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    WSJust Plain Fred
    AskWoody Lounger
    July 14, 2008 at 11:14 am #452420

    Hello, and greetings from the great free state of Tennessee:
    After installing “acronis 11 v 8101” (disc image software) my backup is too large (40GB) for me to do on removable dvd’s (@4.35GB per disc) My C: drive is a Hitachi (372.61GB) unit HDT725040VLA SCSI (small computer system interface) My question is, that in the “big Box ” stores they don’t seem to stock that type (SCSI) . I only know that i do not have a parallel input connector on my hard disc, but have only two small connectors. Anyone have information on what type of hard disc that i should use (have an extra slot (internal) of my HP pavilion) for another disc. Should i stick with Hitachi (If i can get one) or does it really not matter? Regards Plain Fred.

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    • WSKropot68
      AskWoody Lounger
      July 14, 2008 at 11:46 am #1117059

      I use an external 3.5″ 500GB SATA II hard drive connected to a USB slot on my laptop computer for my complete image backup with Acronis TI Home. The HDD is in a Lemel External 3.5″ Drive Enclosure with a USB 2.0 interface.

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    • WSviking33
      AskWoody Lounger
      July 14, 2008 at 12:09 pm #1117063

      Fred,
      1. Are you sure about that model number?
      A search on HITACHI didn’t turn up any results for that model number hard drive.

      2.How old is this machine? SCSI is a rather old and outdated drive type ( particularly for home use, not
      server )

      3. Depending on you machine setup, either IDE or SATA are the more current types, probably IDE, if it is not
      a fairly new model.

      4. Go to HP and search out your exact model and it should tell you what type to look
      for.

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    • WSStuartR
      AskWoody Lounger
      July 14, 2008 at 5:29 pm #1117075

      > i do not have a parallel input connector on my hard disc, but have only two small connectors

      That is almost certainly SATA. Both IDE and SCSI use much larger parallel connectors.

      A google search for HDT725040VLA confirms that this is a SATA drive.

      StuartR

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    • WSbigaldoc
      AskWoody Lounger
      July 14, 2008 at 10:13 pm #1117104

      I’m in John Williams’ camp on this one. Given today’s prices, if you’ve got one or more USB ports you can use, for ease of connectivity I’d go with an external hard drive for backing up. You can get BIG ones for small buck$. Just one example: External USB 2.0 Hard Drive

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      • DaveA
        AskWoody_MVP
        July 15, 2008 at 3:36 am #1117138

        I use the USB external drives all the time.
        Fry’s just had a Seagate FreeAgent GO 250 Gigs for $89.00 US.

        DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
        Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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    • WSviking33
      AskWoody Lounger
      July 15, 2008 at 5:29 am #1117157

      Yet a search for this device found this info. Not from HP or Hitachi.
      A SCSI device with an IDE interface.
      —————————————————–

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      • WSStuartR
        AskWoody Lounger
        July 15, 2008 at 5:49 am #1117162

        You may be right,

        This very tastefully coloured web page shows the detailed configuration of an HP Pavillion PC including
        Hitachi HDT725040VLA SCSI Disk Device (400.09 GB) -- drive 0 894 Megabytes Installed Memory

        But this page shows a Jaguar computer with
        400gb SATA HDD
        [HDT725040VLA]

        StuartR

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      • WSJust Plain Fred
        AskWoody Lounger
        July 15, 2008 at 7:10 am #1117179

        Hello,Bob et-al,
        Thank ya-all for responding. Upon further investigation (with magnifying glass) the Hitachi PN is “oa33664” May 2007 DiskStar 7200Rpm 400GB SATA 3.0 GB/s. My operating system “PC-Doctor” gave me the information on the disk drive, don’t know why it said that it was a “SCSI” When the label says “SATA” If i can get the “Hitachi” unit as StuartR’s link provides, or go with the “big box store brand” SATA? REgards Plain Fred.

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        • WSviking33
          AskWoody Lounger
          July 15, 2008 at 7:59 am #1117192

          Fred,
          Now that you seem to have cleared up the disk type as being SATA, I don’t think you have to stick to a brand. Do some shopping around for the best buy on SATA drives and go for that one. Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor, Hitachi or any other brand would do.

          Lots of good sources for buys on hardware. One of my favorites is NEWEGG
          or DIRECTRON but there are MANY other good ones around. yep
          Good Luck!

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          • WSJust Plain Fred
            AskWoody Lounger
            July 16, 2008 at 12:45 am #1117251

            Bob,
            Just wanted to update. I contacted HP and talked to a “sales rep” are ya sitting down? A new Hitachi drive costs $338.00 plus shipping!
            Guess it’s like trying to get parts from the local new car dealer’s “parts department” (full list price) Thanks everyone for all the “links”and info. I’ll post back when this episode of my “computer saga” has more information. Regards Fred.

