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    • #38985

      No real slow WU scan problems seen on my dad’s Toshiba based Win8.1 laptop, woody.

      Saw this quote from MS support KB article 3172605:

      “Known issues in this update

      Issue 1

      Symptom
      After you install KB 3133977, the software for Intel Bluetooth devices may not be fully functional because of existing software issues in the Intel Bluetooth driver software. These issues may affect Bluetooth keyboards, mice, audio streaming devices, and voice headsets. You may also not be able to pair new Bluetooth devices. Intel is currently working on an update to address their software incompatibilities.”

      Installing “KB3133977” breaks Intel bluetooth devices?

    • #38983

      Regarding KB 3172605, this is from the MS website: “Known issues in this update

      •Issue 1
      Symptom
      After you install KB3133977, the software for Intel Bluetooth devices may not be fully functional because of existing software issues in the Intel Bluetooth driver software. These issues may affect Bluetooth keyboards, mice, audio streaming devices, and voice headsets. You may also not be able to pair new Bluetooth devices. Intel is currently working on an update to address their software incompatibilities.

      Workaround
      If you require Intel Bluetooth support on Windows 7 before the revised software is available, the only known workaround at this time is to uninstall this update temporarily and then reinstall it after Intel has updated their software.” End quote from the MS website.

      So basically they pulled KB3161608 (a rollup) that killed Intel Bluetooth, after identifying a known update by number (KB3133977 – a BitLocker can’t encrypt drives because of service crashes in svchost.exe process in Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2), and replaced it with a new rollup, also including the Bluetooth killer, but now they flagged it as an issue. Unlike other parts of the rollups, KB 3133977 is downloadable as an individual MUI.

      My question now is: Is KB 3133977 the update part of KB3161608 that actually kills Intel Bluetooth? Or is it another part of the rollup? Everything from MS is ambiguous or clouded.

      IF MS had ANY smarts (hard not to use an obscenity here), and actually cared about patching Win 7 beyond their GWX malware, or about their users, they would have released the rollup sans KB3133977 (or whichever was the actual Intel Bluetooth killer) since they appear to KNOW the issue at hand, but instead punted to Intel (shades of the old dueling drivers of the Windows 3.1 era).

      Intel did just release a new set of drivers (Lenovo just released a patch via their system updater), but I have not tried to reinstall either the old or this new MS rollup KB to see if the Lenovo patch helped.

      As before, Win10 has some interest to me, but MS is driving me to resist it (even if the stopped snooping and gave me Win7 level update control), no matter what since they are clearly NOT even remotely ethical or customer-centric.

    • #38977

      I installed KB3161608 on two Win7 32bit netbooks and one 64bit Home Premium around two weeks before the July patches were scheduled to come through, and for the first time in several months they didn’t stop WU from working and pushing the CPU up to 50%. I’ve just installed the July patches (including KB3168965) which took around 12 mins to download and 10 mins to install. So as far as I can tell, it has fixed something, although I still don’t get (haven’t for a year) an ‘updates are available’ notification in the System Tray. Bluetooth is OK but then it isn’t Intel, and I had previously hidden KB3133977 anyway.

      The optional KB3172605 July rollup has just come through, so now I’m just pondering on what to do with it – since it’s optional, I presume the usual advice would be to hide it, but as it’s supposed to replace 3161608 – to install or not to install that is the question!

    • #43390

      ASUS motherboards are in some HP and Dell PCs but may be rebranded.

      Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#63545c2c395e

      “It all centres around Asus motherboards.”

      “Now 27 years old, Asus is one of the largest PC component makers and supplies motherboards to many of the world’s biggest PC makers.”

      “One downside: some major PC makers like Dell and HP rebrand the motherboard as the computer’s model number. In which case you should do a web search on your model or call the manufacturer directly.”

      “Microsoft has also done nothing to modify KB3133977 or release a new patch so users with Asus motherboards don’t run into this problem in the first place. Furthermore, at the time of publishing, KB3133977 remains a ‘Recommended’ in Windows Update for Windows 7.

