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Defender is disabled when any registered AV solution such as Malwarebytes is running. DefenderUI is intended for those wanting to use Defender as their only antivirus.

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rc primak

Hi Brocktoon:

Just an FYI that there might be a connection between these 30088-27 update errors and the privacy settings in MS Office C2R.

After I enabled all 5 privacy settings in my MS Office 2019 C2R at File | Office Account | Privacy Settings | Manage Settings (i.e., all optional data collection, Connected Experiences, and personalized offers options) and restarted my computer (the system restart is important) my manual check for updates at File | Office Account | Update Options | Update Now ran to completion and I was updated from Version 2406 / Build 17726.20126 (rel. 26-Jun-2024) to Version 2406 / Build 17726.20160 (rel. 09-Jul-2024).

See my 30-Jul-2024 post today on page 4 of Prius04’s Microsoft 365 Update Error 30088-27 in the MS Answers forum for details, and note my advice there to disable the Fast Startup power option in Windows 10 and 11.

Kudos to Lauriejm56 for posting this workaround in Prius04’s topic.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.3 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24060.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.7.121-1.0.1293 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 C2R Version 2406 / Build 17726.20160

audeq45 wrote:

I couldn’t help but notice that the slider for “Prevent malware from ever infecting this system” was turned off and not even mentioned

Hi audeq45:

From Deanna McElveen comments below Figure 10 of her newsletter article, which shows that “Prevent malware from ever infecting this system” switch as the final setting on the Home page:

“The last entry is an attempt at humor. Clicking it will take you to VoodooSoft’s paid protection product.”

I’m not amused.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.3 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24060.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.7.121-1.0.1293 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 C2R Version 2406 / Build 17726.20126

Hi WCHS:

There might be a problem with Firefox v128.0.3.

I haven’t had issues with the AskWoody site (yet), but I could not use the MS Answers forum yesterday at https://answers.microsoft.com/ with Firefox because of slow connections (e.g., login prompts and pages would eventually display but wouldn’t render correctly) and I had to switch to MS Edge to post on that site.  That MS Answers site is working correctly with Firefox this morning but I’ve noticed glitchy behaviour on a few other sites since updating to Firefox v1280.0.2 and/or v128.0.3.

I don’t know if it’s relevant, but I live in Canada and my Firefox setting at Settings | Privacy & Security | DNS Over HTTPS | Enable DNS over HTTPS is set to Max Protection, and the default DNS provider in Canada is CIRA Canadian Shield (i.e., not Cloudflare).  I haven’t tested to see if changing those security settings makes a difference.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24060.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * Microsoft * Firefox v128.0.3 * Microsoft Edge v127.0.2651.74

rc primak wrote:

Question: Will using Malwarebytes Paid Edition prevent some of the Defender hardening tweaks from being implemented?

Hi rc primak:

I use MS Defender as my primary AV and Malwarebytes Premium for secondary/backup real-time protection (i.e., General | Windows Security Center | Always Register Malwarebytes in the Windows Security Center is OFF in my Malwarebytes settings) on my Win 10 Pro machine.

According to digmorcrusher’s 26-May-2023 post in Malwarebytes Premium and Microsoft Defender Boosted Through DefenderUI? in the Malwarebytes forum, as long as you have Malwarebytes Premium configured this way then Malwarebytes’ real-time protection should not interfere with DefenderUI. I can’t confirm if that is correct, however,  since I have not tested DefenderUI myself.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24060.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * Firefox v128.0.3

rc primak, I think you will have to make Microsoft Defender the primary provider,

Figure 3. If this warning comes up, you need to uninstall previous antivirus software.
Deanna says uninstall, but the warning says: “or set Microsoft Defender as the primary security provider. I use Malwarebytes Free as a second opinion on demand scanner only, with Microsoft Defender as primary. If you try this DefenderUI program, please report to us what your thoughts and opinions are, thank you.

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rc primak

I’ll look into this utility when I get a chance. It looks promising.

Question: Will using Malwarebytes Paid Edition prevent some of the Defender hardening tweaks from being implemented?

-- rc primak

I think I’ll keep using the Browser Guard extension until it’s no longer supported, or hopefully Malwarebytes will release a Manifest V3 compliant version.

 

GeoffB

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Alex5723

GeoffB wrote:

shed any light on why Chrome suddenly has a problem with Malwarebytes Browser Guard.

Chrome in moving to manifest V3 for extensions.

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/chrome-empty-new-tab-page-extension-may-no-longer-be-supported/#post-2690846

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GeoffB

I use Malwarebytes and its Browser Guard (Version 2.6.27) for Chrome.  I just checked through chrome://extensions to see if the Browser Guard was up to date,  and got a message that ‘this extension may soon no longer be supported’ with suggestions to replace it with alternative (but not Malwarebytes) extensions available in the Chrome Web Store.

