran into a brick wall.

      I use External USB HDDs to back up data and Parallels VMs running on all my Macs (Catalina on 3 older ones, Big Sur on a laptop, and Monterey on iMac4K and M1MacMini). The HDDs are formatted NTFS because I use them on Windows, and I have been using Paragon NTFS for Mac for years to make them read/write on the Macs. I had no problem with Big Sur or Monterey.

      When I tried to copy the VMs from the Catalina Macs, the backup drive would not mount. After uninstalling/reinstalling NTFS for Mac several times on the first one, I tried the second Mac. Same thing. Then I took to Google.
      Seems the macOS Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2022-03, Mar 14, 2022 caused the problem. Not only for the Paragon s/w, but other similar-function software. It seems like a widespread problem for those still running Catalina. This is probably one of the reasons we never saw Security Update 2022-04 and why Security Update 2022-05 is taking so long to be replaced.

      The zero-day is likely NOT the only problem being fixed.

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    • #2447254

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/16/2022 for the May, 2022 following updates:

      MacOS Monterey 12.4 (2.29GB)
      MacOS Big Sur 11.6.6 (2.61GB)
      MacOs Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2022-004 (1.59GB)
      iOS 15.5
      iPadOS 15.5
      watchOS 8.6
      tvOS 15.5
      HomePod 15.5
      AirPod firmware 4E71 for AirPod 2, AirPod Pro, AirPod Max, and AirPod 3

      Also Safari 15.5 (94.4MB)

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    • #2447257

      I have updated the Big Sur laptop to v11.6.6. Everything seems to work.

      There was a Safari update to v15.5 also. The update removed the Safari icon from the Dock and I had to put it back.

      Update:
      Add to the list of successful updates:
      1x M1 MacMini to MacOS Monterey 12.4
      2X MacOS Catalina to v10.15.7 Security Update 2022-004 (Ivy Bridge i7 MacBook Pro and iMac). Seems that this update fixed the problem I had mounting an NTFS volume read/write with Paragon NTFS for Mac.
      1x iPhone SE2 to iOS 15.5
      1x Intel Kaby Lake i7 to MacOS Monterey 12.4

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    • #2447261

      According to MacRumors:

      Following the ‌macOS Monterey‌ 12.4 and iPadOS 15.5 updates, ‌Universal Control‌ is no longer in beta. It is now an official feature that Apple has deemed issue-free, and the beta labeling has been removed. ‌Universal Control‌ was introduced in March and it allows you to use a single mouse/trackpad and keyboard across multiple Macs and iPads.

      For the Studio Display, ‌macOS Monterey‌ 12.4 adds support for the 15.5 firmware, which is designed to improve the webcam quality.”

      If that is all this update is for, then it’s only purpose is to improve two things I don’t need.

      Apple, however, lists a series of security fixes, actually a lot of them, but is not clear if they apply to my Intel Mac or not, or if some do, how serious these are.

      Unless there is a more pressing, but unmentioned, reason to make this update, I am quite happy to wait and see how things develop when others install it.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2447262

        Did you read the Security contents of the update linked above?

        • #2447263

          Yes, and updated my previous comment accordingly. My conclusion: Still waiting to see how it goes.

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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          • #2447311

            OscarCP…I agree with your assessment and plan to wait a while.  But not too long.  I’ll probably update my 2019 iMac this weekend barring any reasons not to do so.  Hopefully there will be comments from this Forum to make a decision on.  I did update my aging 6S to iOS 15.5 with no problems…yet.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2448518

      Still on Monterey 12.3.1 waiting to see if there are problems found by people who already installed the latest update 12.4. This one has a lot of fixes and I see no reason why a storm of fixes made simultaneously might not bring new and improved bugs along with them.

      But just to keep me interested in the meantime, Apple sent me several notifications that showed up when I logged in to my Mac today. All in the same format of a small dialog box with an explanation of a similar bu different problem from those noted in the others.

      They all said, in general, the same thing: “an application installed in your computer has some part that is another application called such and such that we don’t want anyone to use, so it won’t work, and the main (and unnamed) application is not going to work anymore either when you install this new version.” (Well, words to that effect.) But because those main applications I may know about and are listed somewhere in Finder/Applications, were not mentioned by name, I have no idea which ones these are.

      Moreover, “next version” is ambiguous: would it be the successor to Monterey out later this year, by whichever California-themed name it might be called, or would it be the update 12.4 to Monterey I still have waiting to be installed?

      The plot thickens.

      So, as I wrote above, Apple has found a way to keep me interested while I wait to install 12.4 .

       

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2448555

      Moreover, “next version” is ambiguous: would it be the successor to Monterey out later this year,

      MacOS 13 “Mammoth” will be announced in 2 weeks on June 6.

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      • #2448836

        This is a good preview of “Mammoth” to be available Oct or Nov timeframe and will mainly concentrate on M1 macs.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2448847

          Some of won’t be greatly reassured by the 9TO5Mac article posted by pmcjr6142:

          Most likely, Macs from 2013, 2014, and 2015 could be ripped off. As of now, here are the Macs that currently support macOS 12 Monterey:

          • 2015 and later MacBook
          • Early 2015 and later MacBook Air
          • Early 2015 and later MacBook Pro
          • Late 2014 and later Mac mini
          • Late 2015 and later iMac
          • 2017 and later iMac Pro
          • Late 2013 and later Mac Pro
          • 2022 Mac Studio

          Well … we’ll just have to wait and see how that goes …

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2448902

      Having heard nothing good or bad about the new Monterey update, about an hour ago I went ahead and updated macOS Monterey to 14.2.

      It took 20 minutes, because there was no “Downloading”, nor “Preparing to Install” preliminary steps. So all that, as it happened, had been done already, silently, in background. Early today, when I logged in to the Mac, I got a notice that I had an “update waiting to be installed.”

      So this big patch to Monterey had already been downloaded and prepared to install, and all that was left was for me to give the “Install” command. I did this tonight. It seemed to go on without problems, with the usual series of screen going black, after a while the white apple showing up in the middle of the black with a white loading bar underneath, this show then being repeated several times until the white apple and loading bar turned from white to an yellowish off-white and a final count down started. Then I got the login screen, took care of that — and here I am.

      I have tested the update by running, as usual, all my critical and also less critical but often used applications, and they seemed to run just fine.

      If something unfortunate happened later, or at least worth mentioning for being strangely out of the ordinary and the newly updated OS seems to be the reason, I’ll be back to report.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2448903

        Do you mean Monterey 12.4?

      • #2448905

        OscarCP….I assume you have “Download new updates when available” in System Preferences>Software Update checked?  Otherwise, how was it already downloaded?  Thanks.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2449019

          pmcjr6142: “OscarCP….I assume you have “Download new updates when available” in System Preferences>Software Update checked?

          What do you know? I installed Monterey less than a month ago and this is my first update install after that. I did not check the settings, as from what I could see in everything I’ve been doing (except for updating macOS) without digging first into “Preferences”, these were still the same I had with Big Sur.

          Well .. Not so: I just looked and that option to download (and prepare to install) automatically in “Software Update” is indeed pre-checked by default.

          Now, on the one hand I am thinking that this is not that bad and I’d rather let Apple continue to take care of this and to save me the extra wait of around half an hour, first for the update to download and then to prepare to install, with me deciding when to install.

          On the other hand, if Apple decides to pull the update and reissue it with some bugs fixed later on, as it happened at least once before in the last five years I’ve had a Mac, that I remember, wouldn’t I get stuck with the already downloaded update getting in the way of the forthcoming new and improved one?

          If someone knows the answer to this, please advise. Thanks.

           

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

          • #2449030

            I don’t know how it got checked by default.  Somehow,  I found out about this download option with I first got my Mac and unchecked it.  I’ve gone thru Catalina,  Big Sur, and Monterey and it never got checked by itself.  As to your “on the other hand” comment….I wouldn’t check it myself because I don’t know how this would affect the next update to come down the pike.  For example, you have it checked and 12.4 got downloaded as it did for you.  You decide not to install it and in a couple of weeks Apple releases 12.4.1.  Does it download and replace12.4 which is lying in wait?  I don’t know.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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            • #2449031

              pmcjr6142:  “You decide not to install it and in a couple of weeks Apple releases 12.4.1.  Does it download and replace12.4 which is lying in wait?  I don’t know.

              Exactly: To leave checked or to uncheck, that is the question.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

            • #2449033

              Regardless of how you have your preferences set, if there’s a Mac OS update downloaded on your machine and not yet installed, I would think the next update you choose will replace the previous download sitting on the sidelines. It’s your choice. Just my thoughts.

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

            • #2449040

              Myst:  That sounds reasonable. Unfortunately, decades of experience as an engineer have taught me that “reasonable” and “what really happens” often part company. It’s a wicked old world, even when it’s not trying to be bad.

              Also: the update is already installed, not waiting to be.

              If I don’t get a concrete idea of what to do from someone here, I’ll just go with “Apple shall take good care of this.” Not that I really believe that much in Apple, or worship it enough to sacrifice my Mac at its altar. But beggars can’t be choosers.

              Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

              MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
              Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
              macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2448970

        Went ahead and installed 12.4.  No problems that I am aware of.  Took 90 minutes on a 2019 iMac.  I don’t have automatic downloads activated, so it went thru download, preparing update, and install.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2448982

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/25/2022 for the following update:

      tvOS 15.5.1  This update has no published CVE entries.
      HomePod 15.5.1

    • #2449054

      tvOS 15.5.1  This update has no published CVE entries.

      ..and HomePod 15.5.1.

      “15.5.1 HomePod update addresses an issue that could cause music to stop playing after a short time.”

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    • #2449753

      Seeing that it’s been almost 2 weeks since Apple released it’s latest security updates, I went ahead and installed 2022-004 for Catalina. Only took 20 minutes for download and install. So far so good and will report back if anything pops up.

      I was also offered Safari 15.5 but will wait a day or so before installing.

       

       

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    • #2449784

      Just installed Safari 15.5 and Catalina 2022-004 updates on a 2017 MacBook Air. About 4 minutes for the former and 15 for the latter. No issues so far.

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    • #2451887

      I have promised to be back to let people here know if I found problems doing something that was OK to do before moving on to Monterey. Well, I have, so here I am and this is it:

      “Spotlight”, the macOS tool for finding things stored in the Mac, has gone wacky. It was OK before installing Monterey, so I presume this new development is a side effect of this recent update of macOS. (I have updated a couple of applications: the browsers and one other, but I did that after this problem started to happen.)

      How wacky?

      It has been trying to index my whole set of files, including those of the applications installed by me, I imagine, on the SSD again, and again, and again, and …
      Every time, it takes for ever, grabs most of the available CPU time and causes the CPU to heat up and the fans to spin noisily enough to be heard, something very unusual for my Mac to do.

      Alex told me to let it happen, because an OS would re-index one’s files every time it is upgraded, so I let it, once. But when it started to do it again and again … that looked just wrong.
      So I did a bit of online research and found a line-command instruction to stop “Spotlight” dead, or to re-start it:

      To stop “Spotlight”:

      sudo mdutil -a -i off  (then: Return + Mac login password)
      To restart it:
      sudo mdutil -a -i on (then: Return + Mac login password)

      What happens when I turn it off is that it forgets the whole indexing it had accumulated and starts indexing the SSD again: One just cannot win.

      So I turned it off and investigated doing similar searches using Finder:

      Finder/File/Find/ name of file

      Then clicking on the file icon that appears, or on one of several versions that are found, then pressing and holding the Command key to see where, in which directory (folder) in the SSD this file happens to be.
      It is also possible to open the file to have a look inside it, by double clicking the file’s icon in the Finder window, and also to copy it there and paste the copy on the Desktop or wherever one prefers, in the usual way, for later inspection.

      In other words: one can do with Finder the same things as with “Spotlight”, only it is somewhat more cumbersome and slower this way. But I think I can live with that.

      So now this is my question:

      Why use “Spotlight”, now gone hyperactive, at all? I’ll appreciate any helpful, practical answers. I do thank in advance anyone who gives me one.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

      • #2451909

        Would limiting what Spotlight can search in the Settings App help? It certainly shouldn’t need to search everything.
        I rarely use Spotlight, and I have not seen this problem on any of my Macs, the two Monterey machines or the others running Big Sur or Catalina.

        • #2451934

          PK: Thanks. That is a possibility. I would need to figure out first which directories I may not want to search with Spotlight. I could search things there that the resulting limited Spotlight search fails to find using Finder, as previously explained. Although I must add that Spotlight has never been that wonderful at helping me find stuff, even when I know exactly what a file or directory I am trying to find is called.

          So: keep it tied down with restrictions and use it, or forget about it and lose it … where did I put the daisy, Spotlight?

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2464676

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/20/2022 for the July, 2022 following updates:

      MacOS Monterey 12.5 + Safari 15.6 (3.09GB)
      MacOS Big Sur 11.6.8 + Safari 15.6 (2.6GB)
      MacOs Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2022-005 + Safari 15.6 (1.71GB)
      iOS 15.6
      iPadOS 15.6
      watchOS 8.7
      tvOS 15.6
      HomePod 15.6
      AirPod 3D printed USB-C case

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    • #2464712

      Monterey 12.5 is already available to download in my Mac. I’ll wait a week or so, as usual, to see what happens to the early adopters, then I’ll be ready to decide what to do.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2464781

        Oscar…I’ve become an early adopter in my old age.  Installed both OS 12.5 and iOS 15.6 yesterday.  I wanted the many OS security updates.  So far so good.  I’ve never had a problem with OS or iOS updates going back years.  But then I don’t junk up my Mac and iPhone with cute and unnecessary apps that could cause a conflict.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2464824

      Updated without incident:

      x2 MacOS Monterey 12.5 (one M1, one Intel Kaby Lake i7)
      x1 MacOS Big Sur 11.6.8
      x3 Catalina 10.15.7 Security Update 2022-005
      x1 iPhone SE2 iOS 15.6

      All updates included Safari 15.6. All Macs are running at least one Parallels VM(s).
      Will increment numbers as I update the rest.

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    • #2466062

      After waiting for a week, looking around for reports of widespread problems people may have had after doing this, I finally updated Monterey tonight to its latest version, 10.5 , apparently without incident. I have tested my most often used applications and these seem to be functioning as usual.

      Preparing to install the update, after downloading it, took close to 30 minutes and the update itself about 20 in my Mac (described in my signature panel below this comment). Based on several years of experience updating macOS, this is normal for my Mac.

      If later on I have problems that could be related to this installation of the new version of Monterey, I’ll be back to report.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2467730

      It’s been about 2 weeks since Apple released security update 2022-005 for Catalina.  I updated my 2017 MBA without any issues. It took about 20 minutes total time, including download and install. I will keep an eye on things and if something comes up I will report back here.

      As for Safari 15.6, I’ll give it a few more days before installing.

      I am wondering if this will be the last security update for Catalina.  Time to decide if I will install Big Sur or Monterey.

       

       

       

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      • #2468637

        Just following up to say I’ve installed Safari 15.6 without issues. I’ll report back if anything turns up.

        Still don’t know if 2022-005 and Safari 15.6 will be the last for Catalina.

         

         

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        • #2471611

          With all the “chatter” about Apple security issues, today I went ahead and installed Safari 15.6.1 on my MBA running Catalina. Download and install in under 5 minutes.

          I also updated an iPhone 11 (new for me) to iOS 15.6.1 yesterday. Took around 10 to 15 minutes to download and install.

          I’ll report back if anything goes astray.

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    • #2470916

      AKB2000014 has been updated 6/17/2022 for the August, 2022 following updates:

      macOS Monterey 12.5.1  (2.06GB includes Safari 15.6.1)
      iOS 15.6.1
      iPadOS 15.6.1
      watchOS8.7.1 This update has no published CVE entries.

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      • #2471335

        I updated my iPad Air 2 to 15.6.1 The Mail app would not download email messages from the server. (The email entry was there in the e-mail list, but the message box said “This message has not been downloaded from the server.”) So, I followed Apple fixes for the problem. The simpler suggestions did not work (Close and re-launch Mail app, toggle Airplane Mode, restart iPad), but the directions for Update your Mail app’s Push or Fetch settings were successful in getting email messages to download. However, after restarting the iPad (the last step in the directions), some of the Settings>Mail>Account settings were different than the changes made when following the directions. ‘Fetch New Data’ was OFF, so I changed it back to PUSH, and under the FETCH heading, I did not leave it at ‘Manually’. I changed to ‘Automatically,’ which was what it was set at before the trouble began.

        So, now all of the MAIL>account>Fetch New Data settings are the same as they had been before the 15.6.1 update.

    • #2470978

      Guinea pig, here.
      Updated M1 MacMini to macOS Monterey 12.5.1 (posting from it now)
      Updated Intel i7 Kaby Lake iMac4K to macOS Monterey 12.5.1 (main driver Win8.1 VM up and running)
      Updated iPhone SE2 to iOS 15.6.1

      No problems so far (touch wood).

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      • #2471321

        Likewise..I installed iOS 15.6.1 on my aging 6S yesterday.  No problems.  Today, I went ahead and installed OS 12.5.1 on my 2019 iMac.   The complete download, install, and restarts took 70 minutes.  I’ve learned that it helps to put the Mac in sleep mode after an update for an hour before using it.  This seems to eliminate the slow down I used to experience right after an update.  Everything seems OK.  Given the potentially serious security problem fixed in this update, I didn’t want to wait.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2472019

      Tonight I went ahead, not having heard anything particularly disturbing about the potential tragic effects of installing the new update to Monterey, and installed the 12.6.1 version, something that also included, without my doing anything about it (as is the case with Monterey, as explained here earlier by DrBonzo) the installing of Safari 15.6.1 .

      In my case, all this took some 17 minutes. It did not seem to take any time downloading the update and preparing to install it, that I noticed, so probably that was ready and waiting somewhere in the Mac. Apple, as noted earlier by several of us, has taken to download the latest updates and their installers very, very quietly. So quietly, it is rumored, that users don’t even notice.

      Before installing, I backed up all my data to the Time Machine external HDD. After updating, I checked all my main applications, to see if they were still working, and they were … But I found only one weird thing:

      I have downloaded many full Web pages of files on matters that interest me, recently in particular those with contents relevant to my present research project. Usually I navigate from the Desktop to the folder where the saved Web page happens to be, open it, double click on the page HTML file and the page opens right up. But not this time, after the update: the pages did  not open at all.

      I could use a browser to find the HTML file and open the saved Web page from the browser, but this is awkward and takes time. In fact, it is an annoying PITA.

      Then I tried using the Finder to open those HTML files, this also worked, but the same as when using the browser, I still had to use Finder to navigate to the folder with the file in question, select it with the cursor, and then open it from the Finder’s “File” drop-down menu. Also a PITA.

      Then something even weirder happened, but this was the good kind of weird: after I did as above using the Finder once, when I tried afterwards to open the saved Web pages by double clicking their HTMLs, the pages opened right away, just as it has been the case ever since I first got this Mac more than five years ago.

      So … problem solved? Hmm.

       

       

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2472262

      Another strange browser problem noticed today following the installation of the last Monterey update 12.5.1:

      Chrome latest incremental version 104.0.5112.101 (.101 Macs/.102 Windows) released a few days ago to fix several bugs, including a nasty one, stopped loading pages on Tuesday, after updating Monterey.
      After trying first to fix this by deleting the cache, history and cookies, that did not work, I then restarted the Mac, and that did work.

      I have had no similar problems with my two other browsers, Waterfox (Mozilla related) and Vivaldi,(Chromium based). So this seems to be something that affects Chrome only.

      More on this latest Chrome update — there is also something on forum “Code Red” about this:

      https://www.ghacks.net/2022/08/17/google-chrome-104-patches-critical-security-issue-and-a-issue-that-is-exploited/

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2473765

      AKB2000014 has been updated 8/31/2022 for the August, 2022 following updates:

      Updates for older iPhones, iPads and iPod: iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, and iPod touch (6th generation)

      iOS 12.5.6
      iPadOS 12.5.6

      • #2473816

        Wheeeee!
        I just updated my iPad Mini 2. And I had thought it was a goner!

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    • #2476764

      I have been running Monterey for some time, a few days ago updated it to 12.5.1 and then something odd has been happening:

      When I turn on the Mac and after the system loads (shown by a white loading line creeping from left to right below a white Apple sign) the pre-login screen comes up, same as always, with my account and a guest account logos.

      Now this happens: I click on my account’s to select it, and nothing happens. I click again, and a spinning wheel of death shows up, but only for a few seconds, followed by my desktop screen with the field for entering my password, again as usual. The login takes place after I do that and hit return, again as usual. And then I’m all set and ready to compute.