      Needless to say, conspiracy theorists will have a ball seeing it as yet another new way Microsoft can push users to Windows 10. Especially with upgrade rates slowing in April. This in itself is remarkable given the increasing number of heavy handed and devious ways Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 onto Windows 7 and Windows 8 users.

      Regardless, the message is clear: life is going to become increasingly uncomfortable for Windows 7 users from now on. Whether they like it or not…”

      Will M$ soon make us an offer “we can’t refuse”?

      JF

    • #41011

      I’ve had the WinUpd search/download forever problem for quite a while. I tried to download kb3133977 per your advice, but it would not install with “not applicable to your computer”.

      Win7 Home premium x64

    • #42033

      Thanks to askvg.com, here is the list of individual items included in the “SP2” rollup:

      KB2574819 KB2603229 KB2607047 KB2607576 KB2633952 KB2639308
      KB2640148 KB2647753 KB2660075 KB2661254 KB2677070 KB2679255
      KB2699779 KB2709630 KB2709981 KB2719857 KB2726535 KB2731771
      KB2732059 KB2732487 KB2732500 KB2735855 KB2739159 KB2741355
      KB2749655 KB2756822 KB2760730 KB2762895 KB2763523 KB2773072
      KB2779562 KB2786081 KB2786400 KB2791765 KB2794119 KB2798162
      KB2799926 KB2800095 KB2808679 KB2813956 KB2829104 KB2830477
      KB2834140 KB2835174 KB2836502 KB2843630 KB2846960 KB2846960
      KB2847077 KB2852386 KB2853952 KB2863058 KB2868116 KB2882822
      KB2888049 KB2890882 KB2891804 KB2893519 KB2904266 KB2905454
      KB2908783 KB2913152 KB2913431 KB2913751 KB2918077 KB2919469
      KB2922717 KB2923398 KB2923545 KB2928562 KB2929733 KB2929755
      KB2966583 KB2970228 KB2973337 KB2977728 KB2978092 KB2980245
      KB2981580 KB2985461 KB2994023 KB2998527 KB2999226 KB3000988
      KB3001554 KB3004394 KB3005788 KB3006121 KB3006137 KB3006625
      KB3008627 KB3009736 KB3013410 KB3013531 KB3014406 KB3020338
      KB3020370 KB3040272 KB3045645 KB3048761 KB3049874 KB3054476
      KB3065979 KB3068708 KB3075249 KB3077715 KB3078667 KB3080079
      KB3080149 KB3081954 KB3092627 KB3095649 KB3102429 KB3107998
      KB3112148 KB3118401 KB3121255 KB3133977 KB3137061 KB3138378
      KB3138901 KB3147071 KB3148851

      Looks like 123 updates to me. That’s way fewer than I expected but no doubt several of these supersede multiple older updates each.

    • #42824

      Woody,

      I’m on Win 7 64 bit.

      I had all of the patches listed by the German link for Win7 64 bit “fast updates” with the exceptions of the “Windows update patches”.

      I only have KB3075851 August 2015 Update Client installed and have ALL the ones after it “hidden” (not installed) due to other issues reported with telemetry/tracking/etc…

      It only takes me 1 minute to check for updates this morning.

      It did take about 5 minutes previously to installing KB3153199 this A.M.

