Can you speak up, RetiredGeek. :fanfare: :;):

@cbrillow,

I would say that the update experience has been smooth in terms of once it gets going, I have not had to sit there waiting to do something to keep the process moving. :cheers:

I posted the following over on the mozillazine forums:

I am sorry that I tried Windows 10.

[*]After less than a day, I had to do a full restore of my newer desktop because (almost?) all the right-click Start Button menu items stopped working. I received errors that the attendant files could not be found.
[*]Also, the Start Menu power button options also stopped working.
[*]On my newer laptop, several times I started having the right-clicking any of the left side items in File Explorer crash Explorer. (I saw this on some of my other computers, too.)
[*]Sleep and Hiberate did not work as they should have on my laptop either taking minutes or more to run.
[*]After updating my newer laptop to the Anniversary Update, it exhibited a problem that when I began researching it, the first result was posted in 2015! Microsoft hasn’t figured this out yet?
[*]EDIT: I recall now what the problem was after applying the Anniversary Update. When the screen would turn off for no activity on the laptop, it was turning off earlier that the time I had set (off at 5 minutes rather than 15 minutes) AND I would have to re-enter my password to get back to the screen desktop. I did not have my system set with a screen saver let alone requiring a password when reactivating the screen! The kicker was that the first search result was to another user reporting a similar issue in a forum and there was no answer to the inquiry despite being posted in 2015!

Keep in mind that my newer laptop and desktop were purchased with Windows 10 licenses and Windows 7 Pro installed! How could these machines be “incompatible” with Windows 10? :confused:

Also, I downloaded the version before the Anniversary Update (1511?) rather than relying on Windows Update to update my computers.

One issue I may have had was the Intel Management Engine software that recommended NOT using the latest version! Instead, use older versions of this software. How can this be a year after Windows 10 was released as well as considering that Windows 10 should have benefited from the problems that Windows 8, 8.1 and 8.1 Update had and should have been resolved by now? 😡

I got tired of running sfc /scannow–especially when it returned that there were no problems with the system files–and the various iterations of DISM only to have the issue(s) reappear.

As far as I am concerned, Windows 10 is as bad as Windows 8, et al. I am seriously considering for my next computer the purchase of a Mac or giving Linux another try. I really wanted to like Windows 10. It is simply inexcusable that Microsoft considers Windows 10 a worthy product. My experience says it is a sticking piece of sh*t.

My recommendation is if you have any concerns–and, hopefully, you have full backups, disk images in my case–to easily and quickly revert your systems back to Win7.

Maybe foolish. Maybe not.

I decided to give Win10 (1511) another try. So far, so good.

The only issue I have seen is after the computer only being restarted for installations and updates, when I went to shut it down before going to bed, it went close to a minute before the shutdown screen came on screen. It shut down, as expected. The next morning, after I was done with my morning routine–checking email, minimal browsing–it promptly shut down, as expected.

I think I did make some tweaks to the computer’s power setting after switching it to “High Performance”. Before I shut down, I did go to the power settings and reset the “High Performance” settings–I am still using “High Performance”, but at its default settings.

I had also enabled hibernation, if that matters.

Has anyone else had any experiences like this?

I suspect my issue is the utility Toshiba Service Station (TSS).

TSS is supposed to scan the computer and it’s hardware and then check with Toshiba Support for updates to drivers and such.

What was happening on my Win10 system is that TSS kept insisting that I had out-of-date drivers for the computer’s sound and wireless LAN. The sound driver updated as expected. However, the wireless driver downloaded was older than the one installed.

Even after all of this, TSS still showed both needed to be updated rather than the expected removed like older versions of TSS on Win7 systems.

When I had the long pauses before the computer shut down, I had manually started TSS’s Check for Updates. I suspect this may still have been going on in the background when I went to shut the computer down. After uninstalling TSS yesterday, computer promptly entered the shutdown process and was off in less than 30 seconds.

I hope so. :crossfingers:

Spoke too soon. Last night, it took at least 2 minutes from the moment I first clicked on Shutdown before the computer began to shut down. Note: it just sits there, it is not like the spinner comes up immediately when I click on Shutdown.

I will have to explore things further.

Are there some administrative tools that might give me a clue?

Just received an update to iTunes. Of note, the update said in part that it included “support for Windows 10”.

I happened to plug my iPhone into the computer last night and then had the delay before Shutdown started. I’m not connecting my iPhone today, just to see what happens.

Well, AU dropped on my computer last night. So far, I have not seen any issues with the computer and AU.

I do still see the issue with the Start button context (right-click) menu “Shut down” choice taking ~5 minutes before it starts shutting the computer down. So far, at least, I have twice used Start>Power>Shut down and the shutdown process began immediately, as expected.

I had checked Event Viewer prior to AU dropping. I saw something like an attempt to log off at the moment I first clicked on the context menu Shut down and then nothing logged for ~5 minutes when Shutdown finally kicked in. Now, of course, I will have to go back through and see want is being logged.

I’m at work at the moment. I’ll have to get back to you later.

Did not have an opportunity to do this last night. However, I did try several times using only Start>Power>Shut down (on the Start menu, not the context menu) and each time, the computer shut down promptly. I’m going to explore the Windows shell and extensions as was discussed in the August 23 Windows Secrets column.

Interestingly, prior to delving into the Windows shell and extension, I tried at least twice Start button Context Menu Power>Shut down and it has worked as expected. Go figure. :rolleyes:

I had no clue that it was the AU. When prompted that updates were available and I decided to let it go ahead that’s when I realized it was more than just the regular monthly update.

In Win7, I would see that notification screen a lot. It must have been due to the HDD’s in those systems. I have switched them to SSD’s now and even though they are still Win7 for the time being, the shut downs proceed quite promptly even for Intel Core i3 processors. I think it is pretty safe to assume those system’s “old” HDD’s were just getting slower and slower. 😉