      Has this been happening to anyone else here?

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2476852

        OscarCP, I just upgraded to Monterey a week ago and I am not seeing the “wheel of death” when logging in.

        The one thing I do notice is that the time for powering up my MBA to the login screen takes atleast twice as much time as it did in Catalina. Maybe there are more background processes loading up I don’t know. I guess I just have to be a little more patient.

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      • #2476857

        My MBA was noticeably slower booting up the first few times. Then it got faster but still slower than with Catalina. Once it gets post-boot, though, it seems just as fast as with Catalina. And amazingly, not a single instance of spinning gear from the updater. All in all, Monterey seems fine on my MBA.

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    • #2477362

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/12/2022 for the September, 2022 following updates:

      MacOS Monterey 12.6 + Safari 16 (1.8GB)
      MacOS Big Sur 11.7 + Safari 16 (2.7GB)
      iOS 16 (iPhone 8 and later)
      iOS 15.7 (iPhone 7 and earlier)
      iPadOS 16
      iPadOS 15.7
      watchOS 9 (series-4 and later)
      tvOS 16
      HomePod 16

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    • #2477538

      Successful updates so far:

      9/13/2022
      iOS 15.7 – iPhoneSE2 (holding off on iOS 16 for a while)
      MacOS Monterey 12.6 + Safari 16 – iMac4K Intel i7 Kaby Lake (both Win VM running)
      MacOS Monterey 12.6 + Safari 16 – M1 MacMini (posting from it now)
      MacOS Big Sur 11.7 + Safari 16 – 15″ MacBook Pro Intel i7 Haswell

      MacOS Catalina (no updates) – 13″ MacBook Pro, iMac, MacMini all Intel i7 Ivy Bridge

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      • #2477797

        This may sound like a silly question but is it possible to install the Monterey update and Safari update separately?  In Catalina you were able update Safari by itself.

         

        • #2477845

          bassmanzam: It looks like there may be a way. But are you brave enough to try it?

          Screen-Shot-2022-09-14-at-1.24.08-AM

          Start with the install gear. Click on it, it will open a box where it lists the (three in my case) items available and below is the “More info” button. Click on it and the smaller box in the screenshot will open.

          OK. In the screenshot you can see, in the smaller box, the names of the same items again, each with a  check box, all boxes checked by default. You can uncheck any of these boxes, or two, or all three in my case.

          Presumably, if you uncheck Safari, when you install this time safari won’t update. Let’s say this is so. Hurray!!

          So now you have everything installed, except for Safari.

          Questions: Will Apple send you the update for Safari? Is safari already waiting to be installed somewhere in your Mac? Will you ever be able to update Safari again?

          Sadly, I have no answer to any of these questions. You can: (a) experiment (the Mad Scientist way), or (b) just install the whole lot (safer, but not what you would like to do.)

          Unless there is someone around here that knows more, so can tell you more and then you shall know more.

          Good luck. And please, let us all know what you discover.

           

          Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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          • #2478135

            Thanks OscarCP. Not sure if I am brave enough to try it. I am still waiting atleast 1 week before applying the updates. Maybe someone else will be brave enough to test this out.

        • #2478168

          @bassmanzam – I just checked my MBA which is running Monterey 12.5.1. Software Update shows what @OscarCP’s screen shot shows (except no Xcode stuff – just Monterey 12.6 and Safari 16).

          But when I was running Catalina Software Update would show essentially the same thing: the Catalina Update and the Safari update. By checking the box to the left of each I could choose to install neither, both, or either one. What I usually did was install the Safari update all by itself and then move on to install the Catalina update. I think you have said this.

          So I think that since I’m offered Safari and a Monterey update separately, that I can install each one separately. I think in the near past Monterey updates and Safari updates were bundled together so that you had to install both together. That doesn’t appear to be the case this time.

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          • #2482135

            Since it’s been almost 2 weeks since Monterey 12.6 was released, I finally had a chance to install the update.  It took me for a ride!

            For some reason, before doing the update, I decided to check the Installations under Apple icon > About this Mac > System report > Installations, and noticed that Monterey 12.6 was supposedly installed on September 18. I know I never installed it and not sure why it was in there. I checked the install date for Monterey 12.5.1 and it had a date of August something. I know I installed it on September 5! So something is going wrong here.

            Checking Apple icon > About this Mac stated I was running Monterey 12.5.1 so I decided to do the update to Monterey 12.6. As mentioned by OscarCP and DrBonzo, I was able to do update just Monterey. It took about 2 minutes to download. It then did a “Preparing update” with an estimated time of 30 minutes. It took about 25 minutes before it rebooted. It then went to the black screen with the Apple logo and rebooted about 3 or 4 times before it came up with an estimated time of 10 minutes. It took the entire 10 minutes before it finally gave me the login screen.

            So it seems that there is something going on with the “Installations”. I don’t know what Apple is doing. Maybe they don’t know what they are doing! It might be time to look into Linux!

             

             

            • #2482159

              @bassmanzam – What exactly did you see in Installations? If you saw “Install macOS Monterey” and then to the right of that you saw 12.6 in the Version column, that doesn’t mean 12.6 was installed. It only means that the installer for 12.6 was installed, and also showing in Launchpad as “Install macOS Monterey”, and if you click in Launchpad on the icon entitled “Install macOS Monterey” that 12.6 will be installed.. I know that probably doesn’t make any sense because you would think that something showing up in Installations would actually be installed. Everything else you’ve described, though, is consistent with having 12.5.1 installed and running and that you then installed 12.6: your mac stated that you were running 12.5.1 – and you were; the installation date of August something was when the installer for 12.6 was installed on your mac, but the date you installed 12.6 – and not just the 12.6 installer – actually was September 5. And your description of what happened when you did install 12.6 is consistent with actually installing 12.6 – and not the 12.6 installer; you were seeing multiple restarts, etc.

              In other words, there’s a difference between the Monterey version 12.6 operating system and the Monterey 12.6 operating system installer. Or using fewer words, there’s a difference between 12.6 and the 12.6 installer.

              I things on your mac are OK and that you are now running 12.6.

            • #2483976

              DrBonzo, I just checked System Report > Installations and it says “macOS Monterey”. It doesn’t say anything about “Installer”. But one thing I forgot to mention is that there are about 4 or 5 other entries for older versions of Monterey! I don’t know what is going on. I am pretty sure I am now running Monterey 12.6.

              I want to also report that I just installed Safari 16 and all seems okay. And by the way, in “Installations ” it is recorded as being installed today.

               

               

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            • #2484001

              I have 4 or 5 other versions of Monterey as well in Installations. Each has a version number and a date. The date matches up closely with the date the version was released according to this web page:

              https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

              The dates aren’t always the same but are within just a few days of each other, the date I see on the MBA always being later than the release date.

              I had a similar situation with my iMAC and I know for sure that none of the listed versions of Monterey in Installations was installed because whenever I tried to install any update all I got for weeks was the infamous spinning gear.

              Apple doesn’t ram OS versions down your throat, or behind your back, or whatever. The only way you get an update is if you install it yourself or if you’ve checked a box that says Keep my Mac updated (or something to that effect) in Software Update.

              You should be able to verify that you’re running Monterey 12.6 by going to Apple logo/About this mac. The window that pops up should say the name and version of the OS you’re running. Or, go to Preferences/Software Update. Mine says that I’m up to date and running Monterey 12.6

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            • #2484299

              Yes I am seeing  Monterey 12.6 in Apple logo > About this mac.

              As well under Preferences > Software Update reports I’m up to date.

              I guess I’ll just ignore the “Installations” and rely on Apple logo > About this mac. I just have 2 more years of Monterey updates before my MBA goes vintage.

              I would like to see if I can get Linux installed on my Windows 7 Dell laptop that is currently offline. But that’s for another thread.

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            • #2484324

              A few of us here have Linux installed on PCs that have run or are running a version of Windows. You can learn how to do it with Mint here:

              https://linuxmint.com/ They have installation manuals, user guides, etc. In my opinion, Mint is quite similar to Win 7; others might have different opinions. There are Topics in the Linux sections of the Forums here, that might be useful. And there’s probably no shortage of fplks that are willing and able to answer many of your questions.

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            • #2483003

              I updated my 2017 MBA from Monterey 12.5.1 to 12.6. It’s the first time I’ve updated a computer running Monterey (went from Catalina to Monterey 12.5.1).

              Things went just like @bassmanzam described above, with one exception. During the “Preparing” phase, it hung at the 15 minute remaining mark for over an hour. I clicked the x within a circle to the right of the progress bar and the process stopped immediately giving me a usable computer. That return to normalcy was good to know. Tried the update again and the same thing happened; it hung at 15 minutes remaining. I let it go for about 1.5 hours this time. Then I stopped real-time protection on the Avira Free antivirus software I’m running and then the installation “unstalled” and finished up.

              I’ve never had to disable real time protection in Avira (I’ve been using it for 5 years) in order to get an update to install.

              Might help others who experience a hang.

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          • #2482297

            The install I did on the 2014 MacMini from 12.5.1 to 12.6 (reported in another thread) experienced the same multiple reboots and long install time that you experienced. That MacMini had a 1TB HDD instead of an SSD, and I suspect that was the deciding factor in the time.

            • #2482661

              Yes I do have an SSD on my 2017 MBA.

              I am still seeing long boot ups. When I press the power button I get the apple logo with the progress bar that goes about 1/3 of the way and pauses for atleast 10 to 15 seconds and then finally finishes to the login screen. Not sure what’s going on.

               

            • #2482690

              That’s pretty much what I’m seeing on my 2017 MBA with an SSD running Monterey 12.5. Boot times are definitely longer than they were with Catalina, but still probably around a minute or so. Once it boots up, though, it seems just as fast as Catalina.

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    • #2478120

      I just installed the upgrade to Monterey 12.6. It took altogether some 30 minutes, because the files to be download and their preparation to being installed took considerable time, so it looks like there was nothing already quietly pre-installed by Apple for this update in the Mac, as there has been in at least one other occasion.

      After installing, I test-ran the various applications and functions I use often, some of them important to me. All is well, except, unfortunately, for one compiler from the GNU that I use to check what I get using the corresponding Intel compiler. The Intel, as usual, run and got the same things done. The GNU, not quite: It crashed with an execution time run error that did never happen before when running this test job, always with the same code and same inputs.  I’ll check further on this.

      I think the problem is with the new version of Xtools included in the download, because this happened before and that was the reason then. So, in that occasion, I reinstalled Xtools and the problem went away.

      Unfortunately, now one cannot install only the essential tools in Xtool, because per Apple dictum, one first must download and install the whole enchilada. And I am busy with a long report that I have a tight deadline to complete, so I have no time to fulfill the requirements towards getting a PhD on Xtools any time soon.

      I’ll see what I can do. Maybe reinstalling the GNU compiler might help. Maybe not.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      • #2478160

        Correction: I conflated two things, incorrectly naming what I have a problem with. What I need is the latest ‘xcode command line tools.’

        I just checked, and I have the latest version installed of xcode and of the command line tools. Both came out three days ago, and having installed them today along with 12.6, they are still warm from their Devs oven.

        So either there is something in them that doesn’t love my compiler, or the problem is coming from somewhere else. I could remove xcode and install it again, tools and all, but I’ll get the same thing back, and removing and reinstalling sometimes makes things worse. It doesn’t look like the old version I had until today and was no trouble is available for installation. So either I find a reason (and the solution) for this elsewhere, or my GNU goose is cooked.

        Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

    • #2478201

      Well what do you know? I re-installed with homebrew the GNU library of compilers gcc, so now I have the latest version. (That installation took for ever and gave me a rare opportunity of hearing the little Mac fans buzzing away like a bunch of really mad yellowjackets.)

      Then I compiled with the GNU compiler the same test program: again it crashed exactly as before!

      So I looked into the code that had always compiled just fine and run happily with both the GNU compiler and the Intel compiler.

      And I found a bug in the code that “inevitably” had to cause that crash!  I fixed it, and the gcc-compiled executable code run perfectly! As did the one compiled again with the Intel compiler, that has been always perfectly happy with the buggy code. As it is now with the patched one.

      But why in more than two years neither executable ever crashed or produced bad results, while the bug was there all along in the source?

      In the end, all I did was confirm the truth of something that I have painfully stumbled on time and again: compilers are profoundly weird things.

      But, at least it wasn’t the update to 12.6 that caused the problem (that had never been a problem before), but what revealed it. Should I be thankful to 12.6 for it? Not really sure about that.

      And the spinning wheel of death has not showed up again during logins after the patching, and that is the better news.

      Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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    • #2481398

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/23/2022 for the September 22, 2022 following updates:

      iOS 16.0.2 This update has no published CVE entries (Fixes camera shake bug for iPhone 14).
      watchOS 9.0.1 for Apple Watch Ultra.  This update has no published CVE entries.

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    • #2484375

      I would like to see if I can get Linux installed on my Windows 7 Dell laptop that is currently offline. But that’s for another thread.

      If you want both Linux and Win 7 it is better to install Linux first and add Win 7 in VM.

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    • #2487318

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/11/2022 for the October 10, 2022 following updates:

      iOS 16.0.3 for iPhone 8 & newer.
      watchOS 9.0.3 for Series 4 & later.  This update has no published CVE entries.

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    • #2487490

      There might be something here somewhere on iOS 16, and to avoid sifting through I would appreciate anyone with some feedback on the new 16 update to post it here. Thanks. I’m still on iOS 15.7 for iPhone and iPad.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2487526

      There might be something here somewhere on iOS 16, and to avoid sifting through I would appreciate anyone with some feedback on the new 16 update to post it here. Thanks. I’m still on iOS 15.7 for iPhone and iPad.

      I am running the latest iOS 16.1 beta 5 on my iPhone 14 Pro Max.
      The version is rock solid.
      I haven’t accounted any problems with iOS 16 so far.

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      • #2488491

        I just checked the Master Patch List and it seems Susan has given the go ahead for iOS 16.0.3. Has anybody installed this yet? Will there be any more updates to the iOS 15.7 branch? I know iOS 16.0.x is a major update and don’t want to rush into it.  Thanks!

        • #2488640

          I’m with you on this.  I’m still on 15.7 and all works well.  Hopefully if there is a pressing security need Apple will update it.  The 16.x updates were to fix problems in 16.0.  So it wasn’t perfect. Aside from that, I don’t need nor care about Lock Screen widgets or the other feature updates.  I’m waiting for good reviews on 16.1 and will decide then.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2488740

      Will there be any more updates to the iOS 15.7 branch?

      I don’t think so.
      Once 16.1 is out this month 15.7 won’t be supported anymore.

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      • #2488741

        15.7 won’t be supported anymore.

        It will, although only for critical exploits et al. iOS 12 got an update last month when EoS was September 2021

        If debian is good enough for NASA...
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        • #2488789

          Yeah, I thought my iPad Mini 2 was a goner, but it got that update for iOS 12.

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          • #2489126

            Updated Mrs Microfix’s iPhone 6 to 12.5.6 last month, she’s well happy with apple as they look after their devices for longer than expected. (security wise anyway)  Her phone was new in early 2015 and still works great (I’ll take her word for that)

            If I were ever to get a smartphone, I’d probably go the fruity route

            If debian is good enough for NASA...
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        • #2488958

          Apple will stop signing 15.7 ~week after releasing 16.1.
          Sever security bugs maybe fixed, but none security bugs.. won’t.

      • #2493881

        So yesterday I upgraded my iPhone 11 to 15.7.1. No issues to report. I know sooner or later will have to upgrade to 16.x. For now I am happy with 15.7.1

        Anybody upgrade to Monterey 12.6.1 + Safari 16.1 yet?

    • #2491688

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/24/2022 for the October 24, 2022 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.0 (3.92GB on Intel, 5.52GB on ARM)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.1 + Safari 16.1 (1.65GB)
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.1 + Safari 16.1 (2.7GB)
      iOS 16.1
      iPadOS 16.1
      tvOS 16.1
      watchOS 9.1
      HomePod 16.1

      Security content of Safari 16.1

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    • #2492322

      Now on iOS 16.1 for iPhone 8plus and iPadOS 16.1. No issues but one fail for iPad, the Lock Screen is not customizable like it is for the iPhone. Wanted to ditch the bold clock font on Lock Screen with iPad and that feature isn’t available as far as I can tell. Maybe Apple will get to it later. Other than that haven’t run into any problems. The Apple Fitness app patterns itself after the vintage Nano iPod 7th or 8th gen. You can track walking distance and such, and it’s free on Nano iPod, granted it’s an outdated device by Apple standards, but works great for me on that tiny little music/radio player. Not interested in competitions or personal virtual instructors or special classes.

      For iOS 16.1, the “new” Apple Fitness for the App Library will no doubt have Apple making every attempt to lure fitness enthusiasts into a monthly set charge of 9.99 (but it is cheaper than the Peloton App) after the free trial period. No thanks, I can easily monitor my heart rate and calculate distance anywhere anytime with my existing indoor exercise equipment for a lifetime free trial. Out the door, my feet have everything to do with setting goals, when they hit the dirt I tap Start on the old Nano iPod.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2492638

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/27/2022 for the October 27, 2022 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      iOS 15.7.1
      IPadOS 15.7.1

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      • #2492671

        PK,
        I like it that we can scroll to the top post for links — always easy to find the latest info that way!

        I just got a new iPad Air (5th gen), but my old one (Air 2 – 2014) is still working like a charm (missing new features, of course, since it’s not eligible for 16.x).

        I’m paying more attention to updates now, since I have two of them to look after.

    • #2494161

      So yesterday I upgraded my iPhone 11 to 15.7.1. No issues to report. I know sooner or later will have to upgrade to 16.x. For now I am happy with 15.7.1

      Anybody upgrade to Monterey 12.6.1 + Safari 16.1 yet?

      Yes, I felt safe updating to 12.6.1 and Safari 16.1.  I did this on Oct. 24 and to my knowledge have experienced no problems.  On the other hand, I’m nervous about jumping to Ventura and going from iOS 15.7.1 to iOS 16.x.  My Mac and iPhone 13 are both working fine and why take a chance with new features I don’t think I need nor want.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2494289

      why take a chance with new features I don’t think I need nor want.

      Maybe because Apple plugged some 0-day security bugs ?

      I am on iOS 16.2, iPadOS 16.2 Apple watchOS 9.2 betas.

      0 problems.

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    • #2494353

      why take a chance with new features I don’t think I need nor want.

      Maybe because Apple plugged some 0-day security bugs ?

      I am on iOS 16.2, iPadOS 16.2 Apple watchOS 9.2 betas.

      0 problems.

      I thought the security updates were handled in 15.7.1 for those of us holding off on 16.x.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2494414

      iOS 16.1 – There are various bugs being reported on other sites and the main problem I’ve seen and experienced is WiFi cutting out and this hasn’t happened to me in the past. Not a carrier issue it’s an Apple issue. Smaller bugs like a non-responsive touch screen and apps crashing are also being reported. My guess is these will all be fixed with upcoming updates for iOS 16. Just need patience. No regrets upgrading, this happens with major updates. What’s important is making sure your device has the most current security fix. One thing to note is the various types of iPhones can have their own set of problems with one bug or another. Not all devices are created equal in this regard.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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      • #2494441

        I’m hanging with 15.7.1 for now. 🙂

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        • #2494444

          Usually wait when there are major updates but decided to jump in. I don’t worry about the small bugs, staying secure is the main focus.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

      • #2499950

        I recently updated my iPhone 13 Pro to iOS 16.1.1 and so far the only annoyance is when I first log into the phone in the morning, taking it off Airplane mode, the WiFi doesn’t connect automatically. I have to go into Settings and choose my connection. Kind of a pain, but only seems to happen first thing in the morning, so not a huge deal.

    • #2494472

      I’ve seen and experienced is WiFi cutting out and this hasn’t happened to me in the past. Not a carrier issue it’s an Apple issue. Smaller bugs like a non-responsive touch screen and apps crashing are also being reported.

      Never happened to me with any iOS, iPadOS, watchOS betas in years.

      • #2494484

        @Alex5723 – you’re one of the lucky folks who have never had any issues. I don’t know of anyone who has not had at least one bug or two along the way with their Apple products. Bugs exist. And they get fixed.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

        • #2494668

          you’re one of the lucky folks who have never had any issues.

          I never had issues with my Apple devices due to some steps I use :

          No social media : Facebook, Instagram, TikTok…
          No ads, no tracking.. blocked by Firewall
          No games, no shady apps..
          No subscriptions (except iCloud storage)
          No streaming services..(I don’t need as I have Plex server running at home accessible remotely from my iPhone/iPad)..