      My current patches waiting/hidden on Win7 64bit are:

      Waiting and monitoring any posts for next few weeks (as I do with most releases)

      KB3142024 Security Update Network Framework 3.51
      KB3136000 Security Update Network Framework 4.61
      KB3142037 Security Update Network Framework 4.61

      KB3153171 Security Update for Windows 7 x64
      KB3155178 Security Update for Windows 7 x64
      KB3156013 Security Update for Windows 7 x64
      KB3156016 Security Update for Windows 7 x64
      KB3156017 Security Update for Windows 7 x64
      KB3156019 Security Update for Windows 7 x64

      ************

      3/2016 Turned off IE11 Feature

      ************

      Hidden Updates for my Windows 7 for X64-Based System

      KB3139929 Cumulative IE11 – Get Win10/Ad Server 3/10/16
      KB3148198 Cumulative Security Update for IE11 (Important)
      KB3154070 Cumulative Security Update IE 11

      KB890830 (Win Malacious Tool – Data Transmit)
      KB2952664 (Nagware Win10)
      KB3021917 (Win10 Install Diagnostics)
      KB3035583 (Nagware GWX Update)
      KB3068708 (Telemetry aka KB3022345)
      KB3075249 (Telemetry Consent)
      KB3080149 (Telemetry)
      KB3083324 (Sept 2015, Update Client, Telemetry?)
      KB3083710 (New Update Client)
      KB3092627 (Sept 2015, Questionable)
      KB3102429 Update for Windows 7 for X-64 Based Systems (Azerbaijani Manat and Georgian currency symbols)
      KB3102810 (Nov 2015, Windows Configuration MGr)
      KB3112343 Win 10 Updating
      KB3118401 Run Win 10 Software on older OS
      KB3121255 Fixes Copy file no buffer error
      KB3123862 Win 10 Updating
      KB3133977 Opt: Bitlocker Encryption server failure
      KB3135445 Win 10 Updating
      KB3137061 Opt: Windows Azure VM’s
      KB3138378 Update for Journal.dll binary
      KB3138612 Microsoft Update Client (Optional)
      KB3138901 Opt: Internet service denied for multiple users
      KB3139923 Opt: Windows MSI Repair
      KB3140245 New Registry Key for TLS 1.1 & TLS 1.2
      KB3147071 MS ODBC/MTC or OLE DB Driver for Oracle DB – optional
      KB3148851 Russia Timezone (Important)
      KB3153731 Update for Windows 7 (Azerbaijan Timezone)

    • #1562467

      Here’s the view of all this from Gordon Kelly of FORBES.
      NOTE: I quoted 2 different sections of the article that caught my eye. He is leaning towards MS initially causing the problem even though they knew it would happen and they seem in no rush to fix it.
      As Sudo15 pointed out earlier, there is a fix from ASUS https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1016356/ .
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix#4af2d790395e

      Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem
      Earlier this year Microsoft MSFT warned users that Windows 7 has serious problems. I dismissed its claims as a desperate attempt to shift copies of Windows 10 (and I still do), but now Microsoft has warned of a new serious Windows 7 problem that is very real – even though it makes no sense whatsoever…

      In short: Microsoft has made a seemingly small yet completely bizarre tweak to Windows Update on Windows 7 and confirmed it is crippling many users’ PCs.

      The tweak? It switched the status of Windows 7 update KB3133977 from ‘Optional’ to ‘Recommended’. The bizarre part? Despite acknowledging the problems, Microsoft knew they would occur in advance and it has no plans to do anything about it.
      It all centres around Asus motherboards.

      Now 27 years old, Asus is one of the largest PC component makers and supplies motherboards to many of the world’s biggest PC makers. Recently it enabled Secure Boot in UEFI on all its motherboards. This wasn’t a problem for older PCs because Windows 7 didn’t support Secure Boot, that is until KB3133977 came along in March and enabled it.
      Initially the fallout was small. Asus confirmed the problem, Microsoft confirmed the problem. But the best news was KB3133977 was an optional Windows 7 update so it had to be manually installed to take effect. The solution was simple: just steer clear of KB3133977 (aka do nothing) and you’d be fine.

      Then last month – for some bizarre reason – Microsoft made KB3133977 a ‘Recommended’ update. The result was every user running Windows 7 and default Windows Update settings (the vast majority) would find the update now installed automatically.

      And then everyone with an Asus motherboard was hit.

      As for the bad news? It’s Microsoft’s reaction.

