On a test rig for Windows 7 I installed KB3177467 V2 manually from Ghacks MS Catalog link and then I installed KB4462915 Group-B October update.

After a reboot I was offered KB3177467 again which I installed and then was offered some older updates now everything seems fine.

So for Group B installers it seems we must wait for KB3177467 V2 to be offered.

OCTOBER UPDATES —

2018-10-10 — Offered this morning by Microsoft.KB4462923 — Security Quality Monthly rollup for win 7
2018-10-11 — KB4462923 has been removed ( an Error 0x8000FFFaparently occurs on install )
and
KB4457144 — 2018-09 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64 based systems offered in its place..

Apparently the error is caused by a lack of KB3177467, (the last Servicing Stack Update for Windows 7) offered as an optional update in October 2016
I have checked all machines and KB3177467, (the last Servicing Stack Update for Windows 7) was installed in October 2016
Apparently a v2 of KB3177467 has been released but not yer offered to me.

It is unclear whether the v2 of KB3177467 is required or whether the original (now called v1) will be adequate.

These are my notes for October 2018 — win 7 pro — It is unclear what I should do as KB4462923 is not being offered on any of my machines.

Did you install any of the Win10 cumulative updates – specifically yesterday’s 1803 CU?

Dear Patch Lady , Any idea when the Defcon Level will change? We use it as a LAW before applying patches

Group A, Win7Pro-64_SP1, Intel Ivy Bridge (dual core) processor here.

Despite Susan’s feedback (thank you Susan!), for now I’ll wait and refrain from installing the Monthly Rollup (KB4462923) update.

Earlier this week I did a few little, limited beta testing experiments with my updated system and the other October’s updates: had no issues with the Security Only (KB4462915) update (good news for Group B) but after installing the IE Cumulative Update (KB4462949) I experienced a few random hang-ups and system freezes, apparently related with the standard Common Control dialogs – for e.g. a consistent trigger was opening IE and attempting to use the “Save As” dialog from a webpage. Maybe it was just coincidence, but removing KB4462949 fixed that.

Thus, since we’re at DEFCON-2 I’ll stick, for now, with what Woody and the MVP’s recommend: WAIT.

2 days ago I approved all the October patches for IE, .Net, SW Removal tool, Office 2013 open license and not running into any issues. I still have not approved the 2 October OS updates for Windows 7. All of our Windows 10 systems are on 1803. I installed the original October 1803 update on my pc but never released it. Just as I was considering pushing it, lo and behold a new October update is out and the previous update has been superseded. I just installed it on my pc but will not be pushing that as it’s way too early for that.

Update: I decided to also release KB3177467 v2 to windows 7 systems in order to begin to be able to move forward with those systems.

I HID 2 Optional and Installed Office ’10 Updates, MSRT, and the 4.7.2 Net Framewk Update with No Issues.

With V1 Inst’d Oct ’16 – the V2 KB3177467 from the Catalog dated 10-10-18 had produced “Already Installed”, SO the Real KB3177467 DID appear after the Re-Start from the mentioned Updates. No Re-Start requested after install. The KB4462923 Monthly Sec Rollup THEN appeared on the next Check For as advertised and Inst’d without issue.

PKCano wrote:

Can you verify whether KB4462923 (Oct Monthly Rollup) was a CHECKED or an UNCHECKED important update?

It was — UN-chk’d …. at first.

Any recommendations for Office patches on Windows 7?

Thanks.

PKCano wrote:

Can you verify whether KB4462923 (Oct Monthly Rollup) was a CHECKED or an UNCHECKED important update?

PKCano

I just did an windows update check.
KB4462923 is unchecked and listed as the only important update.

I have 2 optional updates.
I do have the v1 of the service stack update downloaded after I installed a new hard drive. Nov. 2017 is the date installed.

So, just to clarify, in order to get the v2 I have to hide updates and it will then appear.
I’m then suppose to install v2 and then the rollup will show up checked???

I’m adding a snip it of my windows update result.