          This let me run beta (previously running dev) OS on my devices.

          ps. On my Windows 10 PC 95% of software is portable running from drive d:

    • #2494812

      @Alex5723 … Social media has its own set of problems, but it has nothing to do with iOS update bugs, unless as with apps, the developer has not updated for compatibility with various operating systems that people have on their devices. Still, major and minor flaws occur with iOS updates and other operating system updates on devices that may or may not have certain apps or social media, and eventually they get fixed.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2495585

      Since it’s been almost 2 weeks since Monterey 12.6.1 was released I decided to upgrade my MBA.

      It took about 2 minutes to download, 20 minutes to prepare and another 20 minutes to install. After about 5 reboots into a black screen with apple logo it finally gave me the login screen.

      So far things look good and will report back if something comes up. Still need to install Safari but will wait a few more days.

       

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      • #2495676

        I did my MBA last night. Did Safari first which went in quickly.

        Did the 12.6.1 next and my experience mirrored @bassmanzam’s. I was dismayed it took so long as the Catalina updates usually took about 20 minutes total. (I went from Catalina to Monterey 12.5.). Extrapolating previous behavior, that means I’m looking at a good 2 hours to update my iMAC (which is absurd IMHO for a point update).

        After the update I had 5 apps that needed updating: Pages, Numbers, Keynote, iMovie, and Garage Band. These usually go pretty quickly, but not this time. It took a good 2 hours to install all 5. And the very great majority of that time was installation, not download. Perhaps it’s because it was the first time they were updated since moving from Catalina to Monterey. The MBA has another account on it and this morning I was told the same apps as above with the exception of Garage Band needed updates. Each of these took about 5 minutes or less, which is typical.

        So, the MBA seems OK, but if my extrapolation holds, it’s going to take the iMAC a good 8 hours to get updated completely – apps and Monterey 12.6.1. My iMac supposedly qualifies for Ventura, but all I can think is “What is Apple thinking?” That iMAC will win the sloth prize on Ventura.

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    • #2495773

      I have updated my iMac4K (Intel 7th gen i7 32GB RAM) and my M1MacMini to Monterey 12.6.1. Not doing Ventura any time soon although both are eligible.
      I updated My 15″ MacBook Pro (Intel Haswell i7 SSD 16 GB RAM) to Big Sur 11.7.1. Big Sur is end of the line for this one.
      All with the Safari 16.1 update.
      So far, knock on wood, no problems. My Monterey machines are my daily drivers, running Parallels Win 8.1/10/11 on ARM VMs.

      Also “observed” the upgrade of a friend’s MacMini (2015 Intel with 5400 HDD and 8GB RAM), who I am teaching to do her own updating. It was slow as molasses, took 2-2 1/2 hours, and will be the last eligible OS for that machine. But it is all she needs at the moment.

       

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    • #2496737

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/9/2022 for the November 9, 2022 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.0.1
      iOS 16.1.1
      iPadOS 16.1.1
      AirPod Pro 2 firmware version 5B58

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      • #2497319

        AKB2000014 has been updated 11/10/2022 for the November 10, 2022 following updates:

        AirPod firmware for Airpod 2, Airpod 3, Airpod 1, and Airpod Max version 5B58

    • #2496744

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/9/2022 for the November 9, 2022 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.0.1
      iOS 16.1.1
      iPadOS 16.1.1
      AirPod Pro 2 firmware version 5B58

      PK Cano, I agree with your Nov 6 post and am also on 15.7.1 and Monterey 12.6.1.  Who provides the input to the Master Patch List for it to give an OK to iOS 16 and Ventura?  When my iPhone 13 and my 2019 iMac are working fine, I’m thinking it’s OK to only install security updates.  So many people seem to be on old Mac OS’s.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2496752

        The Master Patch List is Susan’s baby. She makes the recommendations for install/defer based on her information from a myriad of sources.

        Although they are not my daily drivers, I still have 3 Macs from 2012 (Ivy Bridge) running the long end of Catalina. The iMac and MacMini have HDDs (spinners) and, even with 16GB RAM, are slow. But I put an 512GB Samsung SSD and 16GB Ram in the 13″ MacBook Pro years ago, and it’s still as fast as my newer machines.

        My everyday machines are a 2013 15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7) on Big Sur, a 2017 iMac4K (3.6GB i7-7700, 32GB RAM), and a 2021 M1 MacMini. Both the latter are on Monterey still.

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    • #2507935

      AKB2000014 has been updated 12/13/2022 for the December 13, 2022 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.1 (3.97GB on Intel, 5.6GB on ARM)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.2 + Safari 16.2 (1.675GB)
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.2 + Safari 16.2 (2.7GB)
      iOS 16.2
      1OS 15.7.2
      iPadOS 16.2
      iPadOS 15.7.2
      tvOS 16.2
      watchOS 9.2
      HomePod 16.2

      Security content of Safari 16.2

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      • #2508590

        No issues installing Monterey 12.6.2 or Safari 16.2…took almost 90 minutes though.  Everything seems to be working fine.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2508704

      Updated today with no problems:

      MacOS Big Sur 11.7.2 + Safari 12.6
      15″ MacBook Pro, gen 4 Haswell i7 4960HQ, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD running Parallels VMs (Win8.1 Pro and Win10 Pro 22H2 both updated through 12/22)

      MacOS Monterey 12.6.2 + Safari 12.6
      iMac14K, Intel gen 7 Kaby Lake i7 7700, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD running Parallels VMs (Win8.1 Pro and Win10 Pro 22H2 both updated through 12/22)

      M1MacMini, 2020 M1 ARM, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVME running Parallels VMs (Win11 on ARM Pro Insider Beta 22623 updated through 12/22)

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    • #2512559

      Just checking in. Installed Monterey 12.6.2 on my MBA 2017. It took about 40 minutes from download to login page. No issues to report. Will keep an eye on things and report back if anything should come up. Safari 12.6 will be installed in a little while.

    • #2528121

      Fruity drop 23rd Jan 2023 for fondleslabs and others..
      https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      Even older tech included…wow!

      iOS 12.5.7
      iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, and iPod touch (6th generation)

      macOS Monterey 12.6.3
      macOS Monterey

      macOS Big Sur 11.7.3
      macOS Big Sur

      iOS 15.7.3 and iPadOS 15.7.3
      iPhone 6s (all models), iPhone 7 (all models), iPhone SE (1st generation), iPad Air 2, iPad mini (4th generation), and iPod touch (7th generation)

      iOS 16.3 and iPadOS 16.3
      iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th generation and later

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2528227

      AKB2000014 has been updated 1/25/2023 for the January 23-24, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.2 (4.05GB on Intel, 5.79GB on ARM)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.3 (1.39GB) + Safari 16.3 (134MB)
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.3 (2.45GB) + Safari 16.3 (128.5MB)
      iOS 16.3
      1OS 15.7.3
      iOS 12.5.7
      iPadOS 16.3
      iPadOS 15.7.3
      iPadOS 12.5.7
      tvOS 16.3
      watchOS 9.3
      HomePod 16.3
      AirPod, AirPod Pro, AirPod Max Firmware 5B59

      Security content for Safari 16.3

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    • #2528567

      Doing updates today. Will add successful\problems as I go along:

      Daily driver macOS Monterey 12.6.3, 2017 iMac4K Intel Kaby Lake i7, 32GB RAM, 1T SSU running Parallels VMs Win8.1 and Win10 22H2 – no problems.

      Daily driver macOS Monterey 12.6.3, 2021 M1 MacMini, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSU running Parallels VM Insider Preview Win11 on ARM Beta 22H2 22623.1180 = no problems

      macOS Big Sur 11.7.3, 2013 15″ MacBook Pro, Intel Haswell i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD running Parallels VMs Win8.1 and Win10 22H2 – no problems

      iPadOS 12.5.7 iPad Mini-2 – no problems

      iOS16.3 iPhone SE-2 – 15.7.2 -> 16.3 no problems

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      • #2530784

        iPad OS 16.3 has been behaving as expected, no problems according to her majesty swmbo 🙂

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      • #2531640

        As it gets close to 2 weeks since the release of Monterey 12.6.3, I went ahead and installed the update to my MBA.  It took only 40 minutes from download until being presented with the login screen. Will keep an eye on things and will report back if anything should show up.

        There were 2 things that popped up this month that I’ve never seen before. The first one was a message, something to the effect, plug in to power. Even though I had 50% battery remaining on my laptop. The second was a document similar to a EULA. Never seen that before. Nothing earth shattering but thought I would report it.

         

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        • #2531648

          I’ve seen the license agreement before, ever since I went to Monterey, IIRC. I always have my MBA plugged in, so I haven’t seen the “plug in to power” message.

          40 minutes seems to be about par for the course on my MBA, but that’s still a long time. Far longer than security updates for any other operating system I use (W 8.1, W 10, Linux Mint)

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          • #2531858

            Yes my LMC 21.1 is very quick on updates!

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          • #2537784

            I finally got around to installing Monterey 12.6.3 on my 2017 iMAC. I’ve been putting it off because based on update times for the iMAC and my 2017 MacBook Air when running Mojave and Catalina, I was expecting a 2 to 3 hour slog. Much to my astonishment it took only 40 minutes – about the same as the MBA. The latest Safari 16.3 update was also as fast as the MBA at less than a minute, compared to 5 to 10 minutes when running Mojave and Catalina.

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            • #2537899

              Dr. Bonzo…I had similar expeiences with 12.6.3, Safari 16.3 and then taking the leap of faith to Ventura 13.2.1.  2019 iMac.  I think Apple has done something to speed up update times, but I don’t remember where I read this.  I was nervous about going to Ventura  but it was no problem.  System Preferences is now System Settings with a different format and if you ignore any new features, as I do, it presents nothing new to learn.  I’m glad I did it.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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            • #2537964

              Something is definitely changed with Monterey. Boot times on both the iMAC and MBA are longer with Monterey than with any of Catalina, Mojave, High Sierra, or Sierra, but not irritatingly slow. The payoff seems to be that updates are faster and once booted up, both machines feel faster. Good thing for the iMAC since I had been tempted to put it in a balloon and hope it was shot down.

              The MBA doesn’t qualify for Ventura. The iMAC does but that will be the last qualifying OS for that computer.

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    • #2531686

      The first one was a message, something to the effect, plug in to power. Even though I had 50% battery remaining

      Apple require at least 50% of battery and devices connected to power with any device updates.

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      • #2531859

        I always plug in my iPhone 11 when doing updates no matter how much battery is left. Actually just upgraded to iOS 16.3 today without any issues. But never had issues updating my MBA before.

    • #2532362

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/7/2023 for the February 6, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      tvOS 16.3.1
      HomePod 16.3.1

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    • #2534030

      13th Feb 2023 iUpdates
      Ref: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      iOS 16.3.1 and iPadOS 16.3.1 iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th generation and later

      macOS 13.2.1 macOS Ventura

      tvOS 16.3.2 (details available soon) Apple TV 4K (all models) and Apple TV HD

      watchOS 9.3.1 (details available soon) Apple Watch Series 4 and later

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    • #2534296

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/14/2023 for the February 13, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.2.1 (4.04GB on Intel, 5.79GB on ARM)
      Safari 16.3.1 (for Big Sur 11.7.3, Monterey 12.6.3 and Ventura 13.2.1)
      iOS 16.3.1 (Reports now say a new version of Google Photos App fixes crashes)
      iPadOS 16.3.1 (Reports now say a new version of Google Photos App fixes crashes)
      tvOS 16.3.2
      watchOS 9.3.1
      HomePod 16.3.2

      Security content for Safari 16.3.1

      Update Note: A new version of the Google Photos App reportedly fixes the crashes with iOS/iPadOS 16.3.1. Be sure to update the App if you use it.

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    • #2534376

      installed 16.3.1 iPad iOS yesterday..no problems
      (She don’t use anything google, only apple)

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    • #2534672

      Just installed iOS 16.3.1 on iPhone 13 with no issues.  Maybe took 15-20 minutes start to finish.  After that, installed OS 13.2.1 moving from Monterey to Ventura on a 2019 iMac.  Took 85 minutes.  No issues I’ve noticed so far….except for spinning beach ball while things settle down.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2534957

        Update to my post above…iOS 16.3.1 and OS 13.2.1 may be the best overall Apple updates I’ve done.  Both in speed of the update process and lack of any problems or post update issues.  My pre update stress was for nothing. I notice this morning that Susan has updated the Patch List for all Apple updates to Install.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2535826

          Just to check-in,  updated to iOS 16.3.1 on my iPhone 11. Took about 15 minutes from download to install. No issues as of yet. Will keep an eye on things and will report back if something should happen.

    • #2535024

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/16/2023 for the February 15, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Big Sur 11.7.4 (This update has no published CVE entries)

    • #2535045

      Successful updates:

      macOS Big Sur 11.7.4 on 2013 15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7) + Safari 16.3.1 following.

      Safari 16.3.1 on 2021 M1 MacMini (ARM) and 2017 iMac4K (Intel 7th gen Kaby Lake i7) both running macOS Monterey 12.6.3. Both of these are eligible for macOS Ventura, but I’m not ready to upgrade yet.

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      • #2536089

        Updated my iPhone SE2 to iOS 16.3.1 today. No problems.

    • #2541769

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/6/2023 for the March 6, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      tvOS 16.3.3 (This update has no published CVE entries)

    • #2547079

      27th March 2023 UPDATES:

      AppleUpdates230327

      Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

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    • #2547127

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/27/2023 for the March 27, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.3 (4.32GB on Intel, 6.11GB on ARM)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.4 (1.54GB Intel/ARM)
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.5 (2.63GB)
      iOS 16.4
      iOS 15.7.4
      iPadOS 16.4
      iPadOS 15.7.4
      tvOS 16.4
      watchOS 9.4
      HomePod 16.4

      Safari 16.4 (for Monterey and Ventura 141.3MB)  Security content for Safari 16.4

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      • #2547139

        Think I’ll hold off updating the iOS and iPadOS 16.4 My original post here was a misunderstanding so I’ve updated my comment on this topic. But instead of rushing into the update as I have done often, I‘ll wait a bit.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

      • #2548634

        Took about 3 hours to download iOS/iPadOS 16.4 on our iPhones, not as long for the iPad, slow WiFi but use data for iPad. Things are running a bit slow at first but that’s because of the indexing and everything having to set well with the new update. No issues.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2548644

      Took about 3 hours to download iOS/iPadOS 16.4 on our iPhones, not as long for the iPad, slow WiFi

      With slow wi-fi you can also use Cellular for downloading updates

      * I am running iOS/iPadOS 16.5 beta 1 and watchOS 9.5 beta 1.
      All working perfectly.

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      • #2548664

        I used cellular on the iPad by preference at the time, WiFi for the iPhone because I wasn’t in much of a rush to update the iPhones.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2548668

      I did my updates yesterday with no apparent problems:
      2x macOSMonterey 12.6.4 – one iMac4K Intel Kaby Lake i7 and one M1 MacMini.
      1x macOS BigSur 11.7.5 – 15″ MacBook Pro Haswell i7
      1x iOS 16.4 – iPhone SE2

      Two macOS Catalina and one iPad Mini-2 are beyond updating (but they keep running without issue too)

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    • #2548672

      Just finished installing Monterey 12.6.4 on a 2017 macBook Air. Took about 50 minutes start to finish – 10 minutes for the download and 40 for the installation and restarts. No issues.

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    • #2550401

      AKB2000014 has been updated 4/7/2023 for the April 7, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.3.1
      iOS 16.4.1
      iPadOS 16.4.1

    • #2551096

      AKB2000014 has been updated 4/10/2023 for the April 10, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Monterey 12.6.5 (1.06 GB Intel/ARM)
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.6 (2.63GB)
      iOS 15.7.5
      iPadOS 15.7.5

      Safari 16.4.1 (141.3MB Intel/ARM)

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    • #2551293

      Successful updates yesterday (4/10):

      M1 MacMini -> Monterey 12.6.5
      iMac4K Intel Kaby Lake i7 -> Monterey 12.6.5
      15″ MacBook Pro Haswell i7 -> Big Sur 11.7.6
      Safari 16.4.1

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    • #2551944

      AKB2000014 has been updated 4/13/2023 for the April 11-12, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      tvOS 16.4.1
      HomePod 16.4.1
      AirPods Firmware versions 5E133 (all but 1st generation)
      AirPod Firmware version 6.8.8 (for 1st generation)

    • #2552206

      Just installed Safari 16.4.1 and Monterey 12.6.5 on a macBook Air. Took about a minute for Safari and about 45 for Monterey. No issues.

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      • #2552371

        Finally had a chance to update my MBA to Monterey 12.6.5. Took 45 minutes from download to login. Everything seems to be working okay. Will report back if something comes up. Safari update in a few days.

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    • #2555819

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/1/2023 for the May 1, 2023 following Rapid Security Response updates: (see top Post for links to info .)

      macOS Ventura 13.3.1 (a) Rapid Security Response update
      iOS 16.4.1 (a) Rapid Security Response update

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    • #2555811

      Installed with no problems:
      iOS 16.4.1(a) Security update on my iPhone SE2
      Ventura 13.3.1 (a) Security update on my NEW 16″ M2 MacBook Pro

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      • #2555831

        Do you mean auto installed or manual installed with no problems?  I manually installed with no problems.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2555834

          Manually installed. But I turned back on the auto update for Rapid Security Response for future ones (not for the big updates). I think iOS 16.4.1 (a) was 338MB – a pretty big chunk for cellular update, even so. I wouldn’t want a multi-GB update over cellular – give me WiFi with much more bandwidth!

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          • #2556075

            iOS 16.4.1 with Rapid Security Response (RSR) is having intermittent issues with the Tatsu Signing Server (TSS) that seems to be failing for some. So on that basis, I’ll be hanging off this update until resolved, iPad and iPhone both work fine as is and don’t want to risk the hassle effort to restore devices 🙂

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            • #2556867

              At #2555792, I posted about my problem with the Rapid Security Response update 16.4.1 (a), which was that after the update downloaded, I pressed “Install Now”, I entered my passcode, and it verified my response, the dialogue box said that there was no internet connection (tried it three times), even though I WAS connected to the internet (my iPad uses a Wi-Fi connection, not cellular).

              Is this an issue with the Tatsu Signing Server (TSS). Not sure what the Tatsu Signing Server does?

          • #2556736

            I noticed yesterday (May 4) that iOS Security Response 16.4.1 (a) had downloaded to my iPhone 8 (my iPhone is set to “Download Only”, meaning “Download iOS Updates” is On, “Install iOS Updates” is Off, and “Security Responses & System Files” is On). When I look at the size of the downloaded Security Response file, it’s 3.41 GB, which looks to me like a full iOS update, and not a Rapid Response file. I have yet to install the update. Any comments and/or advise? Thanks.

            • #2556753

              iOS 16.4.1(a) Security update is just 85.2MB. Could be you haven’t downloaded/installed other major updates on your iPhone 8. Maybe someone else can chime in with a better answer.

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

            • #2556754

              My iPhone 8 is currently running iOS 16.4.1.  My understanding is that you have to be running the latest iOS (16.4.1) to be offered the Rapid Security Response update.

            • #2556840

              my iPhone 8 (my iPhone is set to “Download Only”, meaning “Download iOS Updates” is On, “Install iOS Updates” is Off, and “Security Responses & System Files” is On)

              I have Download iOS Updates OFF and Security Responses & System Files On.  I take it you also need Download iOS Updates On to get auto updates for Security Responses?  I wasn’t sure and didn’t want regular iOS updates downloaded until I wanted to download and install them.  So, with my configuration I’m left to manually install both regular iOS and Security updates? Which is not what I intended….but you will still get the red badge alert on the System Settings icon (if your Notifications are set that way) to let you know a software update is available.  That’s what happened here.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #2556874

              .but you will still get the red badge alert on the System Settings icon (if your Notifications are set that way) to let you know a software update is available. That’s what happened here.

              Here, the red badge alert means that YOU have to download and installed the Rapid Security Responses yourself.

              Is there a setting for manually downloading and installing the regular iOS updates, but automatically downloading and installing the Rapid Security Responses?

            • #2556878

              WCHS…I think now with the confusion over auto downloads and/or auto updates, the red badge alert only is what I want.  I don’t want to download iOS updates until they’re safe to install.  Wait until the all clear is given.  Manual is fine with me. I was notified of the Security Update just like a regular update via the badge alert.  Then I could decide what to do. As to your question…I think auto downloads covers both regular iOS and Security updates, and you can then select which to auto install or not.  In my case, I had auto downloads OFF, but Security updates ON.  It did nothing because auto Downloads was OFF.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #2556886

              I think auto downloads covers both regular iOS and Security updates, and you can then select which to auto install or not.