      On the plus side, Microsoft did update the support document for KB3133977 with a warning which states: “After you install update 3133977 on a Windows 7 x64-based system that includes an Asus-based main board, the system does not start”.

      But Microsoft also uses the document an opportunity to promote upgrades to Windows 10:

      Microsoft’s KB3133977 support page now advises users to install Windows 10 to fix their problems.

      Microsoft has also done nothing to modify KB3133977 or release a new patch so users with Asus motherboards don’t run into this problem in the first place. Furthermore, at the time of publishing, KB3133977 remains a ‘Recommended’ in Windows Update for Windows 7.

      Needless to say, conspiracy theorists will have a ball seeing it as yet another new way Microsoft can push users to Windows 10. Especially with upgrade rates slowing in April. This in itself is remarkable given the increasing number of heavy handed and devious ways Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 onto Windows 7 and Windows 8 users.

      Regardless, the message is clear: life is going to become increasingly uncomfortable for Windows 7 users from now on. Whether they like it or not…

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #43338

      If they start charging $119 for Home and $199 for Pro, they can’t shove it on our PC’s without asking. Who would pay after the fact?? Then we could relax and quit fighting the unasked-for upgrades.

      Dream on…..
      Their billion-device goal certainly would not be met in two years, as people will continue to use Win7 & 8.
      Their competition, Mac and Linux, would still be free.
      On iOS and Android devices, people could stop using Cortana/BING (that reports back to MS), the one-thumb keybord (that records your keystrokes for MS use), Office365 (that requires MS login so they can monitor your docs), etc.

      Unless they start knowingly wrecking previous versions of Windows with updates like KB3133977.

      Unless they keep it free so they can force the numbers up to meet the 1B goal.

      My best guess is they can’t afford to charge or they will lose more than they gain.

    • #505499

      This ( KB3133977 ) was an optional update on 4/12/16 and thank God I didn’t install it as all my MB’s are ASUS.
      http://www.infoworld.com/article/3065487/microsoft-windows/recommended-kb-3133977-patch-can-cause-asus-pcs-to-freeze.html

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #44043

      Just got these updates on my Win7SP1x64 laptop.
      WU set to never ck.

      8 important & checked.

      KB3146706 22,0 MB

      KB2952664 4,6 MB

      KB3035583 721 KB – 820 KB Hello Again! Was hidden

      KB3133977 1,1 MB

      KB3137061 72 KB

      KB3138901 269 KB

      KB3147071 20,9 MB

      KB3148851 409 KB

      5 Optional, unchecked not italicized

      MS Silverlight KB3106614

      MSE KB 21310138 (definition 1.217.1832.0

      Win7x64 KB3138378

      Win7x64 KB3139923

      Win7x64 KB3130245

      JF

    • #45999

      I installed KB3139923, KB3137061, KB3133977 yesterday and my computer is now running slow as molasses, as if KB3035583 (Win10 nagware) were back on board! (checked, and it is not installed again). Had hoped these Win7 updates would actually improve something, but they certainly have not improved my mood. Am removing them all, but if they actually do make a good difference, someone pls let me know! Inkydentally, although I’ve hidden the nefarious KB3035583 several times, it does continue to slither into the important updates list now and then. So much for hiding.

    • In reply to: Bad patch lists

      #46300

      Take that back. Found the documentation. All look benign as far related to Win 10.

      KB3133977 (for BitLocker)
      KB3137061 (Windows Azure VMs)
      KB3138901 (Access to Internet is denied because proxy settings are overwritten in Windows 7 SP1 or Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
      KB3139923 (MSI repair doesn’t work when MSI source is installed on an HTTP share in Windows)

    • In reply to: Bad patch lists

      #46299

      Four new updates just hit. I found no documentation for any of them. (Win 7 x64)

      These are regular (non-security); all were optional, unchecked, unitalicized.

      KB3133977
      KB3137061
      KB3138901
      KB3139923

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