Dell Inspiron 660 (new hard drive installed and Windows 7 reloaded Nov. 2017)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP 1 GROUP A
Processor: Intel i3-3240 (ivy bridge 3rd generation)
chipset Intel (R) 7 series/C216
chipset family SATA AHCI Controller -1 E02
NIC Realtek PCLE GBE Family Controller
MSE antivirus
Chrome browser

Hide the updates which you see listed in Windows Update. After doing so, KB3177467 v2 will then show up in Windows Update. Since you have v1 installed, you will not have to reboot after installing v2. Once v2 is installed, check for updates again. Now you should be offered the other new updates

Thank you for your reply GoneToPlaid — I did as you said and hid 2018-09 — KB4457144.

2018-08-15 — KB 4343900 was then presented for installation.

No sign of 2018-10-11 — KB4462923 or KB3177467

Hiding 2018-08-15 — KB 4343900  only brought me back to 2018-09 — KB4457144 offered for installation.

All my computers are up to date as of December 2017 and KB3177467 is

installed on all of them as of October 2016.

The longer this ongoing MS updating problem continues, the more convinced I have become that MS updates are a far bigger threat to my computers than malware, viruses, etc which both my ISP and each of my computers have working detection programs installed — that work.

Where do I go from here?????

Group A, Win 7, x64, Home Premium. First, on October 14th, I successfully installed all October patches except SSU – V2 (was not offered at that time) and the October monthly rollup (offered as important, yet unchecked). However, as I had never installed KB3172605 back in 2016, I had also decided to install that update on October 14th as well (successfully) based on one of the forum articles posted here. My hunch is that the installation of KB3172605 caused WU to hang upon restart, being stuck on the “Preparing to…” message. However, powering off and rebooting did confirm successful installation of KB3172605 as well as all of the other October updates cited above.

Today, I first hid the unchecked October monthly rollup and was offered SSU – V2. This installation was successful and marked as a security update in “View Installed Updates”. Even though no reboot was required by WU, after I unhid the October monthly rollup and WU re-checked for updates, the October monthly rollup was still marked unchecked. So I decided to reboot before attempting the installation of the October monthly rollup.

Upon reboot, my computer got stuck again on the “Preparing to…” message (even though in theory the reboot was not required). Upon this hard reboot after the installation of SSU – V2, NOW the October monthly rollup was offered as important AND checked. However, I first decided to uninstall KB3172605 – successfully – believing that doing so would allow my computer to reboot normally after my subsequent installation of the October monthly rollup. The good news is that the checked monthly rollup installed successfully.

However, my computer was still stuck on the “Preparing to…” message. However, after one final hard reboot, the computer finally displayed the message showing the percentage status of the update configuration, powered itself off, rebooted itself, and finished the update configuration again showing the update percentage status as if after a normal reboot after installing critical updates.

In addition to the October monthly rollup KB4462923 showing as successfully installed upon reboot, WU also displayed the “culprit” KB3172605 as optional – which of course I hid!

I would appreciate if anyone had information as to whether my recent installation of KB3172605 two weeks ago was the cause of WU suddenly failing to restart and reboot normally after installing updates.

It also appears that the uninstall of KB3172605 may have slowed down the time it takes for WU to check for updates. After the October monthly rollup installed successfully, I checked for updates one more time and I aborted the process after it failed to complete after 20 minutes. I don’t know if such a wait time is normal when all updates have been installed and the update queue is empty. My understanding was that the time required to check for updates was resolved by Microsoft on their end rather than being resolved by WU updates that were introduced back in 2016. My hope is that the belated installation and subsequent uninstall of KB3172605 did not inadvertently slow down the WU process on my computer.

I have just gone through Susan`s Master Patch List.

I am wondering whats happened with the 2018-10  Windows 7 monthly quality roll-up being  ( KB4462927 ) as on my computer it is still listed as Preview in Optional in AU.

I did install KB3177467 V2 Service Stack which was the only one i had listed as Important.

Possible has not been pushed through in AU as Important due to Date differences between AU and USA ???

I downloaded and installed KB3177467 V2 from the Windows Update Catalog, but the 2018-10 Monthly Rollup KB4462923
did not show up in Windows Update. I did not hide the update.

I also download KB4462923 from the Windows Update Catalog, should I install it or wait?

Win7 Pro x64.