The reason given for possible non support was that the Malwarebytes extension didn’t meet Chrome’s standards or words to that effect.  Can anyone shed any light on why Chrome suddenly has a problem with Malwarebytes Browser Guard.

Appreciate any views or help on this.

regards

GeoffB

 

 

 

 

 

RetiredGeek wrote:

Every time it tells me, and it does so often, that Cloud Virus protection is not enabled and I tell it to Dismiss it won’t clear the problem until I do it a second time w/associated UAC prompt to boot.

Hi RetiredGeek:

I use MS Defender as my primary AV and Malwarebytes Premium for secondary/backup real-time protection (i.e., General | Windows Security Center | Always Register Malwarebytes in the Windows Security Center is OFF in Malwarebytes) on my Win 10 Pro machine and I don’t see a Defender warning about Cloud Virus Protection. Perhaps that’s because OneDrive is disabled on my system.

Do you use a cloud service like OneDrive, etc. for backup/syncing?
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.3 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24060.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783

Bob,

Yes, I use Malwarebytes Pro (lifetime license) as my main AV. Howerer, I’ve had the same problems with machines that have only Defender installed.

As reported by my CMsLocalPcInfo.ps1 program:

--- Windows Security  ---

Item                  Value                                                     
------                -----                                                     
Security Software                                                               
  Firewall            On                                                        
  #1 AV Program       Malwarebytes                                              
  #1 AV State         Real Time Protection: Enabled                             
                      Update Status       : Up to date                          
  #2 AV Program       Windows Defender                                          
  #2 AV State         Real Time Protection: Disabled                            
                      Update Status       : Up to date                          
  Defender Sandboxed  False   

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

PowerShell & VBA Rule!
Computer Specs

Hi EricB:

I don’t normally use the sidebar, but I tested today with Firefox v128.0.2, and in order to make History the persistent option I opened the sidebar and switched from Bookmarks view to History view, went to View | Sidebar, toggled OFF (disabled) History and closed Firefox. I started Firefox again and went back to View | Sidebar and toggled ON (re-enabled) History as shown below, and after that My Firefox v128.0.2 browser would always launch with the sidebar open to History view instead of Bookmarks view.

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.2 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24060.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783

Brocktoon wrote:

how do you patch or fix if the update system isn’t working?

Hi Brocktoon:

Just an FYI that Prius 04 posted on 14-Jul-2024 in their topic Microsoft 365 Update Error 30088-27 and confirmed that running the command:

"C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ClickToRun\officec2rclient.exe" /update user updatetoversion=16.0.17726.20160

from an elevated command prompt with Administrator rights as instructed in Diane Poremsky’s slipstick.com article Uninstall Updates in Office ‘Click to Run’ updated their MS Office C2R to the latest Version 2406 / Build 17726.20160 (rel. 09-Jul-2024). Unfortunately, that forced update did not fix the 30088-27 error they see when they try to run a manual update check at File | Office Account | Update Options | Update Now.

I’m going to wait a bit longer to see if Microsoft can fix the 3008-27 error from their own end and/or that an automatic background update will eventually patch me to the latest build. However, I’m not willing to wait too long since the current Version 2406 / Build 17726.20160 includes security updates for the CVEs listed <here>.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24050.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 C2R Version 2406 / Build 17726.20126

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IronTechmonkey

Mark wrote:

I don’t have a Prtscn key, at least on the Windows computer.

Hi Mark:

Are you certain?  I’ve never seen a keyboard for a Windows computer that did not have a Print Screen key.

See the section titled “How to take a screenshot using the Print Screen key” in the Microsoft Learning Center article How to take screenshots on Windows 11, which notes that different keyboards have different layouts and use different labels for the Print Screen key (e.g., Prt Sc, prt scn, Prnt Scrn, etc.). For example, the Print Screen (F10) key on my Dell Inspiron laptop keyboard is located on the top row of keys with the function keys and is labeled “prt sc” (see the attached image from my Inspiron setup and specifications manual).

Since you have a Win 11 OS also see the 19-Apr-202 BleepingComputer article Windows 11 changing Print Screen to open Snipping Tool by default. If Settings | Accessibility | Keyboard | Use the Print Screen Key to Open the Snipping Tool is toggled ON you will automatically launch the snipping tool when you press the Print Screen key instead of capturing an image of your screen, so you might need to turn that setting OFF to use your Print Screen key “normally” to capture a screenshot of your Win 11 Start menu.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4651 * Firefox v128.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24050.7-1.1.24060.5 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.6.117-1.0.1280 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783