              You say “I think”. Yep, it looks like that’s the way it works — If automatic updates is off, you can still go to the next screen, where you can elect to download the regular updates (in which case the previous screen will say “download only”) and then you can go beyond that to elect to install them {i.e., the regular ones}, in which case, the previous screen will say “On”) And independently (even if “download” and “install” regular updates are off), you can elect to automatically install the security responses.

              But, I don’t think that Security Responses can happen automatically, at least it didn’t happen in my case … maybe because I didn’t have the device plugged in. All I saw was red badge alert on the System Settings icon.

    • #2556857

      As this is the first time that Rapid Security Response (RSR) updates have been released for iOS, it’s probably prudent to hold off updating until any issues with the process have been addressed (like the Signing Server issue identified by Microfix). The update is designed to be small, 85.2 MB as identified by Myst. PKCano’s download was 338 MB, and mine was 3.41 GB, even though my iPhone 8 was already running iOS 16.4.1. That being the case, there’s just not enough to provide confidence in what’s going on at this point. Thanks for the feedback.

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      • #2556868

        Your 3.41GB download had to be a version update, not the Rapid Security Response. Google the size of the Rapid Security Response and you will find it is 85.2MB, not GBs . My numbers were not correct either.

        • #2556880

          Thanks for your response PKCano.  I would really like to agree with you, but unfortunately I have evidence to the contrary.  When I look at Software Update on my iPhone, it just tells me that iOS Security Response 16.4.1 (a) is “Downloaded.”  When I look at my iPhone Storage, the first thing listed is iOS Security Response 16.4.1 (a) at 3.41 GB.  Please see the attached screen capture.

          Also attached is a second screen shot showing that I’m on iOS 16.4.1.

          If you can explain this, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks.

          • #2556884

            Perhaps you can’t have 16.4.1 (a) without first having 16.4.1. Perhaps that covers both. 16.4.1 (a) on its own is small.
            If you rejected 16.4.1 (a) what you probably got was the full load of 16.4.1. Didn’t you say “Download iOS updates” was ON?

            • #2556891

              I updated my iPhone to iOS 16.4.1 weeks ago.  The Security Response update for 16.4.1 (a) is still sitting there waiting for me to tap Install Now, as per the attached screen capture (I have not rejected 16.4.1 (a), I just haven’t installed it).

              I agree that you will not be offered 16.4.1 (a) if you do not already have 16.4.1 installed.  As per the link in the attached screen capture, “Rapid Security Responses are delivered only to the latest version of iOS … beginning with iOS 16.4.1.”

              Yes, “Download iOS Updates” is On (“Install iOS Updates” is Off, and “Security Responses & System Files” is also On).  Thanks.

            • #2556899

              Yes, “Download iOS Updates” is On (“Install iOS Updates” is Off, and “Security Responses & System Files” is also On)

              Just to clarify, you will get a screen like this, even if “Download iOS Updates” is OFF. You get it because “Security Responses” is on.

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            • #2556925

              Could be you only have 16.4.1 iOS update downloaded and it’s not yet installed. It seems to me your system would recognize and detect the download, and it might be sitting there along with the rapid security update waiting to be installed, thus giving you the full capacity in size prior to installation for both the regular iOS update and Rapid Security update. Just a guess. Trying to think this through.

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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            • #2556933

              Thanks for trying to think this through Myst, but as I indicated in #2556891, I updated my iPhone to 16.4.1 weeks ago, and, as per the iOS Version screen capture attached in #2556880, the installed iOS on my iPhone is/shows 16.4.1.  Can’t quite understand this, and until I do I won’t be installing a 3.41 GB Security Response update.  At this point I will probably wait until the release of iOS 16.5 (currently in beta 4 according to Alex5723), and see what that looks like.  Thanks.

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    • #2556902

      But, I don’t think that Security Responses can happen automatically, at least it didn’t happen in my case … maybe because I didn’t have the device plugged in. All I saw was red badge alert on the System Settings icon

      WCHS…I don’t think Security Responses will happen automatically unless all three are toggled ON…Download iOS Updates, Install iOS Updates, and Security Responses & System Files.  I only had Security Responses toggled ON and, like you, only got the red badge alert.  It looks to me like Install iOS Updates, Downloads,  and Security Responses are linked.  I still don’t want to auto download unless I know the software has the green light to install.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2556960

      As this is the first time that Rapid Security Response (RSR) updates have been released for iOS

      It is for 16.4.1.

      I have already got 2 Rapid Security Response running iOS/iPadOS 16.5 beta 4

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    • #2557140

      To follow up on my posts above (as I hate a problem I can’t figure out), I have confirmed the same behaviour I observed on my iPhone 8 on a brand new iPhone 14. That is, with the iPhone 14 set to “Download Only”, when Security Response 16.4.1 (a) is downloaded but not yet installed, iPhone Storage indicates that the size of the Security Response is 3.62 GB. Please see the attached screen capture from the iPhone 14 (which has been running iOS 16.4.1 for many weeks).

      At this point I have a theory, but only a theory. iOS Security Response updates can be uninstalled by the user (presumably if they cause issues), unlike normal iOS updates, which do not provide a removal mechanism. In order to uninstall the update, the iPhone would need to know what to roll back to. My theory is that when Security Response 16.4.1 (a) is downloaded, an 85.2 MB update is downloaded, but if you then look at your iPhone Storage it tells you that 3.41 GB is required for an iPhone 8, and 3.62 GB is required for an iPhone 14, because that’s what’s required in order to be able to uninstall the Security Response update.

      It may also be relevant that these two iPhones are not backed up to iCloud. They are backed up using iTunes and a Windows PC.

      To test this theory, one would need to download the Security Response update, and when it’s ready to install, but before you actually install it, look at your iPhone Storage and see what it shows for iOS Security Response 16.4.1 (a). If this theory is correct, iPhone Storage will show something equivalent to the size of iOS 16.4.1, and the available storage will be reduced by that amount. This test will depend on whether being backed up to iCloud is relevant or not.

      Thanks.

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      • #2557173

        Why Downoad Only and/or Auto Update anyway?  There will be plenty of notifications that a new iOS or Security update is available.  Just wait till then and an all clear is given and then  manually download and update the old fashioned way.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2557188

          Agreed.  The only issue is that this theory seems to suggest that the storage required to install a Security Response update is not just the size of the download (85.2 MB in this case) but the size of the running iOS (more than 3 GB) plus the size of the download.

    • #2557223

      Agreed.  The only issue is that this theory seems to suggest that the storage required to install a Security Response update is not just the size of the download (85.2 MB in this case) but the size of the running iOS (more than 3 GB) plus the size of the download.

      No, its not if your have an iCloud backup that is needed to restore to previous version in case of faulty update (just like Windows.old).
      During iOS updates the ‘preparing… stage’ copies users files so they can be restored after the update, its not so with iOS OS.

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      • #2557237

        Reference Steve’s post https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000014-ongoing-list-of-apple-operating-system-updates/#post-2557140
        He has noted the following –
        “It may also be relevant that these two iPhones are not backed up to iCloud. They are backed up using iTunes and a Windows PC.”

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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      • #2557292

        Thanks for the reply Alex5723. To clarify, are you saying that during the “Preparing update” phase, a Security Response update will backup the files necessary to uninstall the update, and that these files will be copied to iCloud if enabled, or locally if not? Further, are you saying that a ‘normal’ iOS update will not backup these files? This would explain why I see Security Response 16.4.1 (a) requires 3.41 GB on my iPhone 8 and 3.62 GB on my iPhone 14, as neither device has iCloud backups enabled.  Thanks.

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      • #2557321
        I think the issue here is that Apple is testing the very new feature Security Response on us guinea pigs. It is OTA only, which means it is up to us to manually backup via iTunes (I use apple’s iTunes on win 10 PC) and/or icloudbup.
        Bottom line: make manual b/ups via iTunes and/or icloudbup before you update either an IOS full or point release or this new feature. As Security Response is OTA only, it won’t make a backup for you. Neither will an Ios update (in iTunes as of late, it no longer seems to auto b/up, thus I choose to dismiss the ‘download & update’ option, perform a manual b/up there, then eject ph, replug in ph & check b/up dates, then download/update. Then I’m assured iTunes has a latest backup it can restore from).
        My only other thought is: if you had updated 16.4.1 weeks ago OTA vs via full version with iTunes (after backing up), this new feature may rely on components or stgs that have changed since the 16.4.1 release you did. It’s why I always wait a week or 3 to update. Perhaps it’s requiring a new ver of 16.4.1? Happened to me during ios 14.

         

        [PS Yesterday, I updated my old iph 8 running 15.7.1 via Apple itunes on PC (no sim) as a test, as my primary ph is SE2 on 15.7. (FWIW, I don’t use 2fa, as i have no alternate ph#/ or trustworthy contact.) Ios 16.4.1 (not 16.4.1(a)) installed. Two red badges: 1. ‘Security Response avalable’ and 2. ‘You need to sign in with to access AID options’. Unfortunately doing the latter now has an ‘Access iCloud Data on the Web’ toggle that I can’t turn off in icloud settings. ICloud backup is now listed separately under heading ‘Device Backups’. Scrolling further down is the ‘Access icloud on the Web’ stg (no way to toggle off unless you activate 2fa.)

        16.4.1(a) just showing ‘download and install’.

        Somewhat brighter Note: all pics, mms msgsand stgs etc came over with during iTunes PC update from 15.7.1 to 16.4.1 on the i8. ]
        Apple seems to be foisting so many new security features all at once to outsmart holes, they seem to be getting ahead of themselves at the expense of users.
        PPS if you only update via OTA, perhaps the ‘Other’ storage is taking up room? Updating via iTunes gets rid of the ‘other storage’ issues. Just a thought. (not for this “(a)” obviously). It’s an anomaly. Cheers
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        • #2557588

          Thanks for the reply Deo – you put forward a number of really good ideas. I have my iPhone set to “Download Only” iOS and now Security Response updates. Once the update eventually shows up on my iPhone, I will check the release date and never install anything until it’s been available for at least a week, and sites like AskWoody advise that it should be installed (benefits outweigh issues). Prior to installing any update, I use iTunes to do an encrypted backup, in case there are any issues.

          As you indicate, these are OTA updates. I just find this convenient as once the update is actually available on the iPhone (and has gone through the “Preparing Update” process) installing the update takes less time than downloading, preparing, and verifying the same update through iTunes.

          The only issue I have is that this 85.2 MB Security Response update has turned into something that requires more than 3 GB of iPhone Storage. I have never observed this behaviour with regular iOS updates in the past. I believe this is because Security Response updates are fundamentally different in that they can be removed. A regular iOS update provides no removal mechanism, as it has been more thoroughly tested by Apple.

          As you said, this is a new feature that Apple is testing, but unfortunately, I think it’s a process that we’re going to have to get used to. Apple will likely be less rushed to release iOS updates if they have Security Response updates available addressing any current security issues.

          Thanks.

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          • #2557604

            Hi SteveIT, AFAIK, as long as you have/select ‘Download Only’ stg in updates,  any ‘normal’ update can be deleted from iphone storage, unless that’s now changed, which I don’t think it has. Included is the Security Response, which can be removed in the same manner. Plenty of advice/comments on AW site suggests this. Have done some other research, suggested same.

            Nothing wrong with OTA! Can’t get Security Responses any other way! I personally only go  iTunes route when major upgrade, or point release if I’m far behind.

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        • #2557595

          Just a query, in your post #2557140 above, you mention “have a brand new 14”.

          Are you signed into both with same Apple ID? If so, did you use ‘Quick start’ process, or restored your I8 iTunes b/up from i8 to the new 14?

          I ask as I had a situation when I rec’d my ‘new’ SE2 which was shipped with a diff O/S version. I did a ‘Quick Start”, which was successful, but as the 2 ph’s were on diff IOS point versions, I had to completely wipe the new device, update IOS on it then restore from the i8 backup via iTunes. (or icloud b/up). Perhaps this is why it’s suggesting the large 3+GB size?

          Can you ‘delete’ the downloaded 16.4.1(a) from either device? Does it show in General>iPhone Storage- is it listed there?

          Assuming you have 2fa.

          Also, after updating my i8 as per my post, I toggled off in General>Software Update>Automatic Updates> all ie. Download IOS Updates, Install Ios Updates & Security Responses & System Files, 2 hours after updating iph8 to 16.4.1 and checking those stgs, and still only see ‘16.4.1(a)’ as “d/load and install”, hence it didn’t d/load to my i8 for me.

          Yes, this is the way of the future. Hope they iron bugs out.

          • #2557605

            The iPhone 14 is my spouse’s device. I still use an iPhone 8. We have separate Apple IDs. As per the attachment in #2557140 for the iPhone 14, and #2556880 for the iPhone 8, iOS Security Response 16.4.1 (a) shows in iPhone Storage, and can be deleted.

            I find it curious that even though the iPhone 14 is using twice as much storage as the iPhone 8, the size shown for the Security Response update is very similar (see the attachments above). This is what led me to the theory that the storage indicated is what is required to remove Security Response update 16.4.1 (a) and revert the respective device to iOS 16.4.1 (which would not rely on a user’s content).

        • #2557606

          Sounds like a bug Apple should know about. I know it’s frustrating (and thx for bringing it up here). Pls send feedback to Apple and attach your screenshots  apple feedback  . I’m sure they’ll welcome it swiftly, considering pertains to this new feature. Mention that you do Not have icloud/ bup enabled ever!!! Perhaps it is reliant on that, only they can tell you. They have made other security changes recently seemingly tied into icloud, icloudbup, & 2fa…

          (Had a client that pointed out Siri did not recognize any ‘31st’ of the month in Calendar app, apple fixed it on the (.a) security response update in a week).

          In the interim, if all else is working fine on ph’s, hold off on 16.5 when/if it comes out for a week or 3 (see AW advice). Others may wish to chime in on whether to delete the 16.4.1(a) if it’s causing you issues. I would boldly go there with b/ups in place, but that’s me! Best to get sorted to your liking before ios 17 rears it’s head in June. Hang in there! Pls keep us all updated on this.

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      • #2557615

        SteveIT, I just went up the thread… your screenshots show only what is in your ‘General>Software update’, but have you checked (could you add a clipped scrn shot showing only your software version?) ie what is says in your ‘General>About’  and second line down will show ‘Software Version’??

        I think this may show you definitively if you have IOS 16.4.1 truly installed, and may answer your question (as per PKCano above).

        See here how to find out:

        36A0D212-1E5C-4FA3-B2B7-E19C90B44D48

        If it doesn’t say 16.4.1, that is why you are seeing the GB size-means you have to install 16.4.1 before you can access .a version.

         

        • #2557617

          If you look at post #2556880 above (my response to PKCano), the second attached screen capture, “iOS-Version.png” shows what is displayed when you tap on that second “iOS Version” line, which displays the installed iOS Version as 16.4.1, and what I assume is the build number of 20E252.  The second line in the About screen also shows the installed iOS Version as 16.4.1 (I just thought the screen I provided showed more detail).

          • #2557622

            Gotchya. Tapping on mine simply states “Ios 16.4.1 (20E252) This update includes improvements & bug fixes”. That’s it. No other verbage nor link.

            Recall, I didn’t download ‘ .a’ as you did. Though I would, I’ll let others advise whether to delete your what looks like ‘download pending install’ as per my post #2557606

            • #2557626

              Incidentially, if you had installed Security Response 16.4.1 (a), that same iOS Version screen is where any installed Security Response update would be listed, and where the option to “Remove Security Response” update would be presented.

    • #2557339

      are you saying that a ‘normal’ iOS update will not backup these files? This would explain why I see Security Response 16.4.1 (a) requires 3.41 GB on my iPhone 8 and 3.62 GB on my iPhone 14, as neither device has iCloud backups enabled.  Thanks.

      A ‘normal’ iOS update backups your data on your device. If you don’t have enough free space Apple will ‘lend’ you free space on iCloud in order to complete the update.

      With iCloud backup there is no need to backup OS and apps and these can be restored immediately.

      Security Response downloaded a couple of KB on my iPhone.

    • #2560265

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/18/2023 for the May, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.4 (4.33GB on Intel, 6.13GB on ARM)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.6 (1.59GB Intel/ARM)
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.7 (2.64GB)
      iOS 16.5
      iOS 15.7.6
      iPadOS 16.5
      iPadOS 15.7.6
      tvOS 16.5
      watchOS 9.5
      HomePod 16.5
      AirPod Firmware SE135 (AirPods 2 & 3, AirPodas Pro 1 & 2, AirPods Max) May 3, 2023

      Safari 16.5 (Monterey and Ventura 141.4MB, 135.5MB on Big Sur)  Security content for Safari 16.5

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    • #2560427

      OK, here’s my list of “done” updates with no problems (so far):

      iPhone SE2 iOS 16.4.1a -> 16.5
      15″ MacBook Pro (Late 2013, Haswell i7, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD) Big Sur 11.7.6 ->11.7.7
      iMac4K (Kaby Lake i7, 32GB RAM, 500GB SSD) Monterey 12.6.5 -> Ventura 13.4
      M1 MacMini (16GB RAM, 1TB SSD) Monterey 12.6.5 -> Ventura 13.4
      *NEW* M2 Max 16″MacBook Pro (12-cores CPU/38-cores GPU, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD) Ventura 13.3.1a -> 13.4

      Moving on to all Ventura (except for the 2013 MacBook Pro whose last OS is Big Sur) Posting from the M1 MacMini

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      • #2560433

        OK, here’s my list of “done” updates with no problems (so far):

        Do you also have an iPad (of some generation or another)???

        • #2560439

          iPad Mini-2 iOS 12.5.7. Doesn’t qualify for updates anymore (but it still works).

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      • #2560597

        Ios 16.5 interfered with 2FA on my bank account. It would not confirm my ID. A after a 2 hr call to bank I was finally able to disable 2FA to get access to my account.

        • #2560603

          Were you logging in to your bank with Face ID or by entering ID and Password?  Are you saying 16.5 made your iPhone look like a new device thereby triggering 2FA?  How did you turn off 2FA?  Were in the initial 2 week period after turning it On?  I thought after that you couldn’t turn it Off.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2562532

        Since it’s been just over 1 week since the latest Apple updates, I went ahead with the following updates:

        MBA: Monterey 12.6.6 & Safari 16.5

        iPhone 11: iOS 16.5

        The only issue that came up is after “preparing” Monterey 12.6.6 I clicked on “restart” and it began downloading Safari 16.5. I usually install Monterey updates and Safari updates separately. So far no issues have been found. Will report back if something comes up!

    • #2560431

      iPhone SE2 iOS 16.4.1a -> 16.6

      Have you joined the iOS dev channel ?

    • #2560444

      Doesn’t qualify for updates anymore (but it still works).

      I had thought that the Mini-2 and the Air-2 were in the same support category. I have an iPad Air-2 and it has iPadOS 15.7.6 waiting to be downloaded and installed.

      Wondering whether to wait a while or not.

      • #2560446

        Mine’s not an Air. It’s OLD.

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        • #2560464

          Mine’s not an Air. It’s OLD.

          My Air-2 is OLD, too — 2014, but it’s still eligible for 15.x.x updates. I’m sure that by the time 17.0 rolls around (June they say?), it will go off the support list.

          • #2562911

            @WCHS Our iPad Air2 is doing good since this last iPadOS update.

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

      • #2560453

        I have an iPad Air2 and will be updating in a few minutes. I’ll report back with the results. I also have an iPad 8th gen and will update it also. Same with 8Plus iphone.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2560507

      17.0 rolls around (June they say?)

      June release for devs / beta testers. Public, September with the new iPhone, iPad (iPad Air 15″ ?)… devices.

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    • #2560688

      Without going there to any of the links you posted, is there any talk of getting a fix on this?

      I am sure it will be fixed soon.

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    • #2562812

      i got an iphone 7! is it possible to get this updated to ios16?

    • #2562829

      i got an iphone 7! is it possible to get this updated to ios16?

      iOS 16 isn’t supported on iPhone 7.

    • #2562918

      @WCHS Our iPad Air2 is doing good since this last iPadOS update.

      Thanks for keeping me in mind. I updated mine too, a little more than a week ago. It’s doing fine, too. I am so accustomed to using it (and its 15.7.6 version and the old Home Button) more than my newer one, an iPad Air 5 (also doing fine but on 16.5), so it is still my go-to iPad. I’m just an old dog, I confess.

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    • #2562939

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/30/2023 for the May 30, 2023 following update: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      watchOS 9.5.1  This update has no published CVE.

