14th Gen processors, and (of course) AI

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ISSUE 20.44 • 2023-10-30 INTEL NEWS By Will Fastie Intel made some impressive announcements, but Qualcomm may get all the good press. You know we’ve b
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Qualcomm the disruptor.

Qualcomm so far failed to impress with its PC CPUs.

I think that Nvidia will be the disruptor

Nvidia already commands about 80% of the discrete graphics processors for PCs, as well as most of the AI and HPC GPU market. But it looks like the company is ready to take on yet another major market: processors for client PCs that run Microsoft Windows, reports Reuters. AMD, which has historically competed against Intel on this market with x86 offerings, is also venturing into Arm-based CPUs for desktops and laptops, the news agency claims, citing two sources with knowledge of the matter. Both companies aim to introduce their Arm SoCs for client PCs in 2025…

..All are based on the Raptor Lake architecture and use Intel’s 7nm manufacturing process…

Intel is 5 years behind Apple with 7nm while Apple will interduce the first 3nm Macs today.

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Excellent article. HUGE thanks for the info about the new Qualcomm chips.

This was incorrectly posted as a reply – should have been inline.

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Wouldn’t it be nice to have 2 disruptors! Nvidia and Qualcomm.

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McDonalds introduces a new burger, surely that should be the key takeaway?

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most motherboard vendors have issued recent bios/firmware updates that would support 14th gen Intel CPUs on boards with recent 600 & 700 series chipsets

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Can someone give me some insight?

I google ‘benchmark [processor model]’ and get pages that talk of benchmarks that are tens of thousands for newer models. (13 gen i5s are in the 30K??

And if you google low end / several year old processors and they are a fraction of the benchmark of newer chips (4 – 5th gen i5s are around 4K – 6K).

Atoms, celerons are < 1K

But the newer machines aren’t blazingly fast / many times faster to open apps, boot up, surf, etc. than older ones.  Are the benchmarks doing obscure tasks that a ‘usual’ user doesn’t do?

Even with SSD vs. spinning hard drives.  And faster RAM…

Is it just the bloat of windows / apps – they grow to use all the processing power that’s available these days?  And yeah, benchmarks might not represent what a user is doing, but still…. all those cores, faster speeds, etc.

It’s disheartening to read of these higher benchmarks, but you still wait a (yes, small) amount of time for apps to open, etc. Yes, websites rely on the speed of the internet / web server.

But with these speeds and number of processors these days, anyone else frustrated that usability speed doesn’t seem to reflect the fast processors / RAM / SSDs? : )

ANd in most cases, it’s a small / fraction of a second longer to do this or that. But those fractions add up?

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saw this recent article from Beebom

https://beebom.com/intel-14th-gen-meteor-lake-unveiling-ai-everywhere/

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a wrote:

Wouldn’t it be nice to have 2 disruptors! Nvidia and Qualcomm.

Three. Add AMD.

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