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    #2272408

    This has been a bit of a peeve of mine for ages.

    I have had an MP3 player for years. Different ones, for sure — my first was 256Mb and I’ve gone through Creative, Sandisk and now…

    So my main thing these days is playlists. And not static ones either. Let me explain.

    I can’t keep up to date with my podcasts. So I’m always running a bit behind the curve, so I download (via an RSS reader — QuiteRSS, if you care, but it’s not relevant) the podcasts I might want to listen to into a folder on my PC, then (using my favourite file manager, XYplorer) I transfer podcasts in date order (ie oldest first) to my player, having first deleted the ones I’ve listened to on the latter AND (this is the crucial bit) remove the entries for the listened to podcasts from the M3U8 playlist using a text editor. Oh, and as XYplorer has a neat facility for copying the filenames of all selected files to the clipboard, the new bunch get added to the end of the podcasts playlist.

    So an MP3 player has to be able to do a couple of things to be able to support this (perhaps slightly idiosyncratic) way of working. First, it has to be able to resume from where it left off playing; second, it has to be able to support text-editable playlists as managing playlists on the player is usually extremely tedious, if it’s possible at all.

    And nobody wants MP3 players any more, so the market is mostly odd brands with variants of mostly similar firmware and user experiences.

    My current player is an AGPtEK device. It’s idiosyncratic but it works for me, just about. What it’s not good at is maintaining a database — so although it has 16Gb internal storage and theoretically supports an additional 64Gb addon storage, the sorts of things I’ve got used to being able to do in previous years — navigating to artist, then album, then play an album in track order — it ONLY does (a) if I’m navigating the drive on which the relevant album is, and (b) if I’ve built a playlist for the album myself. With a maximum of 80Gb storage, it ought to be a portable jukebox but the amount of work to get to that point from where I am (a handful of playlists plus my podcasts setup) is potentially prohibitive.

    Anyone following this is probably wondering why I don’t just use VLC on my smartphone. I’d rather not, basically — my phone is quite capable of it but I can’t throw that much storage at it (I don’t have the budget for a dual-SIM phone that additionally supports something like a 128Gb SD card) and, well, I don’t like VLC enough for all sorts of — mostly ergonomic — reasons.

    My ideal would be a new player that supports Rockbox. That looks like a non-starter right now. (The Sandisk Sansa devices that supported Rockbox were brilliant but no longer available except secondhand and replacing batteries — which inevitably die, eventually — is beyond my levels of technical competence.)

    So, I guess the point of all this is: am I really the last enthusiastic user of standalone MP3 players? And if I’m not, does anyone have any recommendations of good players with decent storage capabilities, resume from the last point played and easy-to-edit playlists?

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    • #2272414

      So, I guess the point of all this is: am I really the last enthusiastic user of standalone MP3 players? And if I’m not, does anyone have any recommendations of good players with decent storage capabilities, resume from the last point played and easy-to-edit playlists?

      Try looking at the iPod.

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      So, I guess the point of all this is: am I really the last enthusiastic user of standalone MP3 players? And if I’m not, does anyone have any recommendations of good players with decent storage capabilities, resume from the last point played and easy-to-edit playlists?

      Try looking at the iPod.

      My wife has an ipod. I dislike iTunes; MediaMonkey seems to be able to work with it but it feels slightly arms’ length, to me, and I’m notionally opposed to Apple on general principles, but you’re right, it’s unreasonable to assume that it won’t work for me.

      I’ll experiment, while she’s not looking.

    • #2272426

      Do you have a smart phone? They all play audio files and you can get apps to do it differently.

      cheers, Paul

    • #2272432

      Do you have a smart phone? They all play audio files and you can get apps to do it differently.

      I do, but compared to the 80Gb storage I have on the player I have, the storage on my phone looks a bit, well, inadequate. And as I think I said in my original diatribe, I can’t add storage without losing a SIM. So my options are: use a different smartphone as an MP3 player, which means carrying two phones, or put the second SIM in another phone which, er, means carrying two phones.

      My MP3 player is a quarter the size of my phone and if it’s not in use, the battery isn’t running down which effectively means it can go many days between charges.

      I’m all for multi-function devices when they perform all the functions effectively but there’s a lot to be said for devices that do one thing well. I think we’ve sacrificed a lot of functionality in the name of … hang on, I think I need to get off my soapbox again. 🙂

    • #2272501

      I do not like itunes. Bought nano ipod 5th gen many years ago and found how much I dislike itunes. drag and drop mp3’s and make a few playlists Now I have an Iphone and find I am using itunes again.I have 64 gb  iphone 11 and will likely be getting an external device if storage becomes an issue. NO CLOUD EVER Maybe good news is apple is breaking itunes up into different modules(for lack of a better word). I’ll check out the mediaMonkey referenced–is it free? Also How many tunes do you have?? I’m almost 70 and started music collection at age 14. I still dont put that many songs on my ipod. 64 gb I think…it will likely die soon as the battery is SOLDERED in and cannot be replaced grrrrrrr.  How many songs do you listen to in a week only one time? I suspect you wouldn’t get thru 80 gb in that week. Just my opinion.

    • #2272546

      How many songs do you listen to in a week only one time? I suspect you wouldn’t get thru 80 gb in that week.

      Oh, definitely not. But if I’m in the car and I want to stop working through my podcasts for a while and switch to music, it’s kind of good to have a wide choice. 🙂

      I’ve been chasing the ambition of having everything I might want available all the time for years. Never made it, of course, and probably never will…

      I think I’m chasing after something I can’t have without making some sort of compromise — mostly to my way of working with this stuff.

      • #2272951

        I’ve been chasing the ambition of having everything I might want available all the time for years. Never made it, of course, and probably never will…

        I agree with you oblivion, we’re in the second decade of the 21st century, although you’d hardly know it.  The world needs more people like you with ambitious expectations.  I know it’s disappointing, but keep on trying!

        Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
    • #2272971

      I think I’m chasing after something I can’t have without making some sort of compromise

      You don’t have to compromise. Put everything you want on a portable 256MB-4TB SSD drive, like Samsung’s T7 (I have T5 with 512GB of audio/video attached to my multimedia system in my car).

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