    • #2567810

      AKB2000014 has been updated 6/21/2023 for the June 21, 2023 following update: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (770MB on ARM, 501.2MB on Intel)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.7
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.8 (2.19GB)
      iOS 16.5.1
      iOS 15.7.7
      iPadOS 16.5.1
      iPadOS 15.7.7
      watchOS 9.5.2
      watchOS 8.8.1

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      • #2567824

        Further security info:
        iOS and iPadOS 15.7.7
        https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213811

        iOS and iPadOS 16.5.1
        https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213814

        These updates close three exploited zero-day vulns including the zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage.

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        • #2567832

          Links always at the top under “Security content” for each iOS.
          Check it out. 🙂

        • #2567835

          These updates close three exploited zero-day vulns including the zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage.

          I couldn’t find anything about ‘zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage’.

          I wonder if it has anything to do with a strange iMessage phenomenon I found on my iPad Air 5th Generation, updated through 16.5.0.

          The Home Screen had two iMessages app icons. Clicking on one icon yielded contents that were identical to the contents of the other. I rebooted twice, thinking that this would straighten things out, but it didn’t. I was fearful that removing one would remove the other. I called Apple Support and the agent said that one would remain if the other were to be deleted, which turned out to be true. He said that it was a system glitch that sometimes occurs. But, I wonder.

          My iPad Air 2, updated through 15.7.6, did not show the same phenom.

    • #2568010

      Successful updates:

      15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7) to Big Sur 11.7.8 + Safari 16.6.1
      iMac4K (Kaby Lake i7) to Ventura 13.4.1
      2020 M1 MacMini to Ventura 13.4.1
      2023 16″ M2 Max MacBook Pro to Ventura 13.4.1
      iPhone SE-2 to iOS16.5.1

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      • #2568065

        Updated:
        5th Gen iPad to iPadOS 16.5.1
        iPhone SE to iOS 15.7.7
        No problems with either (1 day after installation of update)
        She uses iMessage…job done!

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      • #2572936

        I’ve been on vacation for the past week, so I finally have time to update my MBA. I’ve updated to macOS Monterey 12.6.7. It took 5 minutes to download, 20 minutes to prepare and 20 minutes to install. I know it probably wasn’t the best day to update after the updates yesterday were pulled by Apple. Seeing that there was a Safari issue with yesterday’s update is there an issue with Safari 16.5.2 for Monterey?

        I will keep an eye on things and report back if anything comes up!

    • #2568059

      I couldn’t find anything about ‘zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage’.

      “Kernel

      Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, iPad mini 5th generation and later

      Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel privileges. Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited against versions of iOS released before iOS 15.7.

      Description: An integer overflow was addressed with improved input validation.

      CVE-2023-32434: Georgy Kucherin (@kucher1n), Leonid Bezvershenko (@bzvr_), and Boris Larin (@oct0xor) of Kaspersky”

      • #2568060

        WCHS wrote:
        I couldn’t find anything about ‘zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage’.

        “Kernel

        Available for: iPhone 8 and later, …

        Yes, I read this, but I don’t see how this says anything about
        ‘zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage’, not even by reading between the lines.

    • #2568169

      but I don’t see how this says anything about
      ‘zero-click triangulation spyware using iMessage

      I don’t think that Apple has to spit out exactly which app/service and how-to tutorial for zero-day.
      This bug is like NSO’s Pegasus.

    • #2572601

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/10/2023 for the July 10, 2023 following Rapid Security Response updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (a)
      iOS 16.5.1 (a)
      iPadOS 16.5.1 (a)

      UPDATE NOTE: RSR pulled due to Safari bug. Info at MacRumors, MacWorld, and AppleInsider.

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      • #2572603

        Updated x3 macOS Ventura to 13.4.1 (a). One M1 and one M2 Apple Siilcon, and one Intel Kaby Lake i7.
        Updated x1 iPhone SE-2 to 16.5.1 (a)

        Real quick small updates.

      • #2572707

        iPhone 8Plus, iPad 8th gen, iPhone SE 2020, no update coming through for any of our devices for 16.5.1(a). We are on 16.5.1 as shown when generating Software Update in settings. I restarted all our devices and still shows 16.5.1. only. Any idea what’s happening here?

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

        • #2572734

          Apple removed the updates due to Safari bug

          • #2572788

            Apple removed the updates due to Safari bug

            So, what happens now, if you have already installed 16.5.1(a)??

          • #2572808

            Apple pulling the update was my first thought. Just couldn’t find anything online reporting that as the case. Thanks.

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2572835

      Apple removed the updates due to Safari bug

      So, what happens now, if you have already installed 16.5.1(a)??

      Nothing. If your iOS or MacOS work as indented leave the updates.
      If you have problems switch browsers or uninstall.

    • #2573263

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/13/2023 for the July 12, 2023 following Rapid Security Response updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (c) Security content of macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (c)
      iOS 16.5.1 (c) Security content of iOS 16.5.1 (c)
      iPadOS 16.5.1 (c) Security content of iPadOS 16.5.1 (c)

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      • #2573266

        I installed x3 macOS Ventura 13.4.1 (c) and x1 iOS 16.5.1 (c) this morning.
        Posting now from updated M1 MacMini.
        (I don’t do Social Media, so did not have problems with the (a) version.)

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    • #2573330

      I’ve recently received iOS 16.5.1 (c) Rapid Security Response update on my iPhone SE 2nd gen this morning July 13 and installed on top of the “original” 16.5.1 release and is working well without any problems

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    • #2575461

      apple final releases 24th July 2023
      iOS 16.6
      iPadOS 16.6,
      tvOS 16.6,
      watchOS 9.6
      iOS 15.7.8,
      iPadOS 15.7.8

      macOS Big Sur 11.7.9
      macOS Monterey 12.6.8
      macOS Ventura 13.5

      more info: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      😛

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    • #2575504

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/24/2023 for the July 24, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.5 (1.56GB on ARM, 1.04 on Intel)
      macOS Monterey 12.6.8
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.9 (2.61GB) + Safari 16.6 (135.5MB) – This could be the last update for Big Sur.
      iOS 16.6
      iOS 15.7.8
      iPadOS 16.6
      iPadOS 15.7.8
      watchOS 9.6
      tvOS 16.6
      HomePod 16.6

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    • #2575737

      I have updated:
      x1 to Big Sur 11.7.9 + Safari 16.6 – 15″ Haswell i7 MacBook Pro
      x3 to Ventura 13.5 – Parallels VMs on Kaby Lake i7 iMac4K, M1 MacMini, and M2Max MacBook Pro
      x1 to iOS 16.6 – iPhone SE-2

      No problems so far. The M1 MacMini and the iMac4K are my daily drivers.

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      • #2575749

        Reading around, various reports are that the battery life appears to be better. Hang on, how can these people know after just 25hrs or so and lots of different iphone models? cough
        I’ll wait until tomorrow for iOS and iPadOS updates.

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        • #2576060

          After PK Cano’s leap of faith to update on July 25, I likewise updated by iPhone 13  to 16.6 yesterday with no problems that I know of.  Update was very fast.  Will wait a couple more days before doing the OS update.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2576108

          Done both iPadOS 16.6 and iOS 15.7.8, totally uneventful and a drawn out update time for the iPad, however, the iPhone was quicker s/ with ‘AMAZING battery life’/s
          No issues on either device the day after updates 🙂

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      • #2576262

        PKCano…what about this problem with 13.5 reported elsewhere (under Apple > Ventura) in the Forum?  Did you experience it and why some Macs and not others?  Thank you.

        “macOS 13.5 breaks the Location Services setting window (located in System Settings –> Privacy & Security –> Location Services). After installing the update, apps will no longer be listed and new apps cannot have location access approved”

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2576285

          I have Location Services turned On on all three of my Ventura 13.5 installations (Intel Kaby Lake i7 iMac4K, M1 MacMini and M2 MacBook Pro). Have not encountered problems so far. And the two desktop machines are my daily drivers.

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          • #2576447

            PKCano…When I saw today that Susan B had OS 13.5 as “install”, I went ahead and installed it.  No problems with the install on a 2019 iMac, but like many others, I lost the app listings under Location Services, ie, the apps I had OKed to use my location.  I had 8 before the update, none are listed now.  Location Services is still ON.  Hopefully, if there is a 13.5.1, this will be fixed. Until then I don’t think this is a crisis and I did want to get the Security updates in 13.5.  Obviously there is a bug here.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2577931

        So I finally had some time to update my MBA to Monterey 12.6.8.

        When I first selected Software Update I was only offered Safari 16.6. I closed it and reopened Software Update and still no Monterey update. I closed it again waited 5 minutes and that time I was finally offered Monterey 12.6.8.

        The install went smoothly and no issues so far. I’ve been using my LM 21.1 more and more. It may soon become my daily driver!

         

         

        • #2577960

          Similar thing happened to me a few nights ago. I was all set to install the 12.6.8 and Safari 16.6 updates. I did the Safari update, then got called away to take care of something. The next night I was going to do the 12.6.8 update, but it was nowhere to be found; the software updater said my MBA was up to date. After a handful of attempts and restarts over a few hours I gave up. Fortunately the night after I was able to install the update. Everything seems OK.

          This has happened to me before a handful of times on my MBA and iMAC. I find it fairly irritating that I can’t update when I want to update and is one reason I’ve moved on to Linux Mint as my daily driver. I find it ironic that the free OS wins hands down for ease of use, patching ease, and rock-solid stability, over the OSs offered by trillion dollar companies.

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    • #2576132

      All our devices, iPad 8 Gen, iPhone SE 2nd Gen, and my iPhone 8 Plus, updated without a hiccup. iPad was quick, both iPhones were also fairly fast with the updates. WiFi has recently been overhauled and now very stable, most likely the reason we didn’t hit any brick wall with the updates this time.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2581671

      AKB2000014 has been updated 8/17/2023 for the August 15 and August 17, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.5.1 (475.9MB on Intel, 717.4MB on ARM) This update has no published CVE entries
      watchOS 9.6.1 This update has no published CVE entries

      • #2581775

        apple macOS Ventura 13.5.1 update addresses a bug related to location services introduced in Ventura 13.5
        Ref: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/08/17/apple-releases-macos-ventura-13-5-1/

        If debian is good enough for NASA...
        • #2581796

          (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

          That’s already linked in the top post.

          • #2581806

            That’s already linked in the top post.

            There is no link in that post, although a link to the top post would have helped.

            If debian is good enough for NASA...
            • #2581813

              There is a link in the top post to the MacRumors article under macOS Ventura.

              You don’t have a scroll bar? 🙂

              Edit: OK, added a link to the AKB# for those with no scroll bar. 🙂 🙂

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            • #2581825

              Without you and Microfix we would all be floating around aimlessly with no scroll bar and missing links. 😬

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

            • #2581852

              PK Cano….There are now a couple of posts on MacRumors about 13.5.1 messing up System Settings.  Did it update successfully for you? Anyone experience any problems with this update?

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #2581857

              For once, I didn’t have time to update my three Venturas when the updates were released. So no answers as of the moment.

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            • #2582005

              Went ahead and did it.  No problems so far.  Location Services are back just like they were.  No issues with System Settings…in fact, they seem slightly faster to respond. 2019 Intel iMac

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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            • #2582012

              Updated the 2017 Intel Kaby Lake i7 iMac4K to Ventura 13.5.1 this morning. Parallels VMs (Win8.1 and Win10 22H2) coming up normally.

              M1 MacMini and M2 Max MacBook Pro to do this afternoon. Will update with results.

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            • #2582067

              Update:
              M1 MacMini and M2 Max MacBook Pro now on Ventura 13.5.1
              Working from M1 MacMini currently.

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    • #2585870

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/7/2023 for the September 7, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Link to the AKB# for those with no scroll bar. 🙂

      macOS Ventura 13.5.2 (727.1MB on ARM, 475MB on Intel)
      iOS 16.6.1
      iPadOS 16.6.1
      watchOS 9.6.2

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      • #2586071

        All updates fix zero-click in iMessege that is being exploited by NSO’s Pegasus.

        • #2586077

          See info in articles linked in AKB2000014 above.

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    • #2586021

      M1 MacMini and M2 Max MacBook Pro now on Ventura 13.5.2 – amazingly fast. About 10 min on the former, maybe 5 on the latter.Both running Win 11 on ARM Parallels VMs.

      7th gen i7 (Kaby Lake) iMac4K  now on Ventura 13.5.2 – much slower. In spite of SSD it took around 20 min. Maybe part of the difference is, there are two Parallels VMs (Win8.1/10) on this machine. A lot of GBs to move back into service.

      iPhone SE-2 now on iOS 16.6.1 (yesterday).

      Left all of them sitting ON and inactive for a good while while they continued to count fingers and toes. All are part of my daily use at this point.

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      • #2586120

        Ditto…updated my iPhone 13 to 16.6.1 with no issues.  Updated 2019 iMac with HHD to 13.5.2.  Except for a normally slow update, 80 minutes, no issues I know of.  Preparing update always takes 30 minutes or more and this update had 3 restarts. Those of you reporting 10 min updates, must be the SSD.  I sure didn’t get that.  I get a lot of good info from Mr. Macintosh on YouTube.  He has a very good video on 13.5.2 and why we need to install it.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2586111

      there are two Parallels VMs (Win8.1/10) on this machine.

      and you intentionally infected a mac with W10, sacrilege! 🙂

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2586611

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/11/2023 for the September 11, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Link to the AKB# for those with no scroll bar. 🙂

      macOS Monterey 12.6.9
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.10  (2.2GB)
      iOS 15.7.9
      iPadOS 15.7.9

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    • #2586607

      11th September 2023 releases/updates.
      iOS 15.7.9 and iPadOS 15.7.9
      macOS Monterey 12.6.9
      macOS Big Sur 11.7.10

      https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

      plug that zero-click iMessage exploit!
      NSO Group’s Pegasus spyware at large..

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2586758

      Well the iPad was updated over the weekend with iPadOS 16.6.1, no issues encountered after general weekend usage.
      iPhone updated yesterday to iOS 15.7.9
      As per usual, bluetooth switched back off post update, so far so good..

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2586762

      Updated 2013 15″ MacBook Pro (Haswell i7) to Big Sur 11.7.10 last night.
      Assume that will be the last update for this one, as it is not eligible for a later version of macOS.

    • #2586821

      iPhone updated yesterday to iOS 15.7.9

      Why are you running iOS 15 when iOS 17 RC will be released today ?

      • #2586881

        Why are you running iOS 15 when iOS 17 RC will be released today ?

        I’m not, it wasn’t my phone which was updated 🙂

        If debian is good enough for NASA...
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    • #2586831

      As per usual, bluetooth switched back off post update, so far so good..

      I guess an update turns BT ‘on’, if it had been ‘off’. Thanks for the reminder to turn BT ‘off’ again. I keep forgetting about that.

    • #2587002

      I’m not, it wasn’t my phone which was updated

      Why is someone still running iOS 15 ?

      • #2587030

        Because their iPhone is not new enough to run 16?
        Not everyone buys a new phone every year.

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        • #2587074

          Just recently retired our iPad Air2. Other than being slow, it was doing fine with the updates for old devices.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

          • #2587094

            ust recently retired our iPad Air2.

            I’m still using my iPad Air2. It is very easy on the battery, much more so than my newer iPad Air5. And for that reason, I use it more often.

            I see that it’s on Apple’s vintage list, but it just got the 15.7.9 update. Will it keep getting updates?

            What’s the advice on continuing to use it, if it won’t get any more?

            • #2587133

              iPad Air2 is still supported, plus receives essential security updates and until Apple announces it won’t send updates through, I wouldn’t worry. We retired our iPad Air2 recently only because he wasn’t using it. It’s a great iPad for basic use. I have an iPad 8 Gen and it’s still on their support list. There are always rumors about one model or another, but go with the current status for your iPad Air2 and keep updating. iPads are notorious for longevity where updates are concerned. It’s when they hit the vintage list it won’t receive the latest iPadOS version, as in your case, Air2 at iPadOS 15.

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2588226

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/18/2023 for the September 18, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      iOS 17
      iPadOS 17
      watchOS 10
      tvOS 17
      HomePod software 17

      Note: No Security content available on these updates.

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    • #2588815

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/21/2023 for the September 21, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Ventura 13.6 (1.01GB on ARM, 608.4MB on Intel)
      macOS Monterey 12.7
      iOS 17.0.1
      iOS 16.7
      iPadOS 17.0.1
      iPadOS 16.7
      watchOS 10.0.1
      watchOS 9.6.3

      Safari 16.6.1 Security content of Safari 16.6.1

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      • #2588816

        No problems with iOS 16.7 on iPhone 13 and OS 13.6 on 2019 iMac.  Waiting for Master Patch List OK for iOS 17/17.0.1

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2588849

        iPhone 15 updated to iOS 17.0.2

        If running dev or beta you won’t see the updates.
        To get the updates users need to turn off dev/beta (can be turned on after the updates)

        Updated iPhone, iPad with 17.0.1 and Watch with 10.0.1. No problems

      • #2590373

        Today I installed iOS 16.7 on an iPhone 11 without issue.

        I also updated Monterey to 12.7 without issue also. Took 2 minutes to download,  25 minutes to prepare, 20 minutes to install with 3 reboots. Everything seems to be working but will report back if something comes up.

         

    • #2588906

      2020 M1 MacMini and 2017 iMac4K (Intel Kaby Lake i7), both running Windows in Parallels VMs, updated to macOS Ventura 13.6 – no problems with my two daily drivers.

      Updated 16″ M2Max MacBook Pro to macOS Ventura 13.6 and iPhone SE-2 to iOS 16.7 – no problems. I’m going to wait on iOS 17 for a while.

      Set up a new M2 MacMini for a friend yesterday to replace a 2014 MacMini which had slowed to a crawl running Monterey on a 5400 HDD. First time I had used the Migration Assistant. It even transferred the the Apps in working order – only had to tweak a few App Permissions, some logins, and get rid of OLD apps that it transferred too. Ezy-pezy. I’m impressed.

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      • #2588959

        I’m waiting for more feedback on iOS17 before updating the iPhone 13Mini and SE-2. iOS16.7 is running fine on both right now.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #2588966

          I was running the betas of iOS 17, iPadOS 17, wathcOS 10 with 0 problems/bugs.

    • #2589803

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/26/2023 for the September 26, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14 (6.44GB on Apple Silicon)
      iOS 17.0.2
      iPadOS 17.0.2
      watchOS 10.0.2

      Safari 17   (165.7MB) for macOS Monterey and macOS Ventura. Security content of Safari 17.
      Information on AppleInsider and MacRumors.

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    • #2591332

      PK Cano…Susan had a post on this, but I can’t find it now.  Is the recommendation still to wait for iOS 17.1 and Sonoma 14.1, or later, before considering updating?   I’m currently on 16.7 and 13.6.  I’m in no rush for any of the new features.  Thank you.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2591334

        The post is probably on the main blog in the last 30 days.
        Also, she is following Apple updates on the Master Patch list.

        I am running Ventura 13.6 on three Macs (2017 iMac4K Intel i7, 2020 M1 MacMini and 2023 M2Max 16″ MacBook Pro) and I am not in a race to move to Sonoma yet. Figure that might be around Christmas.

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      • #2591361

        iOS iPadOS 17.0.3 is out with security fixes and iPhone 15 fix.

    • #2591371

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/4/2023 for the October 4, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      iOS 17.0.3
      iPadOS 17.0.3

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    • #2593143

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/10/2023 for the October 10, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      iOS 16.7.1
      iPadOS 16.7.1

      Security content added to AKB2000014 10/11/23

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      • #2593182

        No problems with this update’s install on an iPhone 13.  I always install security updates rather quickly and, in this case, further delays iOS 17 with all it’s new features that I don’t want nor need.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2597084

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/25/2023 for the October 25, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.1 (6.52GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.1 (636.2MB on Intel, 1.04GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Monterey 12.7.1
      iOS 17.1
      iOS 16.7.2
      iOS 15.8
      iPadOS 17.1
      iPadOS 16.7.2
      iPadOS 15.8
      tvOS 17.1
      watchOS 10.1
      HomePod 17.1
      AirPods firmware Build 6A303 (10/18/23)
      AirPods firmware Build 6A305 (10/11/23

      Safari 17.1 (166MB) Security content of Safari 17.1

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      • #2597166

        No problems installing macOS Ventura 13.6.1 on a 2019 iMac, and since this was a Security update, further delays Sonoma for those of us that really don’t care about the new features we also don’t need.   Will wait at least for the OK in the Master Patch list for both iOS 17 and Sonoma.  iOS 16 and Ventura both have current Security updates.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2600645

        Just updated to Monterey 12.7.1 on a MBA 2017.  Took 2 minutes to download, 20 minutes to prepare and 25 minutes to install with 4 reboots.