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            • WSviking33
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 16, 2008 at 8:33 am #1117329

              Fred,
              That sure sounds like a total ripoff to me. What is so unique about this HP system? It isn’t a laptop is it? Does it have different mountings or plug arrangements?

              I would try to check with one of the major HD manufacturers ( like Western Digital ) and give them your HP make and model number and see if they can advise you about compatibility.

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            • WSJust Plain Fred
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 16, 2008 at 12:07 pm #1117377

              Bob, Hello
              Your correct “Rip off” indeed! I used the “Directron” link and found a Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB 3.5″ 7200rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s for $72.00+ shipping, in the same series as my standard HP desk top. I’ll post back and let everyone (who’s interested) know how it went, (after the install) Regards plain Fred.

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          • WSJust Plain Fred
            AskWoody Lounger
            July 23, 2008 at 1:04 am #1118125

            Bob,et-al
            Hello, just wanted to update. I received the “hitachi 500 Gb Sata” hard drive from “Directron”. After reviewing “HP’s” website how to install a new hard drive video (for my PC pavillion desk top) the installation went without any problems.The Acronis true image v11 has an install “new hard drive set up wizard” , That went well also. I then was able to perform (on the new hard drive) a “full image backup” with out any errors or problems. Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions, and for your advice. Regards Plain Fred

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            • WSviking33
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 23, 2008 at 2:36 am #1118142

              That’s great, Fred.
              Sure beats HP solution!
              Happy computing!
              compute bravo

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            • WSbigaldoc
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 23, 2008 at 7:27 am #1118194

              So Fred, I’m not only the curious type but also a little confused by your wording in not only the original post, but this one as well. Did you replace your original C: drive with this new 500 gig drive? Or, are you using the new drive as a backup destination for TI images? Lordy, it’s hard to visualize 500 gig drives! My second drive is 260 gig (where I have Vista) and it took forever to format that puppy. You must’ve gone out to dinner while that 500 gig’er did its thing, huh?

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            • WSJust Plain Fred
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 23, 2008 at 7:57 am #1118200

              Big Al,
              Hello,and sorry for the confusion. I added the 500Gb hard drive so that i wouldn’t have my “Full image back up” on my “C” drive, just in case of failure. My desk top “HP Pavillion” had an extra slot in the hard disk cage, that’s why i went with an internal hard drive. As far as the formating Acronis handled that with their “new hard disk installation wizard” program. (part of true image v11) All of my end was to tell the “wizard” how large to make the “acronis secure zone” (200 Gb) and the rest i can use for data storage ,whatever. The whole process didn’t seem to take long at all. maybe 30 minutes, plus another 30 or so for the back up. During my hunting for hard drives, i saw some, that were 1Tb. (Awesome!) hope that clears up your questions. Regards Plain Fred

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            • WSbigaldoc
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 23, 2008 at 8:15 am #1118203

              Thanks fer the lo-down, Fred. It does clear it up, except that I have something fer ya to ponder. I don’t think you should be using Acronis’ secure zone on a separate drive that you use for backup, as a matter of fact I thought that the secure zone ONLY worked if you were backing up to the SAME drive as the partition you’re backing up. (I never even tried secure zone when I was running TI.)

              In any case, if you’ve got the new drive partitioned to 200 gig for backups and the rest for general use, you should just need to remove the secure zone and treat it the same way I do my external USB drives. Anyway, good luck with it…

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            • WSJust Plain Fred
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 23, 2008 at 11:50 am #1118228

              Big Al,
              Hello, i’m not sure this is the correct forum to post this reply but, here goes. According to the instructions in the acronis true image v11 8101 , the “secure zone is where you want to have the “back up”, not on drive “C”. (in case of hard drive failure) The “secure zone ” is not accessible to the normal operating system, so the “image is secure ” from data corruption. To view it (the image) you must “mount the image ” then it becomes visible, and can be accessed. The ” safe zone” is also where you use the “try & decide” feature to download trial software. (to be saved or discarded at your choice) As i am novice at using TI, and had none of my questions answered (from acronis) my understanding of this software is limited. I know nothing of previous editions so you may be correct. hope this helps ,Regards Plain Fred.

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            • WSbigaldoc
              AskWoody Lounger
              July 23, 2008 at 10:54 pm #1118266

              You’re right that I’ve derailed the thread with my question and if it seems necessary, I can move the last 4 or 5 posts to the “Backup” forum, but I don’t think that’s needed (yet). gramps I know this is quite old, but I don’t think things have changed too much with Acronis’ TI since late-2006: post 608,848 thread.

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