        Everything seems okay. Safari will be updated in a couple days.

        • #2600716

          Bassmanzam….I’m on Ventura 13.6.1, but went ahead and updated Safari to 17.1 this morning.  Literally took only seconds.   I will probably do Sonoma before the end of the year.  Right now, it offers nothing I need.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

          • #2601069

            Reporting in that I updated Safari 17.1 on my MBA running macOS Monterey 12.7.1. Took under 1 minute to download and install.

            Since my MBA 2017 will not get any updates past Monterey, I have 1 year to figure out how to use OCLP. Does anyone have any experience running it?

    • #2597220

      Everything that can be updated is done. no problems:

      iPhone SE-2 updated to iOS 16.7.2 (not ready for iOS 17 yet).

      2017 iMac4K Intel i7 with 2 Parallels Win8.1/10 VMs updated to macOS Ventura 12.6.1 (this will be it’s last OS when Ventura is over).

      2020 M1 MacMini and 2023 M2Max 16″ MacBook Pro with a Win11 on ARM Parallels VM on each updated to macOS Ventura 12.6.1 (not ready for macOS Sonoma yet).

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    • #2598964

      Today I updated my iPhone 11 to iOS 16.7.2. It took 20 minutes from download to installed. No issues that I can see.

      Will report back if something comes up.

    • #2599081

      Susan Bradley….If I read your 10/29 Master Patch Update, are you now recommending installing iOS 17.1 for all iPhones and not just iPhone 15 and Sonoma 14.1 for all supported Macs?  Thank you.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2601048

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/7/2023 for the November 7, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.1.1
      macOS Ventura 13.6.2  Available for MacBook Pro (2021 and later) and iMac (2023)
      iOS 17.1.1
      iPadOS 17.1.1
      watchOS 10.1.1
      HomePod 17.1.1

      These updates have no published CVE entries. Just a bunch of bug fixes.

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    • #2601245

      I’m waiting until maybe next month

      If you have the new M3 MacBook Pro that came pre-installed with Ventura you need the new updates in order to install Sonoma.

      If you have an Apple watch with fast battery drain you need watchOS 10.1.1

      If your iPhone “suffer” wi-fi disconnections you need 17.1.1

      • #2601247

        Don’t have an M3 MacBook, my wristwatch is a Skagen with a battery that keeps on ticking, and WiFi here on all devices running iOS 16.7.2 works without any hiccups. 😌

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2602231

      After reading Susan Bradley’s Newsletter Plus that was sent out this morning and seeing that her iPhone 14 had been updated to iOS 17.1.1, I took the plunge and updated my iPhone 13 from 16.7.2 to 17.1.1.  That was three hours ago.  Apps appear to be OK, no unusual battery drain, nor is the phone getting hot as has been reported on other forums.  Summary…seems to be OK.

      PK Cano…I’m not so brave, however, to upgrade my 2019 iMac from Ventura to Sonoma without your end of year or so recommendation.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2604325

      I have an iPhone 11 and just checked Software Update. Its only offering 17.1.1. It no longer shows 16.x.x. So does this mean i should update to 17.1.1 at my earliest convenience?

      • #2604349

        I’m updating the iPhone 13 to iOS 17 and iPad 8th gen, at the end of the week. Will report back at a later date.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #2605815

          Seeing that it’s been 2 1/2 weeks since it’s release, I went ahead and installed iOS 17.1.1 on my iPhone 11. It took almost an hour to download, prepare and install.  I’m seeing no issues since the install.

          I wanted to install 17.1.1 before the next update comes out so I don’t have to wait another 2 weeks before installing that one.

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    • #2606988

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/30/2023 for the November 30, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.1.2 (6.54GB on ARM)
      iOS 17.1.2
      iPadOS 17.1.2

      Safari 17.1.2 Security content of Safari 17.1.2.

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      • #2607106

        No problems with iOS 17.1.2 and Safari 17.1.2.  Will probably take the jump to Sonoma with 14.2 after others (PK Cano) go first.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2607176

          Updated iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.1.2 last night.
          May tackle the 2 M-series Macs with macOS 14.1.2 this weekend (providing things stay quiet otherwise). Will post when I do.

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          • #2607179

            Same here, SE2, iPad 8, and iPhone 13 Mini. It’s all good so far. Don’t anticipate having any issues as it seems Apple is working on squashing the bugs.

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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          • #2607186

            One of the reasons I’ve been holding off on Sonoma is my computer(s) set up. I have three main computers: 2017 iMac4K Intel Kaby Lake 7th gen i7, 2020 M1 MacMini and 2023 M2Max 16″ MacBook Pro. Currently, all three are on Ventura 13.6.2, so all alike.

            But the iMac is not eligible for Sonoma – would have to be 2018 8th gen Intel. It is stuck on Ventura till it runs out of updates in a couple of years, so it will be left behind. (sniff). But the security vulnerabilities are incentive.

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          • #2607320

            Updated iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.1.2 last night.
            May tackle the 2 M-series Macs with macOS 14.1.2 this weekend (providing things stay quiet otherwise). Will post when I do.

            What’s an “iPhome”?😬

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

        • #2607966

          Installed iOS 17.1.2 on iPhone 11 this morning without any issues. While I was at it, updated Safari to 17.1.2 on my MBA Monterey without any issues.

          Haven’t seen any security patches for Monterey in awhile. Hope Apple hasn’t forgotten it!

    • #2607424

      After Action Report: Went ahead and updated my 2019 iMac from Ventura 13.6.1 to Sonoma 14.1.2 yesterday. All in all a scary process not knowing what lie ahead.  The whole process took close to two hours.  When finished, the Mac was very, very slow with spinning beachballs going crazy.  Since it was basically unusable,  I shut (turned it off) the Mac down and waited until this morning.  Somewhat slow at the start, but warmed up after 30 min or so and now seems fine.  Some things actually seem faster…like opening Settings and Finder.  Only one problem I’ve noticed so far.  I have a Printer Proxy (see screenshot) that communicates with my HP ENVY Photo 7164 that allows me to check ink levels and shows when the printer is printing.  It now won’t open when you click on the icon.  I can still check ink levels directly on the printer screen, but the proxy is quicker.  Someone else added the proxy when I got the printer and I have no idea how he did it nor how to fix this.  I think it has something to do with the proxy settings that got changed or deleted during the update.  Any suggestions?Printer-Proxy-icon

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2607441

        Open System Settings\Printers & Scanners
        Can you drag the icon for the printer to the Dock? Does that show what you want?

        Screenshot-2023-12-02-at-10.30.54-AM

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        • #2607471

          PKCano…thank you very much.  This is why so many of us rely on your experience.  Yes, once you drag this Printers & Scanner icon to the dock and click on it, it opens with the exact information I was getting with the proxy icon.  It’s the same data.  I suspect the proxy was reformatted somehow to be the HP printer icon.  How this was done is perhaps a question for another day.  You can see from this new screenshot that the new icon, called Print Center, does not look like the HP Printer proxy…but it works!

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2607850

      I usually wait a short time just to be sure there are no problems (but I have never had any). macOS is not the pile of headaches and tweaks that Windows is.
      See #2607186 for some of the reason I’ve waited. But I’m getting close. Soon.

      i am very happy to hear this!!! thanks for the feedback.

      this posted to the wrong place, but the sentiment is the same.

    • #2608303

      OK, first one done and done.

      Upgraded 2020 M1 MacMini  (16GB RAM, 1T SSD, with 25GB Win11 VM)) from Ventura 13.6.2 to Sonoma 14.1.2 this morning.

      + 7:53 am – Initiate download/install/preparing
      + 8:06 am – Request for restart.
      + 8:10-8:12 am – two or three restarts ending in the startup chime (finish of OS upgrade?), followed by the black screen with the Apple logo and the progress bar. Notation above progress bar “91%. Suspect the next 12 minutes to be coping the data back after the upgrade.
      + 8:24am -login screen, followed by choice to keep my background (Big Sur mountains pic I like, have kept since Big Sur)

      So, 41 minutes, riding herd on it all the time. Parallels VM still works. Letting it sit for several hours counting its fingers and toes. But it seems to be normal.

      2023 M2Max 16” MacBook Pro (64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 27.56GB Win11 VM) coming up when I catch my breath. More muscle, should be faster.

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      • #2608385

        Upgraded 2023 M2Max 16” MacBook Pro (64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 27.56GB Win11 VM) from Ventura 13.6.2 to Sonoma 14.1.2

        Expected difference in time didn’t transpire. Same 41 minutes in spite of the muscle, same reboots and messages. Same success. Posting from MacBook Pro now.

        • #2608985

          Your updates were very fast.  My 2019 HHD iMac took nearly 2  hours start to finish from 13.6.1 to 14.1.2.  It’s beginning to slow down in overall response times as well.  I’ve just about decided to replace the HHD with a  SSD hard disk early next year.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2608556

        Since this is my first time updating since I migrated to an Apple computer and I asked for help here, I wanted to share my experience. All went well. I don’t know if any settings changed or need to be changed, but it went very much the same way as PK documented:

        Upgraded 2023 Macbook Air 15” 8GB RAM, 1T SSD, 500GB Storage from Ventura 13.6.1 to Sonoma 14.1.2
        + 8:56 am Initiate download/install/preparing
        + 9:10 am Request for restart.
        + 9:10 – 9:14 am Two or three restarts followed by black screen, then Apple logo and progress bar with words below: “About 11 minutes remaining……….” Counting down. I did not hear startup chime, did not see notation above progress bar.
        + 9:27 am Reboot. Login screen. Change to prior wallpaper. Update completed!

    • #2610855

      AKB2000014 has been updated 12/11/2023 for the December 11, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS  Sonoma 14.2 (2.68GB on ARM)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.3 (932.3MB on Intel) + Safari 17.2 (167.9MB)
      macOS Monterey 12.7.3
      iOS 17.2
      iOS 16.7.3
      iPadOS 17.2
      iPadOS 16.7.3
      tvOS 17.2
      HomePodOS 17.2
      watchOS 10.2

      Safari 17.2 Security content of Safari 17.2

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    • #2610880

      The news is out that iOS/iPadOS 17.2 is out now. The Master Patch List does not have the earlier iOS/iPadOS 17.1.2 listed yet for install. What is the verdict on that?

      • #2610886

        Give me a few more minutes.
        Update of an iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.2.
        Will update here when finished.

        Update:
        OK. iPhone SE-2 now on iOS 17.2. Went into Settings\About. So far, so good.

        Also updated my 2020 M1 MacMini to Sonoma 14.2:
        5:57pm download/prepare
        6:05pm request restart
        6:09pm three or so reboots
        6:10pm startup chime
        6:12pm log in, sign in w/ Apple ID
        About 15 minutes start to finish. Opened the VM, started Firefox. Leaving it on for a while so it can count fingers and toes.

        Will update 2023 M2Max BacBook to Sonoma and 2017 iMac4k to Ventura 13.6.3 in the morning before Patch Tues. (if the Good Lord willing and the creek don’t rise) otherwise maybe by the weekend.

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        • #2611033

          Update:
          Updated the 2023 M2Max 16″ MacBookPro to macOS Sonoma 14.2 last night. Took about 17 minutes start to finish.

          Updated the 2017 iMac4K (Intel) from macOS Ventura 13.6.2 to Ventura 13.6.3 this morning. Took about 24 minutes round trip. Two VMs to move back and forth, so a bit longer.

          Everything seems to be working. Posting from the M1 MacMini updated last night.

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        • #2611827

          Just updated my iPhone 11 to iOS 17.2.  Took about 20 minutes from start to finish. Not seeing any issues.

          Hope to update my MBA running Monterey on the weekend.

           

          • #2612737

            Today I updated my MBA to Monterey 12.7.2.

            1 minute to download, 20 minutes to prepare and 20 minutes to install.

            No issues that I’ve seen. Will keep an eye on things for awhile. I’ll update Safari later this week.

             

    • #2610889

      I mean what is the verdict on the earlier iOS/iPadOS 17.1.2, not 17.2.

      • #2610914

        Didn’t have any problems with iOS 17.1.2

      • #2610921

        Just discovered that the Dec 4 Excel format in the Master Patch List does not match the format of the other files. iOS/iOSiPad 17.1.2 is missing in the Excel format file and that’s the one I’ve been looking at for the past two weeks!

    • #2612252

      When my 2019 iMac was in the shop earlier this week for a HDD to SSD upgrade (which by the way worked wonders in increased speed and performance…I would say it’s better now than when new.  I’ll never get a HDD Mac again). Unknown to me, the Tech installed OS 14.2. I guess to make everything current on a new Time Machine update.  It had been on 14.1.2.  Anyway, no problems with this update.  So, I went ahead and updated my iPhone 13 to 17.2.  Again, no problems with this update.  One note to highlight my Mac’s new performance, previously it had taken several minutes to complete boot up from an shutdown, now it takes 10 seconds.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2613366

      AKB2000014 has been updated 12/19/2023 for the December 19, 2023 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.2.1 (1.04GB on Apple Silicon)
      iOS 17.2.1  This update has no published CVE entries
      iOS 16.7.4. This update has no published CVE entries
      iPadOS 16.7.4. This update has no published CVE entries
      AirPods 3. firmware 6A317

      Safari 17.2.1. This update has no published CVE entries

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      • #2613439

        Firmware released :
        AirPods Max 6A307
        AirPods Pro 2 6B34
        AirPods Pro 6A307

    • #2613607

      Updated this morning (12/20./23):
      M1 MacMini and 16″ M2 Max MacBook Pro to macOS Sonoma 14.2.1
      iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.2.1

      Posting from MacBook, using the other two also with no problems encountered so far.

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    • #2614703

      PK…I followed your lead, updated a 2019 iMac w/SSD, and a iPhone 13 to the latest updates with no problems. Loving the new SSD.  I now have a super fast Mac.  Also, Merry Christmas to you and thank you for all the help and Mac support this year.  You’re a huge help and valuable resource to us all.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2630445

      AKB2000014 has been updated 1/22/2024 for the January 22, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.3 (1.83GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.4 (614.8MB on Intel)
      macOS Monterey 12.7.3
      iOS 17.3
      iOS 16.7.5
      iOS 15.8.1
      iPadOS 17.3
      iPadOS 16.7.5
      iPadOS 15.8.1
      wathcOS 10.3
      tvOS 17.3
      HomePod Software 17.3
      AirPod 3 Firmware 6A321

      Safari 17.3 (168MB on Intel) Security content of Safari 17.3

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    • #2630879

      Updated:

      iPhone SE2 to iOS 17.3

      2020 M1 MacMini (Apple Silicon, 16GB RAM with Win11 Pro Parallels VM) – to macOS Sonoma 14.3 in 13 minutes round trip.

      2017 iMac4K (Intel Kaby Lake i7, 32GB RAM Win8.1 Pro and Win10 Pro Parallels VMs) to macOS Ventura 13.6.4 in 23 minutes round trip.

      2022 M2Max MacBook Pro (Apple Silicon, 64GB RAM with Win11 Pro Parallels VM) – to macOS Sonoma 14.3 in 14 minutes round trip.

      Done and done!

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      • #2631040

        Thank you, PKC.  I followed your lead and updated my iPhone 13 and 2017 iMac this morning. I didn’t time iOS 17.3, but it was very fast…maybe 10 minutes?  The Mac was also fast compared to updates pre SSD which was installed last month.  Everything since then is faster on the Mac.  Start to finish was 27 minutes with 3 restarts.  Both seem to be working OK.  This has happened before, but I now have 3.3 GB more available storage on the Mac then before the update.  Is this possible?  Do these updates actually increase available storage by installing more efficient software?

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2631065

          Or removing the installer from Applications
          Or defragments when it copies the data back
          Or cleans up stuff like caches and temp data……

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      • #2632202

        Today  I updated my iPhone 11 to iOS 17.3 without issues.  Took about 20 minutes from start to reboot.

        I also updated my MBA 2017 to Monterey 12.7.3 again without issue.  This one took 40 minutes from start to reboot.

        I will update to Safari 17.3 in a few days.

    • #2635560

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/8/2024 for the February, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.3.1 (1.21GB on Apple Silicon)
      iOS 17.3.1
      iPadOS 17.3.1
      wathcOS 10.3.1

      Bug fixes this time. These updates have no published CVE entries.

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    • #2635631

      Bug fixes this time

      “Text may unexpectedly duplicate or overlap while typing”

    • #2635837

      Updated the M2Max MacBook Pro to Sonoma 14.3.1 this morning. Real quick. Posting from same now.

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      • #2637894

        No problems today installing 14.3.1 on  2019 iMac and 17.3.1 on iPhone 13.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2638028

        Updated M1MacMini to Sonoma 14.3.1 and iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.3.1.
        No problems.

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    • #2646017

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/6/2024 for the March, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      iOS 17.4
      iOS 16.7.6
      iOS 15.8.2  This update has no published CVE entries.
      iPadOS 17.4
      iPadOS 16.7.6
      iPadOS 15.8.2  This update has no published CVE entries.

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      • #2646100

        Updated iPad and iPhone to iOS and iPadOS 17.4 just about 2 hours ago and all is good.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #2646259

          Ditto for me.  I have not experienced any problems after installing iOS 17.4 on my iPhone 13.  I installed it now for the security updates.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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        • #2646281

          Me too. Upgraded last night. iPhone SE-2

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          • #2647075

            Upgraded iPhone 11 to iOS 17.4.  No issues to report.

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    • #2646301

      Didn’t identify my devices yesterday for iOS and iPadOS 17.4 – iPhone 13 Mini, iPad Mini6, iPhone SE2. Everything is running as expected.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2646468

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-7 visionOS 1.1

      visionOS 1.1 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214087.

      Apple maintains a Security Releases page at
      https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
      software updates with security advisories.

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-6 tvOS 17.4

      tvOS 17.4 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214086.

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-5 watchOS 10.4

      watchOS 10.4 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214088.

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-4 macOS Monterey 12.7.4

      macOS Monterey 12.7.4 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214083.

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-3 macOS Ventura 13.6.5

      macOS Ventura 13.6.5 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214085.

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-2 macOS Sonoma 14.4

      macOS Sonoma 14.4 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214084

      APPLE-SA-03-07-2024-1 Safari 17.4

      Safari 17.4 addresses the following issues.
      Information about the security content is also available at
      https://support.apple.com/kb/HT214089.

      HomePod 17.4

    • #2646644

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/8/2024 for the March 7, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.4 (3.55GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.5 (696.5MB on Intel)
      macOS Monterey 12.7.4
      watchOS 10.4
      tvOS 17.4
      HomePod 17.4

      Safari 17.4  Security content of Safari 17.4

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    • #2646646

      Updates this morning:

      2020 M1 MacMini to macOS Sonoma 14.4 (posting from this one)
      2017 iMac4K (Intel Kaby Lake i7, 32GB RAM) to macOS Monterey 13.6.5

      2023 16″ M2Max MacBook Pro to macOS Sonoma 14.4 scheduled for this afternoon.
      Update: Done. Using it now.

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    • #2651984

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/21/2024 for the March 21, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      iOS 17.4.1
      iOS 16.7.7
      iPadOS 17.4.1
      iPadOS 16.7.7
      tvOS 17.4.1

      Update: Security content added 3/25/2024.

      ************ Update in progress *************

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      • #2652001

        visionOS 1.1.1

      • #2653398

        Installed iOS 17.4.1 on my iPhone 13 this morning.  Less than 10 minutes start to finish.  All seems well.  I have not detected any problems after the install.

        PS…also did iMac to 14.4.1 which just came out.  No problems. Mac still works.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2653412

      AKB2000014 has been updated 3/25/2024 for the March 25, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 (1.51GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.6 (478.8MB on Intel + Safari 17.4.1  172.9MB)

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    • #2653740

      Updated without problems”

      iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.4.1
      2020 M1 MacMini and 2023 M2Max 16″ MacBook Pro (both running Win11 22H2 in Parallels VMs) to macOS Sonoma 14.4.1
      2017 21.5″ iMac4K (running Win8.1 and Win10 22H2 in Parallels VMs) to macOS Ventura 13.6.6 + Safari 17.4.1

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    • #2653923

      Updated my iPhone 11 to iOS 17.4.1 today:
      1 minute to download
      12 minutes preparing
      10 minutes installing

      No issues so far.  Will report back if anything comes up.

       

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    • #2671082

      AKB2000014 has been updated 5/13/2024 for the May 13, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.5  (2.43GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.7. (552.1 MB on Intel + Safari 173.2 MB)
      macOS Monterey 12.7.5
      iOS 17.5
      iOS 16.7.8
      iPadOS 17.5
      iPadOS 16.7.8
      watchOS 10.5
      tvOS 17.5
      HomePod 17.5

      Safari 17.5   Security content of Safari 17.5

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    • #2671338

      Updated 5/14/24:

      2020 M1 MacMini (Win11 in Parallels VM) updated to macOS Sonoma 14.5
      2017 iMac4K Intel Kaby Lake i7 (Win8.1 and Win10 22H2 in Parallels VMs) to macOS Ventura 13.6.7

      Leaving those two on, digesting the changes, for several hours.
      2023 17″ M2Max MacBook Pro pending when I can get off of it.

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      • #2671419

        Because of the Security updates, I went ahead and updated iPhone 13 to 17.5 and iMac 2019 SSD to 14.5.  Haven’t checked every app and setting, but all seems well.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2671420

        Finished up updating the M2Max MacBook Pro to Sonoma 14.5.
        Also updated my iPhone SE-2 to iOS 17.5

        Currently working Windows Update stuff on the first two I updated earlier.
        Everything seems to be working OK so far.

    • #2673537

      Updated iPhone 11 to iOS 17.5 no issues to report

      Updated MBA 2017 to macOS Monterey 12.7.5 no issues to report

      Will report back if anything comes up.

       

       

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    • #2673548

      Updated iPhone 11 to iOS 17.5 no issues to report

      iOS 17.5.1 released

    • #2673677

      Updated iPhone SE-2 to iOS17.5.1 – no problems.

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      • #2690843

        @PKCano if iOS 17.6 comes out before 18, why install it if 18 is only days away?  It will have all the 17.6 updates…right? Same for OS 14.6 vs Sequoia?  Just wait for Sequoia?

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2690861

          Install everything new the first day it comes out — IF you want to be the Guinea Pig for the rest of us that wait to see where the problems are! 🙂 🙂

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    • #2673703

      Update 17.5.1 on iPhone SE2 and 13 Mini, all good. MacMini M1 updated to 14.5, everything looks fine.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2690845

      if 18 is only days away?

      iOS 18 is 2 months away unless you install beta versions.

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    • #2691617

      AKB2000014 has been updated 7/29/2024 for the July 29, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.6 (2.19GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.8. (673.5 MB on Intel + Safari 173.3 MB)
      macOS Monterey 12.8
      iOS 17.6
      iOS 16.7.9
      iOS 15.8.3
      iPadOS 17.6
      iPadOS 16.7.9
      iPadOS 15.8.3
      watchOS 10.6
      tvOS 17.6
      iPod Firmware

      Safari 17.6  Security content of Safari 17.6.

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    • #2691647

      iPadOS 17.6 for the iPad Mini and iOS 17.6 on the iPhone 13 went smooth and fairly quick. Only minor glitch was iPad got stuck in “Verifying Update” mode, force restart took care of it. Also updated the SE 3rd gen and no problems. Will come back here if we have any issues with this update.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2691902

      Updated today:
      macOS Sonoma 14.6 – Two Apple Silicon Macs (M1 MacMini and M2Max MacBook Pro)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.8 – iMac4K (Intel Kaby Lake i7)
      iOS 17.6 – iPhone SE-2
      iPadOS 17.6 – 11″ M4 iPad Pro

      So far, all are working as usual. Posting from the MacBook Pro.

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    • #2692288

      Updated the MacMini M1 to Sonoma 14.6, no problems, did some work in Pages app and Photos with Affinity program, backed up to Time Machine. All is well.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2692356

      Ditto for me.  No issues updating a 2019 iMac to 14.6 and iPhone 13 to 17.6.   FYI…This post may appear twice.  Forgot to sign in earlier.

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2693292

      Updated iPhone 11 to iOS 17.6 no issues

      Updated MBA 2017 to macOS Monterey12.7.6.  No issues

      I am going to assume that this will be the last update for Monterey.  I will have to look into OCLP or even Linux Mint 22

    • #2694164

      AKB2000014 has been updated 8/7/2024 for the August 7, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 (1.42 GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.9 (476.4 MB on Intel)
      iOS 17.6.1
      iOS 16.7.10
      iPadOS 17.6.1
      iPadOS 16.7.10

      These updates have no published CVE entries.

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    • #2694168

      Updated today:
      macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 – Apple Silicon Mac (M1 MacMini)
      macOS Ventura 13.6.9 – iMac4K (Intel Kaby Lake i7)
      iOS 17.6.1 – iPhone SE-2
      iPadOS 17.6.1 – 11″ M4 iPad Pro

      All came up without a hitch.
      Letting them sit for a while to complete necessary operations.
      Will tackle the 17″ M2Max MacBook Pro when I log out for the night.

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    • #2698051

      AKB2000014 has been updated 8/20/2024 for the August 19, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.)

      watchOS 10.6.1 Update has no published CVE entries.
      tvOS 17.6.1 Update has no published CVE entries.

      There was also a re-release of iOS/iPadOS 17.6.1 – New Build 21G101.
      Information on AppleInsider
      (As of 1:40pm CDT US (same as AW server time), 8/20/24, I am still seeing Build 21G93 on my iPhone SE2 and M4 iPad Pro.)

    • #2704406

      AKB2000014 has been updated 9/16/2024 for the September 16, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequoia 15  (6.63GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Sonoma 14.7. (1.67GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.7  (686.4MB on Intel)
      iOS 18
      iOS 17.7
      iPadOS 18
      iPadOs 17.7
      watchOS 11
      tvOS 18
      HomePod 18
      AirPods 4

      Safari 15. (179.4MB)  Security content for Safari 15.

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    • #2704474

      Took the plunge with iOS 18 tonight, iPhone 13, using this device to post comments and no issues so far. iPad Mini 6th gen will get the works maybe in a few days. Want to see how this new major update behaves on iOS then go from there with the iPad. Will update the MacMini M1 to Sonoma 14.7 in the next couple days. I’ll get back then to report all results.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2704505

      I’m holding off the updates to macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 for a while.
      Updated 9/16/24:

      17″ M2Max MacBook Pro to macOS Sonoma 14.7 (using to post now)
      iPhone SE2 to iOS 17.7
      11″ M4 iPad Pro to iPadOS 17.7

      Update 9/17/24:
      iMac4K to macOS Ventura 13,7 (Ventura is the last version for Intel Kaby Lake i7)
      M1 MacMini to macOS Sonoma 14.7

      No problems so far.

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      • #2704514

        Why are you holding off PK? I know, in general, we should not update until bugs are worked out* Is that why you’re waiting?  How long is ‘a while’ Days, weeks? ; ) thanks! Donna

        * You should update if there are imp security fixes.

        • #2704515

          I have several extensions and s/w on the Macs (Paragon NTFS for Mac, Trend Micro A/V, Parallels Desktop, and my sync s/w) that I have to check out if I need new versions of the s/w before I update. When I’m sure everything is compatible, I’ll move forward. Too much to risk otherwise.

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        • #2704522

          Ditto here.  I did update iOS 17.7 and macOS 14.7 to get the security updates.  iPhone 13 and 2019 iMac both survived with no detectable problems.  I’m in no rush to get the new features I don’t need nor want in macOS 15 and iOS 18.  Will wait for you.  Thank you.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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      • #2704922

        I’m holding off the updates to macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 for a while. Updated 9/16/24

        Well, I made the right decision (again). Seems Apple pulled the iPadOS 18. It was offered on 9/16 before that happened, but I chose to install the iOS/iPadOS 17.7 instead. I’m going to crow this time – I have never had to restore an Apple device yet.

        I did buy a set of AirPods-2 Pro earlier this week. I haven’t required hearing aids yet, but at my age, I catch myself missing a few words watching TV and saying “huh?” in conversations now and then. If they work, the $250 price tag sure beats the $7-10K asked by hearing aid Cos. I will probably need the iOS/iPadOS 18 for that when I finally install it.

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        • #2704938

          If they work, the $250 price tag sure beats the $7-10K asked by hearing aid Cos.

          I’d like to hear about your experience with the AirPods 2 Pro and iOS/iPadOS 18, when you get them up and working. I’m in the same boat.

        • #2704941

          Seems Apple pulled the iPadOS 18.

          Is that only on certain models of the iPad? I have an Air-5 and it’s offering 18.

          • #2704943

            I read about is somewhere. Don’t remember where.
            Will’s article in the Newsletter? One of the articles linked for iOS/iPadOS in the main Post at the top of this topic? Or Google it.
            There is a link to which iPhones and iPads are eligible for which s/w versions linked above too.

        • #2704954

          My iPad is on iPadOS 17.7, and as I have mentioned before I will be holding off on updating that device to iPadOS 18, as well as my MacMini M1. Saw your post @PKCano and looked around, here’s what I found.
          https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/17/apple-pulls-ipados-18-m4-ipad-pro/

          iPad Pro M4 seems to have taken a big hit with users reporting their device was bricked after the iPadOS 18 update. Haven’t seen any comments like that for iPad Mini6 but hey, not going there until Apple fixes their problems with this update. Will keep it all as is for now.

          iPhone 13 running iOS 18 is working fine for me, a few irritating feature updates like with the Photos app, Apple’s organizational skills seem over done and unnecessary. Too many category details and not enough simplicity. Ridiculous move considering the Photos app was fine, for the most part, before this update. But fortunately no issues seen, just creates minor confusion and head scratching.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2704532

      I usually wait for major updates, iOS 18 is running good on my iPhone 13 since updating last night. New features like location of Apps has changed as a separate page listing for each, alphabetized. Haven’t gotten too much further than that with this iPhone major update but all seems pretty clean so far. I’ll post if any problems pop up. Want to see how iPadOS 18 and Sequoia 15 run for the masses before I update those two. But I do plan on taking the iPad Mini6 to 17.7 today.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

    • #2704535

      New features like location of Apps has changed as a separate page listing for each, alphabetized.

      Myst…I don’t understand what you mean by the quote above from your iOS 18 post. Do you mean Location Services?

      iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

      • #2704570

        Myst…  OK, I got it.  Your phone’s apps have now moved within Settings to a new Apps listing, eg, Mail is no longer a separate line item in Settings, but is now in a new Apps listing.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2704959

      Is that only on certain models of the iPad? I have an Air-5 and it’s offering 18.

      Only on M4 iPad Pro

    • #2705970

      I was hoping to say I updated my Iphone 11 to iOS 17.7 on Sunday without any issues. Unfortunately something came up today, 2 days later.

      My phone’s battery was getting down to around 15% which is the point I usually charge it.  I was out of the house so I just used the “charger” I have in my car.  Unfortunately it didn’t seem to “connect”. I tried turning it off and on but still not charging.  I thought that it might be my cord in the car. So when I got home I plugged into my brick but it wouldn’t charge either.  I turned the phone off and plugged in the charger. The only thing that happened was the phone turned on.

      I am down to about 5% battery left.  Not sure if I can try many things before I need to take it in for repair. But that would be the very last resort.  Anybody seeing this after installing iOS 17.7?

       

      • #2705973

        I have an iPhone SE-2 on 17.7 – have had no problems. I updated the day it was released (see above). Battery behaving normally.

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      • #2705992

        @bassmanzam – No problems with my iPad Mini6 on 17.7. iPhone 13 is on iOS 18 and other than a few annoying feature upgrades it’s running good, battery is fine after indexing first couple days.

        You used a wall power outlet also? And if that doesn’t get results try restarting your iPhone, or do a hard reset. Hard reset is the following –
        1. Press and quickly release the volume up button
        2. Press and quickly release the volume down button
        3. Press and hold the side button
        4. Release the side button when the Apple logo appears

        Another thing is make sure your port is free of debris.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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      • #2706028

        I did not have this problem on 17.7 on an iPhone 13.  Sounds like you tried the obvious things…different cord and charger.  Make sure the cord is completely plugged into the different chargers…car and wall.  Hopefully Myst’s suggestion for a hard restart will work.  That is the usual go to problem fixer.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2706195

      Reporting back on my iPhone 11 not charging. My patience has been tested, again.

      I talked to a colleague at work who had the same issue with his phone not charging.  He said he took it in to a phone shop in the local mall.  He said they would clean his charging port and if it worked he would pay $25 and if not he wouldn’t have to pay anything.  Cleaning out the charging port worked and he paid $25.  So this gave me some hope.  After work I went to the mall and talked to the gentleman at the phone store. He said it would cost $10 to clean the charging port or nothing if it didn’t work.  Thankfully the cleaning worked and my phone is now charging again!

      Like I said above, my patience was tested again.  Sometimes things seem bleak but there is always a solution out there!

       

       

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    • #2706507

      I updated to 17.5 – my ipad and iphone 13 are offering IOS 18.  Should I just wait for 18.0.1?

      • #2706509

        I was offered iPadOS 18 on my M4 iPad Pro, but I chose to install iPadOS 17.7 instead. Glad I did, as 18 was bricking some iPad Pros (before Apple pulled it).
        I was offered macOS 15 Sequoia on my two Apple Silicon devices (M1 MacMini and M2Max MacBook Pro), but I chose to install macOS Sonoma 14.7 instead. Glad I did, as 15 was causing problems with third-party security software (which I run).

        I’m holding off for a while. I got the security fixes this month for the current versions. And the new features in the new versions will still be there in a couple of weeks, or so, when I finally decide to upgrade. Also updated my Parallels Desktop to v.20 in preparation. My Paragon NTFS for Mac and my Sync s/w versions are OK for upgrade.

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    • #2706528

      Yikes! 18 was bricking devices!! Thanks PK. I will hold off on installing.

      as 15 was causing problems with third-party security software (which I run).

      I had read that Macs don’t work well with security sw due to Apple ‘sandboxing’ and the fact that security sw can’t get into the inner workings of the machine. I don’t know technical details, but I thought it didn’t do much good to get security software for a Mac. So I was wondering what you are running.

      I don’t use my Mac for surfing the web, I hardly ever download software – when I do, I ensure it’s from a reputable source, I try not to ever click on links in emails, try to practice good security. I was thinking Apple’s security  is fine, but if there’s sw that will help, I’ll consider it.  thanks! Donna

      • #2706536

        Yikes! 18 was bricking devices!!

        M4 iPad Pros. They pulled it so it was no longer offered for the iPad about a day after it was released.
        Didn’t hear anything about iPhones. @Myst has 18 on an iPhone 13 with no prob.

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    • #2707783

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/4/2024 for the October 3, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequioa 15.0.1. (8.62GB on Apple Silicon). This update has no published CVE entries
      iOS 18.0.1
      iPadOS 18.0.1
      watchOS 11.0.1. This update has no published CVE entries

      Safari 18.0.1. (179.4MB on Apple Silicon) for macOS Ventura and macOS Sonoma. This update has no published CVE entries

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      • #2707934

        I will update my iPhone 13 to iOS 18.0.1 but still plan on holding off with any update to iPadOS 18 and Sequioa 15.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #2710562

          Myst… Did you update to 18.01 yet?  Any issues or surprises.  Me, I’ll wait for 18.1 and think about it.  Thanks.

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

          • #2710578

            Yes. Haven’t run into any major issues. Still trying to adjust to the Photos App rearrangement of categories and other sub categories I didn’t need as I explained in my comments after first updating to iOS 18. But I’m slowly picking up speed switching around to navigate from one filter option to another. The update is ok, as with anything new there is sometimes frustration because I like to fly through each step to get to my final product. You’ll be fine after working with the apps on your device. But I don’t see anything wrong waiting for iOS 18.1. Most of the kinks have been worked through by that time.

            MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2713133

      AKB2000014 has been updated 10/28/2024 for the October 28, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequoia 15.1 (6.73GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 (1.47GB + Safari 18.0.1 179.4MB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Ventura 13.7.1 (628.6MB on Intel)
      iOS 18.1
      iOS 17.7.1
      iPadOS 18.1
      iPadOS 17.7.1
      watchOS 11.1
      tvOS 18.1
      HomePod 18.1
      AirPod Firmware (Including information on Hearing Test, Hearing Aid, and Hearing Protection for AirPod Pro 2)

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      • #2713163

        Still waiting for an all clear on Sequoia for iMac 2019 and iOS 18 for iPhone 13, but I did just update to macOS 14.7.1 to get the security updates.  No issues here.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2713165

          I’m still waiting too. Will install macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 on two Macs, and iOS 17.7.1 on my iPhone in the next day or two. May wait till I back up my Win VMs prior to Nov. updates before I make the plunge to Sequoia on the Macs. Reinstalling Sonoma on the Macs will only cost me the time to do so, but the Win VMs are a different thing altogether.

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    • #2713261

      Updated 10/29:

      Intel iMac4K to macOS Ventura 13.7.1
      M1 MacMini to macOS Sonoma 14.7.1
      M2Max MacBook Pro to macOS Sonoma 14.7.1
      M4 iPad Pro to iOS 17.7.1
      iPhone SE2 to iOS 17.7.1

      Will wait until after I update the Win VMs on all devices to go for macOS Sequoia 15.1.
      Looking forward to seeing what my new AirPods 2 Pro can do after the upgrade to iOS/iPadOS 18.1.

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      • #2713277

        Looking forward to seeing what my new AirPods 2 Pro can do after the upgrade to iOS/iPadOS 18.1.

        Please let us know about the AirPods 2 Pro!

      • #2715344

        Is it wise and safe to upgrade to Sequoia 15.1 from Sonoma 14.7.1 on my iMac 2022?

        Windows 10 Home. HP 12GB RAM 256GB SSD 4year old desktop.

        • #2715355

          I’m waiting to hear there are no issues with a couple of programs I have installed on my MacMiniM1. Until then I’m keeping it at Sonoma 14.7.1. Might update in a couple days, we’ll see. Will come back here to let everyone know how the Mac handles Sequoia 15.1.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

          • #2715380

            @Myst I’m debating whether or not to just stay on 14.7.1 and install any Sonoma security updates that come down the pike…as if my 2019 iMac didn’t qualify for Sequoia.  It qualifies, but what’s the benefit of installing Sequoia when everything is fine with Sonoma?  Features I didn’t ask for that may intrude on how I use my Mac now?  To those that have installed Sequoia, what was the learning curve for the new features? If your Mac does’t qualify for the AI features (doesn’t have the M chip), what are you left with to justify a base model Sequoia?

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #2715397

              It’s your choice whether or not to update to Sequoia. My opinion is, generally it’s a good idea to follow up on updating your machine, and then you can decide which features you want to use. In some cases as with the Photos app and its new navigation, it could be a little frustrating initially but after a while, it has not become a problem for me with iOS 18.1.

              As with any major update, such as Sequoia for the Mac, there are apps and programs that may run differently or may not run at all because of one issue or another on either end. Others here at AW may be able to give you more insight into these major updates and how they handle the whole updating process for their own machines and devices.

              It comes down to your own personal preferences. Just make sure you install security updates for your machine.

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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            • #2717182

              I have not updated my Mac yet, but I am planning to do so.  I don’t have a lot of apps and programs that I use – my usage is very basic, so my impacts may be less than most users.  I am checking out what’s changing – some of it, I will never use, but some, I will.

              I read through this….it is a lot!! I will read through again after updating to walk through the changes while on the Mac.  https://www.macrumors.com/guide/50-new-macos-sequoia-features-and-changes/

              There are lots of good sites that highlight all the updates clearly & concisely for users.

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            • #2717186

              I’m on macOS Sequoia 15.1 on two Macs now. The upgrade left my old background image. Haven’t noticed much difference in the usage.
              I do not use Apple Mail, and my use of the Pictures App is limited. I use Firefox instead of Safari.

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            • #2717398

              @PKCANO. I’m taking the Sequoia plunge today.  It looks like if you don’t have a M1 Mac (AI) and don’t use Safari, there aren’t any new features that are intrusive to your normal, Sonoma usage, ie, you should’t be surprised by things working in a new way unless you purposely invoke something like Window Tiling.  Would you say this is correct?  Anything come to your mind to look out for? Thank you.

               

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #2717412

              The second one I updated was an M1 MacMini. Using it now, don’t see any difference for my usage.

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            • #2717463

              Thank you everyone for your comments on Sequioa.  I updated to 15.1 this morning after holding off for several weeks.  I don’t have a AI compatible Mac so the usage impact may be somewhat less to non existent.  First, it didn’t blow up my 2019 iMac and the user interface and Settings look to be the same.  Took may 35-40 minutes start to finish.  I haven’t tried the new features available for non AI Macs because non of them interest me.  I did take a quick look at Photos…not much there that I noticed which is different.  I don’t use Safari and can’t comment on that.  Otherwise so far so good.  Now, on to iOS 18 when Susan signs off on that upgrade.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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    • #2713332

      Looking forward to seeing what my new AirPods 2 Pro can do after the upgrade to iOS/iPadOS 18.1.

      The first thing it can to is running hearing test and being used as hearing-aid.

    • #2713337

      Yes, but how well do they do as hearing aids?

    • #2713346

      Yes, but how well do they do as hearing aids?

      They are FDA approved and they should do better than regular hearing-aids (according to Apple as they set sound levels automatically using users profile).

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/airpods-hearing-aid-feature/

    • #2715407

      Updated the 16″ M2Max MacBook Pro from macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 to macOS Sequoia 15.1 this evening. Posting from same.

      The thing I was worried about were my Syncing software, Paragon NTFS for Mac that lets me read/write to NTFS external HDDs, and my TrendMicro software. All seem to be operational at this point. Parallels Desktop also seems to be OK, at least the Win11 VM seemed to work when I pulled it up.
      It will take me a few days to go through the other third-party programs to verify they are fully functional. Also need to look over the new features and see which ones I will use or not use.  (It didn’t even change my Sonoma background) Will report on anything worthy of notice as I go.

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    • #2715480

      Parallels Desktop also seems to be OK, at least the Win11 VM seemed to work when I pulled it up.

      Parallels brings Apple’s AI writing tools to Windows.

    • #2716382

      Updated the M1 MacMini from macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 to macOS Sequoia 15.1 this evening.

      I’m still holding out on iOS 18.1 on my iPhone SE2 and M4 iPad Pro. Maybe I’ll get around to it after MS Patch Tuesday.

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      • #2718743

        15.1.1 came out a short while ago.  Only security updates.  I usually don’t wait on those and just updated from 15.1 which had no problems.  Ditto for 15.1.1.  Everything seems to be fine.  The notes say the vulnabilities targeted for this fix seem to be mainly older Intel Macs..which is my Mac. 2019 iMac.

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

    • #2718582

      Updated to iPadOS 18.1 on my iPad Mini, everything as expected. Photos app is more detailed and categorized differently as with my iPhone on iOS 18.1, there are choices as to preferences. I’m getting familiar with customizing the layout and it’s easy to navigate through the various options. M1 MacMini is next on the list to Sequoia 15.1.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2718754

      AKB2000014 has been updated 11/19/2024 for the November 19, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequoia 15.1.1 (1.29GB on Apple Silicon)
      iOS 18.1.1
      iPadOS 18.1.1

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    • #2718763

      Updated today 11/19/24:

      M1 MacMini and 16″ M2Max MacBook Pro to MacOS 15.1.1
      iPhone SE2 from iOS 17.7.1 to iOS 18.1.1
      11″ M4 iPad Pro from iPadOS 17.7.1 to iPadOS 18.1.1

      Currently working from the M1 MacMini. Will switch to the MacBook shortly after it has a few minutes to settle down.
      Haven’t had time to get into the iPhone and iPad yet. Will pass on problems if I find any.

      Update: On the MacBook now. Everything working.

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      • #2718781

        Thk you @PKCano! Pls do keep us posted on your review of 18.8.1  (from your 17.7.1 if I recall) on your SE 2 pls.

        And THANK YOU so much for keeping us all posted when Ios versions drop so suddenly!

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    • #2724855

      AKB2000014 has been updated 12/10/2024 for the December 10, 2024 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequoia 15.2  (3.63GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Sonoma 14.7.2
      macOS Ventura 13.7.2  (629.5MB on Intel) + Safari 18.2 (179.2MB)
      iOS 18.2. (1.74GB on iPhone SE2)
      iPadOS 18.2  (2.28GB on 11″ M4 iPad Pro)
      IPadOS 17.7.3
      watchOS 11.2
      tvOS 18.2
      HomePod 18.2
      AirPods firmware

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      • #2725062

        @PKCANO Should iOS 17.7.3 be on this list?

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2725106

          No. 17.7.3 is only iPadOS. See Apple’s security bulletin linked at the top of the thread and info under iPadOS.

           

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    • #2724871

      Have updated my iPad Mini6 and iPhone 13 to iOS and iPadOS 18.2. Looking good. Have not gone to Sequoia 15 yet, still on Sonoma and will stay there with the latest update for Sonoma, 14.7.2. No reason other than I want to have time to work with the MacMiniM1 on Sequoia once I kick into high gear to upgrade. Need to see how my Affinity programs and some other points of interest handle the new OS. In no rush at the moment, will update y’all once I get moving on Sequoia.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

      • #2725398

        @Myst Did you customize Photos format to make it more what you want or did you keep it as is straight out of iOS 18?

        iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

        • #2725416

          I did customize, my choices were “Recent Days”, “Albums”, “Media Types”, “Utilities”.
          But it’s a matter of preference. These were my most used categories, and if I want to add another type such as “Shared Albums”, I can go back to “Customize and Reorder” and make that selection.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2725112

      Updated the 16″ M2Max MacBook Pro to macOS 15.2 last night. Everything seems OK, but will continue to use today.

      In the update process, I was asked if I wanted to set up Apple Intelligence. I chose “Not now.” I want to think for the computer. Not sure I want the computer to think for me yet. (Maybe in my older age when the memory loss takes over.)

      Will do the macOS 15.2 on the the M1 MacMini and the macOS 13.7.2 on the Intel iMac4K sometime today. Report to follow.

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      • #2725124

        I checked Apple Intelligence out briefly and decided I’ll wait. I know they tried to put in strict privacy/security measures, but I’m still not 100% comfortable with it.  Plus, PK, your point is well taken.  As always my technical knowledge and expertise is limited, I know more than average, but there’s so much I do not understand! and so, I tend to be more cautious than is probably warranted.

        The other aspect of privacy and security is – that horse has already left the barn – with & without my consent!!!!! : ) I don’t know how much more I can give up.

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    • #2725134

      iOS 18.2 – Not interested in the “Mail Categories” so I’m sticking with “Lists” for now, which most resembles the original layout for Mail. Too much of a ‘good thing’ can be annoying. Creativity in design defeats the purpose of what the majority find useful, in some cases. Haven’t delved into much more but when I do and hit a new feature worth mentioning for better or worse, I’ll post it here.

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2725157

      Finished the Apple updates this morning:

      iPhone SE2 to iOS 18.2
      11″ M4 iPad Pro to iPadOS 18.2
      21.5″ Intel Kaby Lake iMac4K to macOS Ventura 13.7.2
      M1 MacMini to macOS Sequoia 15.2

      Left “Apple Intelligence” setup for later on everything that it was offered.
      Everything is up and running and finishing all the after-update tasks.

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      • #2725463

        Left “Apple Intelligence” setup for later on everything that it was offered.

        It looks like one could just leave it this way (no setup done) and never get the AI “benefit,” if you have no plans to use the AI part of the update? Might it save on iOS and iPadOS overhead?

        • #2725467

          The more work a device does, the more heat it generates.
          I’m leaving it out as long as I can.

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          • #2725517

            It looks like one could just leave it this way (no setup done) and never get the AI “benefit,” if you have no plans to use the AI part of the update? Might it save on iOS and iPadOS overhead?

            The more work a device does, the more heat it generates.

            By overhead (not overheat), I meant “if you didn’t do the AI setup (and left it to wait forever for a response), would it reduce the needed GBs for the iOS/iPadOS to operate?” Perhaps AI components would not be initiated and thus, you’d have more unused system space?

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    • #2725452

      11″ M4 iPad Pro to iOS 18.2

      ..to iPadOS 18.2

    • #2725755

      I currently have an iPhone 14 running iOS 17.7.2. The only update I see is to iOS 18.2. But on the Master Patch List says to defer 18.2. Should I update to iOS 18.2 or stay pat?

      Thanks!

      • #2725759

        iOS 18, and with its latest to 18.2, is working well for me and for others I’ve talked with. I don’t get the AI that came with this major update because my iPhone 13 doesn’t have the power to run it. So it’s a moot point there, never offered with my update to iOS 18. Your iPhone 14 is in the same boat. iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 16 and that whole series is available with AI. Other than that, there are some new features as with any major update. You’ll either like them or not. My experience is I’m glad I took the plunge and have since navigated my way around customizing certain apps and it isn’t so bad. If you decide to update to iOS 18.2, and have issues or questions with the apps, someone here may be able to help.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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        • #2725831

          @bassmanzam  I’m also hesitant to upgrade to 18.2 when my 13 is working fine on 17.7.2.  Susan has said her reason to defer is because of the changes to Photos.  There are several sources on the internet that describe how to customize iOS 18 Photos to make it more like iOS 17.  Here’s one. You can search how to customize 18.2 photos for others. I’m not a photo buff and only have 20 photos or so. Shouldn’t be a problem.  I was more concerned about software issues that needed to be fixed.If Apple doesn’t come out with a 18.2.1 within a week, I’m upgrading. https://www.macworld.com/article/2547052/hate-the-new-ios-18-photos-app-heres-how-to-fix-it-in-a-few-taps.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawHENP1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHS_T49lBCuuCRJ4h2U1PCZvSCBQ6Tu3GW62I7Z_EUbT19CVE4a-weZzv_Q_aem_WSwo9Ws7yGjS6Y72ceujJg

          iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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          • #2726491

            I went ahead and upgraded to 18.2 today. Summary…1)everything on my iPhone 13 still works with no problems I’ve noticed. 2) I like the new App setting in Settings which shows all your apps alphabetized in one place. 3) Photos… now that I’ve customized the new format and reverted the photo library to Recently Added to make it more iOS 17 like…it’s fine, not really that much of a change.  Photo edits have changed and a couple of other tweaks.  The internet has many resources on how to customize and change the new Photos, albums, etc format.  It wasn’t that difficult.   As I said before in my pre update post, I don’t care for the other iOS 18.2 changes I don’t want nor need such as Control Center and Home Screen changes you can make and haven’t spend any time on them.   As someone else has said, I’ve updated and glad I did.

            iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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            • #2727323

              I upgraded to 18.2 3 days ago after several weeks of nervousness  about it.  After spending these 3 days primarily getting acquainted with Photos, I now can say my nervousness was too much about nothing.  You can customize Photos to only display your Photo Library if that’s what you want or add subsections for Favorites, Pets, Trips, on and on.  I like it but have kept mine fairly simple because I don’t need these and other subsections.  Also, 18.2 has some neat hidden features, eg, a Turn Off your phone button at the top right in Control Center.  No more pressing two buttons at the same time and taking a Screenshot by accident.  The internet is full of links on how to Customize Photos in 18.2 and where, for example, Favorites and Screenshots are now located.  Also, editing photos has changed a little bit. You can look this up as well. Aside from all this, I’ve experienced no issues with the phone in general. I think 18.2 just works.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

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            • #2727825

              Today I decided to update an iPhone 11 and iPhone 14 to iOS 18.2.  Everything went smoothly on both phones.  I still need to go through all the “improvements” but have a few days off over Christmas to play around with things.

              Thanks to all who updated before me. Made things less worrisome!

               

               

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    • #2725791

      But on the Master Patch List says to defer 18.2

      I run all betas (iPhone, iPad, watch) and never had a problem.
      iOS 18.2 works fine.
      The main point of Susan’s deferral are the changes to Photos app.

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    • #2731703

      iOS 18.2.1 is out, updated iPhone 13 and iPad Mini, everything is working good. Here’s more on this update at 9to5Mac

      MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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    • #2731711

      AKB2000014 has been updated 1/6/2025 for the January 6, 2025 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      iOS 18.2.1
      iPadOS 18.2.1

      These updates have no published CVE entries.

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    • #2743136

      AKB2000014 has been updated 1/27/2025 for the January 27, 2025 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequoia 15.3  (2.4GB on Apple Silicon)
      macOS Sonoma 14.7.3
      macOS Ventura 13.7.3 (634.4MB on Intel)
      iOS 18.3
      iPadOS 18.3
      IPadOS 17.7.4
      watchOS 11.3
      tvOS 18.3
      HomePod 18.3
      AirPods Firmware – MacRumors Firmware Update Instructions.

      Safari 18.3 for macOS Ventura and macOS Sonoma (179.4MB on Intel)
      Security content of Safari 18.3

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      • #2743149

        I updated my iPhone 13 and SE 3rd gen to iOS 18.3, nothing strange happening, all is good. No Apple Intelligence on these devices since they don’t run on enough power for AI. We’re fine with that. Will update the iPad mini6 and MacMini M1 later, if any problems come up I will post here.

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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      • #2743173

        My iPad 5 is on 17.7.2. It is offering 18.3. You say here the iPadOS 17.7.4 has been released. Why isn’t it offering 17.7.4?

        • #2743180

          This is what Apple Security Release says:

          Screenshot-2025-01-27-at-6.08.42 PM

          And from the MacRumors article:

          The new software can be downloaded on eligible iPhones and iPads over-the-air by going to Settings > General > Software Update. Apple has also released iPadOS 17.7.4 for iPads that aren’t able to run ‌iPadOS 18‌.

           

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          • #2743187

            I should have said iPad Air 5. Yes, it can run 18 (obviously, since it’s offered). So, I’m out of luck for 17.7.4.

            So, do I conclude from this that my device on 17.7.2 is less secure (because it doesn’t have 17.7.3 or 17.7.4) and that to beef up the security, I will have to jump for 18.3 (having declined 18, 18.0.1, 18.1.0 (major), 18.1.1, 18.2.0 (major), and 18.2.1?

            • #2743190

              If you scroll down, is 17.7.4 available below the offer for 18.3?
              Maybe b/c you are on 17.2, it won’t let you skip to 17.7.4?

            • #2743197

              @wchs – you initially said you had iPad5, then I saw where you corrected your comment to iPadAir5.

              I don’t see iPadOS 17.7.4 available for your Air5. The last update for your iPadAir5 model is showing up as iPadOS 17.7.2, as you’ve already noted.

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

            • #2743203

              Nope, Apple says if it’s eligible for 18, no 17.7.2+ will be offered. I’m at the end of the road for 17 and have to move on to 18. Either that or stick with 17.7.2. But, I think that choice might not be a good idea, since there are probably some security enhancements added to 18 and then even more of them for 18.3.

              The move from 18.0 to 18.1 to 18.2 to 18.3 is more than just new features, isn’t it?

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            • #2743208

              It’s a HUGE storage hit! See my post months ago, when I didn’t have storage for this crazy 18+ upgrade on my ipad 8th gen (even when you aren’t eligible for AI.) Nuts!

            • #2743215

              @wchs, Refer to this link
              iPadOSupdates

              MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

            • #2743345

              I don’t need nor update for new features.  At this point on my iPhone 13 I update for the security enhancements.

              iPhone 13, 2019 iMac(SSD)

            • #2743236

              So I’m not sure how you were able to get 17.7.2.The last update for your iPad5 was the iPadOS 16 series

              Not true. It’s not an iPad 5, but an iPad Air 5. {I made that correction in <here>}.

              I bought it in Oct 2022 and it came with 16.0, followed by 16.x.x updates throughout 2022 and into 2023.
              Then, 17.0 became available to the Air on Sept 2023 but I skipped 17.0, 17.0.1, and 17.0.2, and succumbed to 17.0.3 on Oct 3,2023, followed by 17.1.x, 17.2.x, 17.3.x, 17.4.x, 17.5.x, 17.6.x and 17.7.x through 17.7.2 from Nov 2023 to Nov 2024.

              So, this device has been solidly in the 17 series for more than a year now.

    • #2743195

      I thought I would see it if I scrolled down, but it’s not there.

      • #2743212

        ANY Apple device that is eligible for 18 (any version of 18) does NOT get an option. From ‘applecare’ rep: “You have to use windows PC, preferably the Apple itunes version, vs Windows  App version to update”.  And because lack of storage, as in my case, i8 32Gb pad, even tho I only have an 8Gb backup, I may face a total ‘wipe & reinstall’ via dfu to simply update via itunes? This is nuts. Forcing us that have no money for new unit (i8, c’mon!), to purchase new models with MORE storage? They should have told us years ago “this device will implode as we expand our ios usage to overtake your ability to use”!

        PS I have every uninstallable Apple app gone, and use two (yes 2) apps that total 300kb. Neither use FB nor any background refresh, nor use Siri or imsg/ftime. Go figure Apple.

    • #2743507

      Save 7GB Storage Per Device by Disabling Apple Intelligence

      Apple this week released iOS 18.3, iPadOS 18.3, and macOS Sequoia 15.3, software updates that enable Apple Intelligence on supported devices by default. Whether you own an iPhone, iPad, Mac – or indeed all three – regardless of what you think about Apple Intelligence, there’s one reason why you may want to disable Apple’s AI features at the earliest opportunity: To reclaim storage…

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    • #2743513

      Finished my Apple updates today:

      iPhone SE2 to iOS 18.3
      21.5″ Intel Kaby Lake iMac4K to macOS Ventura 13.7.3
      11″ M4 iPad Pro to iPadOS 18.3
      M1 MacMini to macOS Sequoia 15.3
      17″ M2Max Macbook Pro to macOS Sequoia 15.3

      Turned OFF “Apple Intelligence” on the last three Apple Silicon devices. I’m not Ready for it.
      The iPhone SE2 and the Intel iMac4K are not eligible for “Apple Intelligence”
      Everything is up and running and finishing all the after-update tasks.
      Posting from the MacBook

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    • #2747206

      AKB2000014 has been updated 2/10/2025 for the February, 2025 following updates: (see top Post for links to info on features and security content.) Device eligibility listed for macOS Sequoia 15 and iOS/iPadOS 18 in top post.

      macOS Sequoia 15.3.1  (1.43GB on Apple Silicon) This update has no published CVE entries.
      macOS Sonoma 14.7.4 This update has no published CVE entries.
      macOS Ventura 13.7.4 (477MB on Intel) This update has no published CVE entries.
      iOS 18.3.1  (347MB on iPhone SE2)
      iPadOS 18.3.1. (738.2MB on M4 Apple Silicon)
      IPadOS 17.7.5
      watchOS 11.3.1 This update has no published CVE entries.

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    • #2747219

      Not wasting any time, I have updated:

      iPhone SE2 to iOS 18.3.1
      21.5″ Intel Kaby Lake iMac4K to macOS Ventura 13.7.4
      11″ M4 iPad Pro to iPadOS 18.3.1
      M1 MacMini to macOS Sequoia 15.3.1
      17″ M2Max Macbook Pro to macOS Sequoia 15.3.1

      Turned OFF “Apple Intelligence” again on the M4 Pro iPad. It didn’t learn the first time, and I’m still not Ready for it. macOS Sequoia remembered.
      Posting from the MacBook

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      • #2747230

        I just updated my iPad and had to turn off Apple Intelligence again.  I think it’s very sneaky, annoying (why do I have to opt out? it should be off by default).  It is wrong for Apple to make users turn this feature off every time we update.  I feel like they’re trying to trick people or hope they don’t notice.

        • #2747238

          Apple is not the only SE who brings back their features by default. It is the user who decides whether to utilize these new additions when the updates take place. It’s all a part of their program and development. If you don’t want to use it, just continue to turn it off after the update is complete.

          MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

          • #2747245

            Apple is not the only SE who brings back their features by default.

            I know. I don’t like it when others do it either.  We have a difference of opinion. I think the user should be able to choose to “Opt-In” or turn on a feature vs. having it turned on by default and once the user turns it off, I think it should stay off until they decide to change it.

        • #2747254

          I updated my iPad, too – a Air 5, but it left Apple Intelligence off. The only toggle I find myself checking after an update is Bluetooth. I want it to remain off so that it doesn’t interfere with the Bluetooth on my older iPad, which I use more frequently, but I can always count on its having changed to ON after an update.

    • #2747332

      Updated iPhone 16 Pro Max (on beta), iPad Pro 11″ M2 (on beta), Apple watch Ultra (on beta).

      All is ok.

    • #2747448
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    • #2747472

      Updated an iPhone 2022 SE from 18.1.1 to 18.3.1
      Guess what, no AI whatsoever, nothing in apps, settings etc.,
      No popups or warnings! ..She’s delighted (as am I)

      Update verified and went smoothly as per usual with apple iOS.
      One other thing I noticed was that bluetooth wasn’t switched back on
      after the update, so it seems apple are now honoring settings.
      Sometimes it’s worth waiting before updating 🙂

      If debian is good enough for NASA...
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      • #2747485

        The iPhone SE 2022 does not have enough power to run Apple’s AI. Glad everything worked out in your favor.

        See this post
        AI on iPhone SE

        MacOS iPadOS and sometimes SOS

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